Is there enough bank space?

naturn · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

With 1 main and 2 other alts I have all of the crafting covered but clearly not enough room for storing stuff. Enchanting alone puts a huge demand on space, but with alchemy and wait till the new provisioning comes out! They really need to rethink space. Perhaps they can have special bags for holding crafting stuff.

egosumacunnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Feel's like Zos's long term plan is to make item space an issue so you need mules so they can sell more character slots.

Really the worst thing is no comment from Zos with reasoning and or solutions. There are plenty in this thread, pick one and let us play the game rather than shovelling *** from a to b to c to d, it isn't fun and it is a waste of our time.

Welka · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Though I believe there's enough bank space for your daily needs, I hope the problems some are having with inventory management will be solved with housing. It would be a bad move from the devs to implement housing without the ability to store/display trophies and/or implement some sort of storage

Without those, housing will only be cosmetic and rather pointless

egosumacunnus · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

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DominusPax · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

This is one of the really poorly implemented features. Space should never be a hassle. More so given the fact that provisioning is an unmitigated disaster in its implementation. IF provisioning were streamlined, I would feel differently about it. Since dropping Provisioning, I have noticed a marked increase in storage capacity. The problem? I shouldn't in any way, shape or form have to decide to drop a crafting profession in order to feel like I have enough space. Why, in 2014 does inventory space have to be a concern in a sub based game? I play f2p games that give me more space in storage at the start of the game and charge less for extra, some games even let you earn the space in game.

Working for things of a statistical or cosmetic function is WAY better than things that shouldn't be a hassle. Storage and inventory space feel like a hassle in this game and it gets in the way of actually playing when I have to micromanage it very often.

GnatB · August 2014

Fastest way to fix bank space problems, for those running multiple toons across multiple factions at multiple levels, would probably be to simply remove all the (IMO silly) faction based provisioning ingredients. (and presumably recipies) 1 set shared across all factions.

Another suggestion to help alleviate bankspace issues would be to simply eliminate (or condense down to 1) racial items for the 9 basic (and imperial) crafting.

Preyfar · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

All I want is personal storage and shared storage. It'd make things easier just to have a separate shared per account and individual storage option.

AlexDougherty · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I can live with the bank space I have, plus a bit more later.

But the prices go up quite steeply, I understand why (to stop us buying them all at the beginning then complaining there isn't enough), but I still find the rate of the price increases too steep.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

emilopulos wrote: »

I wish there would be no forum at all, as every time when I`m reading it, all I can see is whiners everywhere. And unfortunately, ZOS instead of working on game is actually listening to the whiners, and makes game dumbed down with every patch.

Just to stay on topic - what left me speechless is that so many players believes, that the price ob bank upgrades is not fair ( I assume is to high ) . Obviously, we should all be able to max the bank within at most 3 days. just complete 4-5 quests, and that should be gold required for maxing it.

Does anyone of you, who complains is even bothered with VET zones nerfed to the ground? I doubt it.

lol one of the final bank upgrades is 85k, I am v12 and have done all the quests outside of some in cyrodiil (and this one where you chase rabbits, I just couldn't beat that one,) I have 100k on me currently. I could not max out my bank if I wanted to. As it stands, because money is scarce after you stop having quests, I haven't even upgraded to the 20k rank.

Sometimes, complaining about people complaining because you yourself do not experience the issue, is worse than the people with the problem to begin with.

Melian · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

badmojo wrote: »

I reject the notion that since we pay a sub we should have the game served to us on a silver platter.

If you were referring to challenging content, I would say "yes", because I'm paying for a game, not a TV show.

Since you're referring to bank space, though, your argument doesn't work. I'm paying for a game, not a mind-numbing inventory management exercise.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Melian wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

I reject the notion that since we pay a sub we should have the game served to us on a silver platter.

If you were referring to challenging content, I would say "yes", because I'm paying for a game, not a TV show.

