Ignored & Excluded by Elitist Role players.

pinstripesc · August 2014

I've also been put on ignore by people using anti-spam addons. I had one installed for awhile that actually continually tried putting me on ignore because I talked too fast, lol. Once I was at an event where I started talking to someone and it took him awhile to realize his filter had blocked me. Not that it's likely that all the people in the room had anti-spam filters running, but that's something to keep in mind.

jockjammerb16_ESO · August 2014

If was hanging out with freinds playing dice in a pub and a stranger asked to join in,which is what happened here,I would at least have the common human respect to politely tell them it's a private game and we'de prefer to be left alone. Anyone who simply ignores a person in that situation is being rude. That's what happened in this situation. Maybe you and your freinds act like that in real life too but it's not considered socially acceptable in any culture I know of. It's not hard to say "Sorry this is a private gathering." If you treat people like **** people will think you are ****. Learn some basic manners people. It's not hard to be polite to people and it doesn't cost anything but a few seconds of your time.

PF1901 · August 2014

Reiterpallasch wrote: »

If I was hanging around with a bunch of friends and the like, enjoying myself in our mostly private conversation, we'd all ignore you too. And if you kept trying to butt in, just tell you to @#$% off since you're not getting the hint. And you know what? We wouldn't be *** for doing it, either.

Just like how the people in game weren't elitists nor *** for excluding you from their private event that you felt entitled to try to join. They were trying to RP a drinking game. You tried to RP a *** who interrupts other people.

Damn, some people....how about telling that person to get lost? As a roleplayer one could even roleplay that. But I guess if it's not in the script...
Common sense - nah, never heard of that.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Reiterpallasch wrote: »

If I was hanging around with a bunch of friends and the like, enjoying myself in our mostly private conversation, we'd all ignore you too. And if you kept trying to butt in, just tell you to @#$% off since you're not getting the hint. And you know what? We wouldn't be *** for doing it, either.

Just like how the people in game weren't elitists nor *** for excluding you from their private event that you felt entitled to try to join. They were trying to RP a drinking game. You tried to RP a *** who interrupts other people.

Then RP with him. If a "***" (which he really wasn't but whatever) interrupts your drinking game, don't use an ooc mechanic to block him. RP snobbishly telling him his kind is not welcome or whatever.

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · August 2014

I do have to say...as I have said since beta the chat system is pretty poor. it is really easy to lose things especially if you don't have all kinds of windows open.

I remember WoW improving their chat alot and there was an addon WIM that I loved.

I personally don't like chat bubbles (if other options are available) and really hope they will let addons improve the chat or they do it at some point.

edit: And for once Smeep I completely agree with you.

Audigy · August 2014

jockjammerb16_ESO wrote: »

If was hanging out with freinds playing dice in a pub and a stranger asked to join in,which is what happened here,I would at least have the common human respect to politely tell them it's a private game and we'de prefer to be left alone. Anyone who simply ignores a person in that situation is being rude. That's what happened in this situation. Maybe you and your freinds act like that in real life too but it's not considered socially acceptable in any culture I know of. It's not hard to say "Sorry this is a private gathering." If you treat people like **** people will think you are ****. Learn some basic manners people. It's not hard to be polite to people and it doesn't cost anything but a few seconds of your time.

I disagree with your statement.

In my opinion it is wrong to say that people are rude just because they don't want to explain every stranger who comes across that they are not interested in him or her.

Not sure your gender or your RL activities but do you know how annoying it can be if every 10 minutes some guy is coming over trying to get something going with you? If you would explain everyone that you are not interested then the night is over and you didn't dance at all. $:\$

Those two "girls" were having a drink at the bar, you can compare this quite well to a bar or club where you go to with your friend. These two wanted to be alone and the OP should had respected that, just like people should respect this if it happens in RL.

You want that people learn manners but forget your own in the process

Its not ok to force people into conversations or activities with you.

I would assume those people in that inn had a reason for ignoring him, we all know how especially younger people can crash a party and maybe they just didn't want to let this happen so they ignored him.

No harm done and the OP shouldn't feel bad because of this, its just a natural behavior and has not necessarily something to do with the OP, but with situations like that in general.

As some others said before, its a 1:1 comparable situation to RL when you go into a club and everyone who does this frequently and might have a good look will understand the reasoning behind the behavior of those Roleplayers.

Not sure why some people now have to hate on Roleplayers because of that incident, nobody got hurt and nobody was mean either - just move on, nothing to see here

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · August 2014

I agree with you to some extent. But in "real life" I might give a dirty look to someone who is bothering me. I might turn my back to them after or use an obscene hand gesture. If they got too close I might practice what my Daddy taught me and make them sing soprano for a while...I might yell at them or tell them to bugger off or tell the bartender to call the bouncer.

In real life I would let them know their presence was not appreciated.

So if we are going to compare the tavern folk RPing to real life....I guess something could have still happened.

