Is Restoration staff healling a viable option, or are Templer healers the only affective build?

Kingcroft · August 2014

I have been running a Nightblade/lightarmor/full magica + Restoration staff as a healer for a couple of weeks. I have ran a lot of group dungeons to try to practice the art of healing with overall success. I saw in chat a request for a Healer to do Cities of ash, and responded say I wanted to join. Then the person asked me if I was a Templer or Sorc. When I said Nightblade with Restoration Staff he said that
he wanted a templer.

This is totally fine of course; if he thinks Templers are the way to go great, and he is trying to build a group he can have confedence that it is going to go well.
It made me wonder what kind of experience people have had either with the Restoration staff or with pure Restoration staff healers?

For myself Blessing of Restoration + Mutigen + Healling Ward are suffecent in keeping people alive. With the nightblade, Strife with funnel health morf works great when we just need to bring people down fast. Dark Cloak keeps me from bleeding and helps me escape unwanted aggro; my Ultimate, soul Siphon helps heal and bring down large group or bosses.

I do have a Templer healler who has some powerful burst heals but I have found that I still use my favorites on the Restoration staff more (probably because I am familiar with it) but it didn't seem to make my non-templer healer obsolete.

Tabbycat · August 2014

I've heard that Nightblades can be excellent healers. I'm thinking once Spellcrafting comes out with restoration spells, we'll see a lot more classes step into the role of healing. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

crislevin · August 2014

If the group is decent, restoration staff healing is sufficient.

If the group is no good, Temp may be the only option.

Restoration staff does good healing for sure, but for to heal multiple allies, temp is still much better.

This may not mean much if the group members can protect themselves to some degree, it becomes very important if the group members know nothing about blocking, cc break, and what the red on ground means.

UPrime · August 2014

Sorc are better healer because their passives restore magicka faster then NB and DK, and even Templar. Templar on the other hand has better burst heals.

NB and DK can be healers, just not as good as the other 2 classes. For regular dungeons though, they're good enough. Once you get into Vet difficulty it gets harder.

This assumes you're looking at pure heals. NB and DK have other skills though to keep a team buffed. Most people don't know them or understand them.

Csub · August 2014

Tabbycat wrote: »

I've heard that Nightblades can be excellent healers. I'm thinking once Spellcrafting comes out with restoration spells, we'll see a lot more classes step into the role of healing. At least that's what I'm hoping for.

Yep, can't wait to craft my own heals! Although, I am a Templar and I have enough heals, but still.

TheBull · August 2014

NBs can be pretty awesome. I think they are the only other class with multiple ally heals.

Larira · August 2014

Jepp. A resto staff healer has no spells for restoring health very quickly like a templar. Resto staff is more HoTs & shield and needs a group which keeps this in mind. For a bad random group a templar may be the better option. But a templar runs out of magicka very fast.

Greetings

Kingcroft · August 2014

Siponing has a passive called, Magical flood which boost magica by 4/8%. This plus soul siphoner makes strife a way to cause damage and heal at the same time.

Kingcroft · August 2014

Healling Ward, in affect, produces healing very quickly, especially in a low health situation.

crislevin · August 2014

Larira wrote: »

Jepp. A resto staff healer has no spells for restoring health very quickly like a templar. Resto staff is more HoTs & shield and needs a group which keeps this in mind. For a bad random group a templar may be the better option. But a templar runs out of magicka very fast.

Greetings

actually it does.

bless of restoration heals instantly for 250
stack of grand healing heals almost 300 per sec
healing ward can "heal" 400-1000 instantly

There are some very good heals in restoration staff. But Temp's rushed ceromony, rite of passage are extraordinarily good.

jrgray93 · August 2014

NB is a prefectly fine healer. You don't have to be a Templar. In fact, I went most of 1-45 not even bothering with any Templar heals except Extended Ritual. What Templars gain in direct burst healing, they lack in magicka management. For example, you have Siphoning Strikes, which is great for regenerating magicka. You can also evolve Strife into Funnel Health. Also, inner light from the mages guild adds plenty of spell crit, which is a HUGE boost to your healing power.

