Thornblade 30 day, but not actually large enough to hold everyone?

GunemCleric · August 2014

So I guess I will point out the obvious. Before yesterday we had 2 campaigns that could be completely full on NA, Dawn Breaker and Wabba. Today we have 1 campaign that is similar to those in having a long duration. Not sure about everyone else, but my captains unanimously agreed Thornblade because it was the long campaign. The short camps were not interesting before and not today, it looks like there is general agreement as Thornblade seems to go back and forth between locked and unlocked for DC.

Now yesterday 2 camps possibly locked, today 1 camp (already locked) that does not appear to be able to handle 2x people.

Is this the case? Are we forced to play the short camps if we want to play or is there a possibility that the performance has been increased and caps will be extended?

Lowbei · August 2014

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Sharee · August 2014

Let's wait and see. For example the 2 locked campaigns had a fair share of non-vet players in them - those will presumably move to non-vet campaign now. Also i know some vets prefer the vet-only campaign. Might not be as bad(but i do expect longer queues on thornblade then usual)

madangrypally · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Agree.

Only reason ill play on Thornblade is to kill a few select zerg guilds and that will be on an alt that is not my normal alliance.

GFBStarWars · August 2014

im going to the "future" emperor farming campaign to avoid emperor farming

demonlkojipub19_ESO · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

GunemCleric · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

What does long campaign have to do with Zerg? And my guild is not a zerg guild, but i know you cannot help making those kind of statements...

I personally want to fight in a long term camp where I can work with other guilds and have goals and strategy. I like to get to know other people in other guilds, but you would not know anything about that i suppose you cannot have many friends with the posts you make

Lowbei · August 2014

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

There are those who know they can get emp easily and stay up there for a long time. Happened on Wabba and it will happen on thornblade. For 30 days no one will be able to catch them unless they let them.

Lowbei · August 2014

... exactly... the same 3 jobless people...

anyone who has a job/life who seeks to acquire the title for themselves, would use the shorter campaigns, like i said.

Maulkin · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

Lowbei · August 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

ThyIronFist · August 2014

All of the impulse zergballs will go there and the server will go kaput. The meltdown will be so great that it will make Chernobyl look like nothing.

This needs serious fixing. It's hilarious to see 20+ man zergballs going around spamming certain skills. They should change PvP to MvP.

Mongloids versus Players

Maulkin · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

Lowbei · August 2014

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

lol ill explain this more slowly, with shorter words...

on weekly campaigns, once a week you will have one day where everyone is at zero, and everyone has the chance that afternoon to play well and get it... as opposed to long campaigns where if you werent on and playing hard the first day, you have no chance till it ends in the distant future.

reread this until it sinks in, you are welcome.

krim · August 2014

They really need some BGs or arenas for some of you folks who still dont get cyrodiil.

Maulkin · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

lol ill explain this more slowly, with shorter words...

on weekly campaigns, once a week you will have one day where everyone is at zero, and everyone has the chance that afternoon to play well and get it... as opposed to long campaigns where if you werent on and playing hard the first day, you have no chance till it ends in the distant future.

reread this until it sinks in, you are welcome.

Oh, cause getting in there the second the campaign opens and hoping to get emperor in the first couple of hrs before everyone else logs in, is of course a clear indication you're a fantastic player and won that Emperorship on merit. While the dude that plays 10 hrs a day is a bad player who's only higher than you in the rankings because he plays more. Sure, I see your agenda...

And never mind the fact that your emperorship will probably not last past that 1st day when you go to work the morning.

The fact that the vast majority of players/guilds prefer the longer campaigns (evidence in this thread and in the unpopularity of Celarus) should tell you all you need to know. You're in the minority, cause most people don't like exactly what you intend to practice

Lowbei · August 2014

i like cyrodiil to farm ap, but want arenas for competition.

GunemCleric · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

lol ill explain this more slowly, with shorter words...

on weekly campaigns, once a week you will have one day where everyone is at zero, and everyone has the chance that afternoon to play well and get it... as opposed to long campaigns where if you werent on and playing hard the first day, you have no chance till it ends in the distant future.

reread this until it sinks in, you are welcome.

Let me see if I get this...you say we should jump on the shorter camps because we can really play hard for one day and somehow have a chance at Emp after 7|14 days. Where @demonlkojipub19_ESO‌ is saying you can play normal (maybe missing he first day) and you will probably make fairly high on leader board if you are good.

So your way is to play 24 hours and somehow hang on to it, but not necessary to be good at all. Of course you cannot make AP as a Zerg, which was your original argument. In other words you just want Emp and you have probably never had it...