No one HAS to do anything in this game, RP or not. Good manners and good social/RP behavior says maybe they should have.

However I personally think a good RPer would do what you think a real life person might do and that typically isn't making like they don't exist. At least not at first.

Now if someone was trolling me while I was Rping and I responded in both IC and OOC (and maybe reported them) at that time ignoring them is probably a good option.

Yes the OP needs to move on and decide if he wants to engage with RP again. it just saddens me when someone gets the wrong idea about RP based on a few RPers or instances that a misunderstanding could have been easily solved with a few polite words.

Inversus · August 2014

DaedricCheese wrote: »

Yeah people are jerks

Counter jerk them by griefing their experience.

Perfect

Selique · August 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

Sounds like you just got unlucky and found a crappy group of RPers. If you had found me, I'd have RP'd with you no problem. If you want to give it another go, feel free to look me up on the Ebonheart Pact side @Selique.

I wouldn't get discouraged and hate on all RPers just because one group was a bunch of jerks. I can assure you, we are not all bad!

Delte · August 2014

As a RP'er I can most of us are not elitists, but rather very guarded as to who we interact with. Understand most players just want to troll and spoil our fun in the game, some will even start with good intentions and then degenerate into a troll.

I will give one example.
We was RP'ing in Deeshan and our guild was on exercise to make camp find food and wood for the fire. A random player came up and wanted to join in. We all agreed because he came in and seemed like a legit RP'er.

Well this guy then started acting up and spoiling the scene by telling us IC about Game of Thrones and whats happening which spoiled the series for those of us who live in the UK and have to wait to see it. He then started to spam AOE effects to make our characters stand up and draw weapons. After this we all put him on ignore and carried on with out session in rp.
90% of players i see when rp'ing in game do this and it is expected from players now by those who role play.

As a rp'er though if someone drops into our group and starts to rp with us i will react to them and try and draw them into the conversation. If they start to try and disrupt the gathering I put them on ignore and will never speak to them again.

Roleplayers are paying customers of the game just the same as all of you are, and like you we expect some respect from other players. You reap what you sow.
Remember that the next time you think about trolling a group of RP'ers and then wonder why they won't interact with random people in the game.

reagen_lionel · August 2014

Vendersleigh wrote: »

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

Innocente, that comes over as an appalling attitude.
And what you are describing is not rp in the full sense but rather is semi-scripted acting out of parts.
Roleplay means to be in-character and deal with the world.

The very least one can do in such a situation as the group in the OP is to send an OOC tell saying that the group is roleplaying privately.

The next best thing would be to say in character, "Go away, this is a private party." Perhaps emote turning one's back on them (but send an OOC tell to say that it's not OOC rudeness but rather that the characters are ignoring him).

Best of all would be to try to include them in the ongoing rp, which is most often achievable with a bit of effort, and can then lead on to more rp (and potentially a new convert to roleplaying!)

Bringing in new roleplayers to the fold is exciting, fun and needed. Otherwise, who will we play with when current people leave the game for all the myriad rl reasons that happen?

There seems to be a growing trend among some roleplayers to have a bubble round their rp, both excluding others and excluding more and more of the game from their rp. They see "RP Events" or "let's rp now" time rather than organically being in character as much as they can.

Personally I will rp with anyone who attempts it. Even if someone has a non-lore name and is naked but is honestly making the attempt then I'll rp with them. We all started somewhere and knew nothing about rp in a formal sense so I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
And this has often worked out very well, as I have pulled in many non-rpers (even some originally anti-rpers) into the roleplaying camp over the past 11 years. More fun for all concerned (and less griefing ).

I know it is very hard in a group setting to see all the chat going on (and that is why I support chat bubbles) but actively to ignore /tells is very rude.

The chat bubble thing is what I was mentioning in my post before. And its likely the case of why he didnt get a response.

But I do fully agree with what you say with people that just do RP events or "lets rp now" than organically being in character iswhat I do. I do my best to be in character from the time I log in til I log out.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

its like half of you don't read the thread. His tells couldn't even go through, he was on ignore.

Also, anyone functional in the game now has a chatbox fade prevention addon. Especially if you are rping, when you should be listening to other peoples' says.

This is also not a sexist thing where he was harassing the women at the bar. RP is not like rl, in that, unless the person is causing a problem ooc, you generally want to interact with people, even if just to ic blow them off. I don't think he was expecting the girls to offer him a BJ under the bar. Unless he was actually hitting on them or sexually harassing them (ic or ooc really) using an ooc mechanism to ignore him completely breaks character.

Yes in rl I don't want strangers crashing my private parties, but in a game, were I to rp, I would want people to join in, and would at least be polite enough to tell them it was an invite only even if not. (and I wouldn't be rping in a public setting if I wanted it to be private.)