Magdalina · August 2014

I'm a Sorc healer. But then because of that I personally never ran with other healers so I have no clue if they're better than me XD

I don't think I'm bad tho. Ran Spindle with no wipes a couple days ago=) Fungal hardmode after just a couple of tries. 90% of the groups I ran with loved me for a healer. The other 10%, by coincidence, were not very good players themselves and, even more importantly, refused to listen to advices. I gave up on running PUGs, I run with friends now or don't run at all. Oh, and my standard setup is Clannfear+Grand Healing+Mutagen+Combat Prayer+Inner Light. But this can change a lot for different fights.

I have heard NBs can make pretty good healers, too, especially with good groups. ^^ I mean, I'm no elitist, but if people refuse to learn, they will die, and this will not be your fault. Even if maybe you could've saved them with fabled Templar ulti. Or maybe you'd have ran out of magicka because of how much you'd have to heal and how badly templars lack mag management atm.
...that said, I greatly envy Templar healing ulti. Looks gorgeous<3

Kingcroft · August 2014

Just an asside, this magica management issue is a big factor. Healers need to think about an absorb magica enchantment for the staff, + reduce magica cost or increase magica regen with jewelry.

kherzaheb17_ESO · August 2014

Every class has good abilitiy to heal groups.I have a friend who using using DK as healer and he is doing great job.Also i met few nightblades healers as well.They were good too.So if player is good what he is doing , there will be no problem on role choice.

Thechemicals · August 2014

NB healers are awesome and with siphoning are somewhat more reliable than Templars since they cannot run out of magicka to heal when groomed properly. Both can do the highest level content in this game so it doesn't matter who is better. On the flip side though, A Templar with resto staff is the best healer. Resto passives+templar passives create the most powerful heal bursts in this game. With a NB you are limited to regen heals and one solid power heal. The Templar has 2 power heals in his tree alone and ive seen 1500+ heal bursts from them.

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO · August 2014

seriously ? some other classes holding a restoration staff doesn't makes them a healer , with templar passive ability focus healing + Restoration Master: While a restoration staff is equipped, increases all healing done

, everyone standing in my purifying ritual / rune focus are receiving 40%+ healing bonus from me, and i often stack with restoration staff's healing prayer something ( the first ability which boost people 850 armor + spell resistant & 11% damage output, the boost effect is significant ... )

and yea.. the templar's mana management is a huge issue and i wonder when is Zenimax gonna do something about it , 3 instant big heal ( Rushed Ceremony / Honor the Dead ) and i am out of mana

jrgray93 · August 2014

No offense, @henrycupcakerwb17_ESO, but you should take another look at those mechanics. The passive only increases healing done by templar abilities. I also believe Rune Focus only applies to the caster.

madangrypally · August 2014

jrgray93 wrote: »

No offense, @henrycupcakerwb17_ESO, but you should take another look at those mechanics. The passive only increases healing done by templar abilities. I also believe Rune Focus only applies to the caster.

You are correct. Templar's passives have 0 effect on Restoration staff abilities. Restoration staffs passives work with Templars abilities though.

henrycupcakerwb17_ESO · August 2014

jrgray93 wrote: »

No offense, @henrycupcakerwb17_ESO, but you should take another look at those mechanics. The passive only increases healing done by templar abilities. I also believe Rune Focus only applies to the caster.

i just copied this straight from dunno where.. restoration staff passive > Restoration Master: While a restoration staff is equipped, increases all healing done ,
but i put all points at magic & all points into restoration staff & restoration light for 3 months so i know what i am doing .. lol

Rune Focus only applies to the caster. yes , the spell & armor boosting effect and i am talking about the templar healing focus passive makes anyone who are inside this rune radius receive additional 30% healing (from me )

Springt-Über-Zwerge · August 2014

@henrycupcakerwb17_ESO‌ if you cast honor the dead when an ally is over 50%the spell is too expensive but it returns a lot of magicka if you cast it at allies with low life. And if you use heavy attacks (restores 10%max magicka) in between the heals you wont have mana problems. Also you need a lot of magicka pots in vet dungeons maybe you should give alchemy a try?

jrgray93 · August 2014

I don't have much of a problem managing magicka in PVE most of the time. It's in PVP where the templar magicka issue really rears its ugly head.