Since you're referring to bank space, though, your argument doesn't work. I'm paying for a game, not a mind-numbing inventory management exercise.

Cyrodiil=horse riding simulator
rest of the game=inventory management simulator

Reemo · August 2014

No, there isn't enough inventory\bank space, not if you like to craft.
Everything could be solved by having a dedicated, shared crafting material stash (like in Guild Wars 2). Everyone would be happy; crafters and non-crafters, hoarders and non-hoarders, altoholics and non-altoholics.
It's such a relative cheap fix for a, for many players, very annoying 'feature' ... come on devs ... listen to us and make the game we love just a little less frustrating and thus better for everyone.

ArRashid · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Since bank is shared with 7 other characters, it's NOT enough.

I mean, sure, you got plenty of room if you have 1 char with 2-3 professions (unless they are alchemy+enchanting+provisioning), but if you make an alt and want a different profession, you're pretty much screwed and have to fill his own inventory (which in turn just makes you run back to town every 10 minutes because of having full inv)

My main has Clothing+Blacksmithing+Woodworking, which pretty much fills my bank space ALONE. Even when I only keep 1 stack of every material (for crafting for alts and stuff)
materials: 3x 9 tiers = 27 slots
racial stones: 12 slots
trait stones: 2x 8 = 16 slots
tempers: 3x 4 = 12 slots
If I didn't forget anything, that's 67 slots wasted just for profession. For BASE profession. Now add several items that are just sitting there waiting to be researched, some stuff you've collected (about 12+ disguises), some treasure maps, some pets, ..............

Chubbaz · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

There is enough space, if my resource cup overflows I literally 'throw' extras to everyone on my friends list, free of charge. That's how I keep enough space in my bank for the stuff I need.

Although the price is a bit steep for a hoarder like me so if they could maybe drop the price a bit it would really benefit everybody.

Gythral · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I simply will not continue to pay to play "Handbags Online", that's how bad the inventory and bank space issue is, do 1 quest then spend twice as long sorting the junk out!!!

egosumacunnus · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Just started a 3rd character, no character slots left now due to 5 mules. Guess i wan't be playing a new character until they sell us more slots.

amm7sb14_ESO · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

The more I play, the more I realize how ridiculous the inventory is in this game. I leave town, and after 5 minutes have a filled inventory and have to go back to town to sell it all off. I'm constantly having to destroy items just to be able to complete a quest.

Probitas · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I expect high prices in f2p games or p2w Korean grinders. We pay sub fees, and I do not understand why it's so expensive to increase vault space. It's not commensurate with anything other than an exponential increase and a ridiculously high gold sink. If this game had been released solely in Asian markets I'd understand, this goes right with the play style there. But here in North America?

All these gold sinks designed to punish gold farmers leads me to believe the gold sellers were part of the design process and not an unfortunate side effect of the games existence.

Of course if they had always planned on selling storage in an online store this would make sense.

I tried having each character carry their own supplies, which works out pretty well except for provisioning and enchanting. There is just too much to manage well. Burning a character slot for storage only shows the bad design of it, that players have to abuse the system to fix a systemic problem.

StormbrookThunderb · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Soloeus wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

At the beginning you don't have enough. It is overpriced after the third purchase onward.

However, there actually is enough bank space. If you get to 140 space, and get a Light Horse up to level 50 on Oats for inventory increase, and buy your BP up 5 times.

Nope. I have all that and still have two mules.

I'm close, but no cigar.

If each character had 50 spaces for their own junk, that would relieve so much stress off of banking for me.

1. 1 alt for all Race Stones, Treasure Maps and Fishing.

2. 1 alt for all enchanting, only highest level potency, all others.

3. 1 alt for provisioning. You only need one stack of level 5, 20, and 30 recipes to finish a handful of provisioners. From there only keep level V/VI ingredients, see Sous Chef addon for details.

4. 1 alt for all Armor/Weapons you wish to keep safe.