Or you can play in a long term campaign and get on the leaderboard via defending and actually playing well, and i might add that it would be fun and you get to know people and guilds. I personally do not care about Emp as long as it is not being farmed and I like the game not trying for a now completely soiled title and few ticks power, though I take special pleasure in killing former emps.

joshisanonymous · August 2014

Short campaigns are too frivolous. I mean, the map doesn't reset at least, but points mean next to nothing and the emperor title isn't very exclusive at all. I don't care if the emperor is someone who can afford to be home all day every day because I don't care about the title either way, but it feels meaningless to see a new emperor every 7 days or less. And then there's the points competition between factions. If your side is losing after the first day, it's real easy for everyone to just go PvE for 6 days instead of trying to fight back and reorganize.

Basically, the longer campaign allows time for strategies to evolve and for politics to become involved. It's like the difference between playing a game of Risk and playing a game of checkers.

But I'm sure glad that vet-only campaign exists if that's where all the 1337s like Lowbei are going. I won't miss playing with/against those types, and I'm sure there will still be a good number of good players who aren't jackasses and want to play the long campaign for reasons like those I've mentioned. That's the purpose of multiple rulesets to begin with.

Lowbei · August 2014

... except that hes incorrect, because those 3 without jobs will be at the top by far and you wont get anywhere close, as was proven on wabba.

and no, i never said anything about 24 hours, as i can make the 50k required in about an hour.

it would take an hour or two of good playing to become emp, once a week.

GunemCleric · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

... except that hes incorrect, because those 3 without jobs will be at the top by far and you wont get anywhere close, as was proven on wabba.

and no, i never said anything about 24 hours, as i can make the 50k required in about an hour.

it would take an hour or two of good playing to become emp, once a week.

Ah, that is the difference, you want Emp. I do not. i want to play the game with people and do not care who Emp is except when it is held by the opposing Alliances.

I love the real fight of AvAvA all competing for the ring. I am not worried about Zergs as Zerg balls have been breakable for a long time (amazing what 2-3 well placed volcanic runes will do to a zergball and some meat catapults make it stick if you have time, add in some negate and a pinch of fire for added fun) .

Of course I would have to join the campaign to be able to play, which back to my original point. Are really stuck with one (already locked) long-term campaign? Or are they going to boost the performance and raise the cap?

Lowbei · August 2014

lol i never claimed to want emp, i really dont care about it. i was simply explaining that it will be easier to get it on a shorter campaign. perhaps you should reread the thread.

GunemCleric · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

lol i never claimed to want emp, i really dont care about it. i was simply explaining that it will be easier to get it on a shorter campaign. perhaps you should reread the thread.

Perhaps you should read the original post, because there was nothing there about getting Emp or short campaigns being better, you are the one saying it would be easier...

Lowbei · August 2014

GunemCleric wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

lol i never claimed to want emp, i really dont care about it. i was simply explaining that it will be easier to get it on a shorter campaign. perhaps you should reread the thread.

Perhaps you should read the original post, because there was nothing there about getting Emp or short campaigns being better, you are the one saying it would be easier...

i wasnt responding to the original post, i was responding to demonlkojipub. again, you should reread the thread so you are less confused about the conversation, or stop complaining about the conversation.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · August 2014

GunemCleric wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

lol ill explain this more slowly, with shorter words...

on weekly campaigns, once a week you will have one day where everyone is at zero, and everyone has the chance that afternoon to play well and get it... as opposed to long campaigns where if you werent on and playing hard the first day, you have no chance till it ends in the distant future.

reread this until it sinks in, you are welcome.

Let me see if I get this...you say we should jump on the shorter camps because we can really play hard for one day and somehow have a chance at Emp after 7|14 days. Where @demonlkojipub19_ESO‌ is saying you can play normal (maybe missing he first day) and you will probably make fairly high on leader board if you are good.

So your way is to play 24 hours and somehow hang on to it, but not necessary to be good at all. Of course you cannot make AP as a Zerg, which was your original argument. In other words you just want Emp and you have probably never had it...

Or you can play in a long term campaign and get on the leaderboard via defending and actually playing well, and i might add that it would be fun and you get to know people and guilds. I personally do not care about Emp as long as it is not being farmed and I like the game not trying for a now completely soiled title and few ticks power, though I take special pleasure in killing former emps.

How bout you just not start making *** assumptions about people.

Or how about I join in. Only losers who want to farm their lowbies buddies and zerg ball went to thornblade.

