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Why are the vet/non-vet campaigns hidden?
Attorneyatlawl
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I've seen several people in zone chat ask why there are only 3 campaigns and even after being told there are 5, still not get that they're hidden under an unintuitive and unassuming title of "Special Events". The veteran only/non-veteran campaigns are pretty much hidden at first glance and really all campaigns should be in the same tab and list. Just an immediately obvious problem with the new setup... I had noticed it on PTS but figured it was for testing only and would be revised in 1.3.3. 
-First-Wave Closed Beta Tester of the Psijic Order, aka the 0.016 percent.
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-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.
Exploits suck. Don't blame just the game, blame the players abusing them!
-Playing since July 2013, back when we had a killspam channel in Cyrodiil and the lands of Tamriel were roamed by dinosaurs.
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-In-game mains abound with "Nerf" in their name. As I am asked occasionally, I do not play on anything but the PC NA Megaserver at this time.
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GFBStarWars✭✭✭Like the old celarus campaign, if only people had 2 eyes and one hand to click the mouse and look around before screaming...3 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭GFBStarWars wrote: »Like the old celarus campaign, if only people had 2 eyes and one hand to click the mouse and look around before screaming...
when we have obvious bugs, its best to focus on the problem and not the ones pointing out the problem.
all campaigns should be on one tab.2 -
GFBStarWars✭✭✭Celarus was on that tab before and player found it, don't see the problem, there are important bugs that need a fix, this is not even an issue1
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Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭GFBStarWars wrote: »Celarus was on that tab before and player found it, don't see the problem, there are important bugs that need a fix, this is not even an issue
... all campaigns should be on one tab. its really not up for debate, as it really doesnt matter how big a bug is. a bug is a bug.Edited by Lowbei on August 4, 2014 9:32PM2 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭They are under special event because they have special rules: Vet and non-vet.0 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭so we have 5 total campaigns, on two different tabs, because you feel that vet/nonvet was so complex that it requires a special tab?
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GFBStarWars✭✭✭Because the 3 campaign have the normal rule just a variation of time, the other 2 have a different rule set,being one is only vr and the other only non vr.2
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Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭so you feel that this ruleset of "vet/nonvet" is so complex that the regular alliance war tab couldnt handle it. gotcha
Edited by Lowbei on August 4, 2014 9:58PM1 -
Cody✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭atm they are pretty empty. the vet only one is totally dominated by EP. no resistance whatsoever:( I hope more people come0 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Regardless, they put them under there because of the rulesets Vet only and non-vet only, like the last 14 day server was considered special so thats where they put it.
All you have to do is be aware of whats on your UI window...
If they come up with a "ranged weapons only" or "no light armor" campaign or whatever they'll put it there too. You wouldn't want to accidently home to it thinking its normal would you? People clearly dont want to read whats on their screen so someone would end up doing it if they lump them all together.1 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭...you just invalidated your own argument by noting that celarus was on the special tab because of its duration, after you argued that the special tab is for rulesets.
and again, theres no reason they shouldnt all be on one tab. theres room for the info on the tab, and no reason to make it more complicated by splitting them up.0 -
GFBStarWars✭✭✭...you just invalidated your own argument by noting that celarus was on the special tab because of its duration, after you argued that the special tab is for rulesets.
and again, theres no reason they shouldnt all be on one tab. theres room for the info on the tab, and no reason to make it more complicated by splitting them up.
before all the campaign ha a 3 month duration so celarus with its 2 week was "special"1 -
demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭...you just invalidated your own argument by noting that celarus was on the special tab because of its duration, after you argued that the special tab is for rulesets.
and again, theres no reason they shouldnt all be on one tab. theres room for the info on the tab, and no reason to make it more complicated by splitting them up.
I said it was considered special, and thats why they put it there. 14 days was not normal duration, it was special duration. Vet and non-vet are considered special and not normal, thats why they are under the special drop down instead of the normal drop down.0 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭it seems that the point zooms right over your head...
"special" is a relative term that is unnecessary. in fact it takes less letters to describe "vet" or "non vet" than it does to describe it as "special"
theres room on the one tab for all campaigns, with their rulesets.Edited by Lowbei on August 4, 2014 10:13PM0 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »
by that logic, each campaign should have its own special tab, because they have different settings...
... riiight.
its not necessary, and they will soon remake the server tab to contain all info, rather than have a second tab.1 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭wow, one extra click, really?
by that logic, why not just add a useless extra screen to the load for you to click thru. who cares right, its just one click.
... and again, i really dont care, its not a big deal to me, its the principle of the thing.
zos will remove the special event tab and add details to the normal tab0 -
liquid_wolf✭✭✭✭Lowbei - Your logic is sound, as well as your reasoning.
The developers still did what they wanted to do, and most players really don't have a problem with it.
So two tabs. Special rules being Vet/Non-Vet.
We will get it, and adapt to it. As far as things that need fixing, no one thought it was important enough to comment on in test servers, and people are not sending them reports about it.Edited by liquid_wolf on August 4, 2014 10:43PM0 -
MonkeyAssassin24✭✭✭Are people really so inept that they can't find a button that opens a menu to show two other campaigns?? Holy s***...I just...this is a thing that needed a whole thread?SeltzerDuke wrote: »This whole thread is certainly a "Special" Event.
On second thought, let's not go to the forums. 'Tis a silly place.2 -
Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭MonkeyAssassin24 wrote: »Are people really so inept that they can't find a button that opens a menu to show two other campaigns?? Holy s***...I just...this is a thing that needed a whole thread?SeltzerDuke wrote: »This whole thread is certainly a "Special" Event.
lol do you complain about all bugs that get reported on the forum?0 -
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are you really arguing this much over a tab?it seems that the point zooms right over your head...
"special" is a relative term that is unnecessary. in fact it takes less letters to describe "vet" or "non vet" than it does to describe it as "special"
theres room on the one tab for all campaigns, with their rulesets. c'mon now. its not that big of a deal.
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Lowbei✭✭✭✭✭its not a big deal, you are correct, and all that needed to be said about the subject was stated in the OP.
its simply a bad design decision that will be corrected soon im sure. nothing else to see here, move along
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Forztr✭✭✭✭They're too busy spend 100's of man hours on facial animations to actually design a good interface. I mean really why spend time on stuff people use daily when you can spend time on doing something that's geeky cool but which most players will not even notice.
Hands up all those who speed read the text and click on any text option to move on?
Forz holds up both hands.
Edited by Forztr on August 5, 2014 12:38AM1