5. 1 alt for all other odds and ends.

You can get them all 3 upgrades, and your main. You can get each an Imperial Edition horse and feed each one 1 Oats a day.

This is how I did it. I admit I do spend an irritating amount of time sorting inventory.

*Yawn. I'd rather sell the stuff to other players. This is why the econ is broken. Give it to a friend who needs it. They'll use it upgrade then I just ask BAM! free something or other.

Your way. I log out …wait oh snap! My computer overheated. Case 2) Log out 1 minute later+ 10 sec log in 1 minute repeat ∞ times. Wake up oh I'm old. Other guy worse case lost 2 months of his life to the game.

SHADOW2KK · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

As others have said, you can create bank characters and also if you create your own guild, you can get 10, just to open guild bank, then lock it down, so only you can access it, then obviously there is the horse for upgrading inv space.

Nestor · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Artemiisia wrote: »

you just have a maximum of 240 bank space to deal with and mules, nothing more nothing less, its your choice what to put in it.

There are two types of players in this game, MMO players and TES players (yes there is overlap). Thing is, MMO players are used to being brutal with their inventories and only keeping what they can use right now or use in the near future. Everything else gets sold, traded, destroyed or trashed.

However, TES players have, for the last 20 years, been encouraged to collect things, armor sets, rares and uniques and collectibles. We can't do that in this game. Worse thing is, ZOS encourages packratting with Trophies, Set Items, Collectibles, Treasure Maps, huge ranges of crafting materials, etc etc.

So, you can either be brutal with your inventory MMO style and have all the room you need, or you can try to collect things and just get frustrated.

Just this weekend I got a pair of Gloves with a nice enchantment and stats on it, and it was clearly marked Unique. In other TES games this would earn a place in my house somewhere, possibly even worn on special occasions. Nope, not in this game, I looked at it, thought, hmm, unique item, this is useless I already have the trait researched, deconstruct it.

Why have things to collect if we can't collect them?

SHADOW2KK · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Nestor wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

you just have a maximum of 240 bank space to deal with and mules, nothing more nothing less, its your choice what to put in it.

There are two types of players in this game, MMO players and TES players (yes there is overlap). Thing is, MMO players are used to being brutal with their inventories and only keeping what they can use right now or use in the near future. Everything else gets sold, traded, destroyed or trashed.

However, TES players have, for the last 20 years, been encouraged to collect things, armor sets, rares and uniques and collectibles. We can't do that in this game. Worse thing is, ZOS encourages packratting with Trophies, Set Items, Collectibles, Treasure Maps, huge ranges of crafting materials, etc etc.

So, you can either be brutal with your inventory MMO style and have all the room you need, or you can try to collect things and just get frustrated.

Just this weekend I got a pair of Gloves with a nice enchantment and stats on it, and it was clearly marked Unique. In other TES games this would earn a place in my house somewhere, possibly even worn on special occasions. Nope, not in this game, I looked at it, thought, hmm, unique item, this is useless I already have the trait researched, deconstruct it.

Why have things to collect if we can't collect them?

Yep that is true, in the TES games, I think imo, probably all players have hoarded to their hearts content as there was no limit to inv space till Oblivion, but that was easily managed by mods and houses.

But ESO does force you to create new characters, join or create guilds, and spend exorbitant amounts of gold on horses feeding to increase inv space, then your personal bank space and backpack upgrades hehe.

This is deliberate people, haha

Gokmak · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

No storage problem here.

I'm a 50 crafter in everything, yet have no problem with bag space. I stopped upgrading my bags to 100, and personal bank to 100.

I craft often, so I keep wood/metal/cloth supplies in my personal bank, as well as enchant mats. I keep alchemy provisions on an alt, and food provisions are tossed into the guild bank. It's not a problem for me.

Maybe stop hoarding crap? Sell more often? Bounce some emails off of friends, to store non-bound items in your mailbox?