GunemCleric · August 2014

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

GunemCleric wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

Because some people want to have emp and the points to be emp for as long as possible.

The all levels part probably has a bit to do with it as well. Cant get your lvl 10 alt in to sabatage or listen in in the vet-only server. gotta actually level it up

anyone with half a brain who wants to try for emp, would be on the shortest campaign possible. so that once a week when that campaign resets, they have the chance to play very hard that ONE day, and get it, with another chance next week if they fail. as opposed to a long campaign where after a few days, the only ones with emp are the same 3 jobless people who live in their parents basement.

The major reason people want the longer campaigns is that it allows the good players to rise and stay to the top. You won't be knocked off the top 10 just for not playing 1 day and your points won't reset every week.

It's like the league in any sport. Would you be interested in NBA or Football or whatever you watch, if the league ended every month and there was a new champion? Would there be any value in being the champion after such a short competition?

Also, a lot of the players of different factions got to know each other and got talking through in-game guilds and this forum in part because they could see the other players in the rankings. It was a positive thing.

oh wait, i get it now, you are confused into thinking that time invested = skill.

just because someone has no job and plays 24/7, doesnt make them "good". the result is the same 3 people (one per realm) holding the title the entire time, despite their lack of skill.

i have seen the top leaderboard groups get crushed by low ranked skilled players, proving this.

thus, shorter campaigns are more favorable to anyone who seeks to acquire the title, like i said.

Oh wait, I confused you with someone that makes sense. My bad...

WTF are you talking about? If you have a job you'll still be able to play less than the student (for example) who doesn't. Weekly or Monthly or Yearly campaign won't change that.

If anything because of the short duration of the campaign the difference will be even more pronounced. The longer the duration of the campaign the more the AP/hour accumulation matters over time. Because like I said that 1 day you did or didn't play does not matter so much.

Do I need to explain to you how time works?

lol ill explain this more slowly, with shorter words...

on weekly campaigns, once a week you will have one day where everyone is at zero, and everyone has the chance that afternoon to play well and get it... as opposed to long campaigns where if you werent on and playing hard the first day, you have no chance till it ends in the distant future.

reread this until it sinks in, you are welcome.

Let me see if I get this...you say we should jump on the shorter camps because we can really play hard for one day and somehow have a chance at Emp after 7|14 days. Where @demonlkojipub19_ESO‌ is saying you can play normal (maybe missing he first day) and you will probably make fairly high on leader board if you are good.

So your way is to play 24 hours and somehow hang on to it, but not necessary to be good at all. Of course you cannot make AP as a Zerg, which was your original argument. In other words you just want Emp and you have probably never had it...

Or you can play in a long term campaign and get on the leaderboard via defending and actually playing well, and i might add that it would be fun and you get to know people and guilds. I personally do not care about Emp as long as it is not being farmed and I like the game not trying for a now completely soiled title and few ticks power, though I take special pleasure in killing former emps.

How bout you just not start making *** assumptions about people.

Or how about I join in. Only losers who want to farm their lowbies buddies and zerg ball went to thornblade.

holy crap, my bad I referenced the wrong person. I meant to ref one of the people who made intelligent remarks, namely @mike.gaziotisb16_ESO not ... um ... you.

hammer_fella · August 2014

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

LOL

I poked my head into Bow of Shadows for a moment today to see what it was all about. There wasn't a spot of yellow or blue on the entire map. Sure sounds competitive to me.

Tintinabula · August 2014

hammer_fella wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

LOL

I poked my head into Bow of Shadows for a moment today to see what it was all about. There wasn't a spot of yellow or blue on the entire map. Sure sounds competitive to me.

Im EP and I would never stay on a campaign that's dominated like that.(even by my own side.)

Columba · August 2014

Zerging well takes a lot more skill than you think, lol!

Seriously, it's humorous how some people constantly whine about the zergs.

Lowbei · August 2014

hammer_fella wrote: »

Lowbei wrote: »

... i dont know why these zergers want extremely long campaigns, and even they dont seem to have an answer other than "my leaders told me to" lol

competition is on vet only

new players are on non vet only

the other 3 are for zergers

LOL

I poked my head into Bow of Shadows for a moment today to see what it was all about. There wasn't a spot of yellow or blue on the entire map. Sure sounds competitive to me.

im not saying that there is... im saying that compared to all the other campaigns, theres a better chance at finding a good competitive fight on that server.

whether its currently being zerged by one faction, isnt really a factor since that can change (and quickly) and the ruleset cannot.