Find 10 friends, and start your own guild, with the understanding of shared guild bank space for all openly, full access. Works for me, I'm in 2 of those.

amm7sb14_ESO · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Nestor wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

you just have a maximum of 240 bank space to deal with and mules, nothing more nothing less, its your choice what to put in it.

There are two types of players in this game, MMO players and TES players (yes there is overlap). Thing is, MMO players are used to being brutal with their inventories and only keeping what they can use right now or use in the near future. Everything else gets sold, traded, destroyed or trashed.

However, TES players have, for the last 20 years, been encouraged to collect things, armor sets, rares and uniques and collectibles. We can't do that in this game. Worse thing is, ZOS encourages packratting with Trophies, Set Items, Collectibles, Treasure Maps, huge ranges of crafting materials, etc etc.

So, you can either be brutal with your inventory MMO style and have all the room you need, or you can try to collect things and just get frustrated.

Just this weekend I got a pair of Gloves with a nice enchantment and stats on it, and it was clearly marked Unique. In other TES games this would earn a place in my house somewhere, possibly even worn on special occasions. Nope, not in this game, I looked at it, thought, hmm, unique item, this is useless I already have the trait researched, deconstruct it.

Why have things to collect if we can't collect them?

Thing is, I don't even think it's a divide between MMO players and TES gamers. I've played plenty of MMO's before this one, and I've never had an inventory system as bad as this one.

It's not about wanting to hoard everything I find, it's about not wanting to have to delete every single item I ever encounter during my gameplay. It's quite the difference.

Kreetar · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

yes, I'm one who harps (to myself

) about the cost of expanding bank space & pack space. I think the current cost to get more space in my pack is like 16,000 or something astronomical.

Cogo · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

How many times are Zenimax gonna have to answer the limited bag and bank space?

It encourages trading.....which it has. IT encourages traders....which it has. Some people buy cheap and sell with a profit.

According to a post on the ESO forums, players will be able to trade, buy and sell goods and services through an online marketplace instead. This will not only, according to the developer, keep the game’s economy healthy, but will encourage socialization.

“You don’t necessarily want to do a global auction house for a game with one giant server because that generally leads to all the best gear being available at very, very cheap prices,” according to gameplay designer Nick Konkle. “A lot of times that can trivialize the game.

“You cannot have a healthy economy when there are no restrictions on getting the best stuff in the game.”

So, if you want to sell your wares or buy something crafted by a player or any other sell-able item in the MMO, you will either have to visit the marketplace linked above or join a guild.

http://www.vg247.com/2014/04/12/elder-scrolls-online-players-can-now-buy-sell-trade-though-third-party-auction-forum/

Cogo · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Joining GOOD trade guilds is the key.

A good trade guild isnt one with 500 active members. Its one with the sales log only 30 mins long before its ended.

Drazhar14 · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

If we could hoard everything, there might aswell be no bag/bank limit at all. There needs to be a cap. Yes, collecting crafting materials for every profession takes a lot of space, but it makes sense to be selective and pick what is most important. At max capacity, 240 is more than enough bank space for everything in my opinion (that provisioning rework needs to hurry up though to reduce the number of food materials).

However, I do think the cost is a bit expensive. More bank space should be unlocked as you progress in order to store the new tier of materials you find, yet quests don't give enough gold to meet the higher and higher costs of storage. That being said, I have had to use alts to store things while I collected the gold needed to expand my bank, which is almost at 230 now after 4 months of playing.

Cogo · August 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

You forget the core of ESO "choose your path".
Choose to buy stuff for your gold, fine! Choose to save it for bank space! Fine!
Cant do both ;-)

Itoq · August 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Logging relatively frequently in and out of six mules is not how I want to play a game long term.

I understand that part of modern mmo design is to introduce tedium and whatnot so that we feel like we accomplished and overcame something and so stick with the monthly fee - but the inventory space vs. number of materials etc. in ESO is just silly.