Raash · August 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

See yourself as spared, Something like 90% of ESO RPers do some wierd vampire RP ala vampire 1: "I am dangerous"<fangs glimmering in the light of the tavern fire>
vampire 2: "Oh you are cursed too, lets fly off togheter"
vampire 1: "Thought you´d never ask, meow"

or very similar =/

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Raash wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

See yourself as spared, Something like 90% of ESO RPers do some wierd vampire RP ala vampire 1: "I am dangerous"<fangs glimmering in the light of the tavern fire>
vampire 2: "Oh you are cursed too, lets fly off togheter"
vampire 1: "Thought you never asked, meow"

or very similar =/

lol yea the twilight/underworld rp is silly as heck.

Then again, while I am not rping, I am playing a khajiit werewolf, and I can't entirely wrap my brain around a cat that turns into a dog.

Raash · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

See yourself as spared, Something like 90% of ESO RPers do some wierd vampire RP ala vampire 1: "I am dangerous"<fangs glimmering in the light of the tavern fire>
vampire 2: "Oh you are cursed too, lets fly off togheter"
vampire 1: "Thought you never asked, meow"

or very similar =/

lol yea the twilight/underworld rp is silly as heck.

Then again, while I am not rping, I am playing a khajiit werewolf, and I can't entirely wrap my brain around a cat that turns into a dog.

That is a bit disturbing really haha, one wierd pup lol

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · August 2014

Raash wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

See yourself as spared, Something like 90% of ESO RPers do some wierd vampire RP ala vampire 1: "I am dangerous"<fangs glimmering in the light of the tavern fire>
vampire 2: "Oh you are cursed too, lets fly off togheter"
vampire 1: "Thought you never asked, meow"

or very similar =/

lol yea the twilight/underworld rp is silly as heck.

Then again, while I am not rping, I am playing a khajiit werewolf, and I can't entirely wrap my brain around a cat that turns into a dog.

That is a bit disturbing really haha, one wierd pup lol

personally I'd like to be a different were, though Hircine favors the werewolves most. Maybe a wereboar or a werebear. Oh! A weretiger (did tes ever have those?)

Raash · August 2014

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Raash wrote: »

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

So I ended up at this tavern in some town I cant remember to get I don't know what and found about 9 players inside mingling with npcs and talking very formally and rp-like. I listened in for a bit while leaning back against a wall *emote. They were talking about alchohol and playing drinking games and this.....made me excited to want to join! So I googled "how to roleplay in videogames" and did a quick crash course read-up, then back to game and waited for a good opportunity to get into the action. There was no action! They acted like I was invisible, I got more play from an npc encounter I swear!

I approached the group playing drinking games first (they were split into 2 groups) and said "mind if I join in? I just arrived from a grueling experience and could use a drink with some friendly faces". .....no answer....2,3,4,5 minutes pass. So respectfully I accepted that they may be deeply involved in their....drinking game rp so I go over to the bar where the other group is any say hello to 2 females having fun rping. So im thinking, hey alchohol, fun women, lets do this......2,3,4,5 minutes later still ignored. Then I realized the terrible truth....they all ignore listed me!

Yeah, that's my rp experience in eso. No pm from them saying "hey we are doing our own thing but if you are interested heres our website" OR..... "hey sorry but this is an exclusive event" OR EVEN.... "hey we just don't [snip] like redguards so [snip] here please". Nope...none of that. Instead I was talking in a room full of people that didn't even give me a chance to play with them. How do I know they all ignore listed me? Because I messaged every single one and it didn't let me.

And do I care that I dropped a Nova Ultimate on their faces on my way out? No, little rp elitist, I didn't really-really want to play with them anyway. : *(

[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Cursing & Profanity]

See yourself as spared, Something like 90% of ESO RPers do some wierd vampire RP ala vampire 1: "I am dangerous"<fangs glimmering in the light of the tavern fire>
vampire 2: "Oh you are cursed too, lets fly off togheter"
vampire 1: "Thought you never asked, meow"

or very similar =/

lol yea the twilight/underworld rp is silly as heck.

Then again, while I am not rping, I am playing a khajiit werewolf, and I can't entirely wrap my brain around a cat that turns into a dog.

That is a bit disturbing really haha, one wierd pup lol

personally I'd like to be a different were, though Hircine favors the werewolves most. Maybe a wereboar or a werebear. Oh! A weretiger (did tes ever have those?)

Yeah, or a werebird or a weretoad would be cool too

Elridge · August 2014

Reading everyones comments is kind of depressing to see how some of the roleplayers have treated people. I had never roleplayed before randomly coming across a guild one day and deciding to jump in with them, they welcomed me with open arms.

http://www.blueskooma.com/home

you could come to our weekly auction tonight @10pm EST that is open to EVERYONE, roleplayer or not, In Marbruk, Greenshade at the Merchant's Plaza in the center of town

Sabin1269 · August 2014

I think I've had one decent RP experience in the game. I was asked to join a Khajiit guild where all the players would speak like a Khajiit and would meet up for questing and some RP. Did that the first few nights then everyone either left the guild or just stopped signing on. I was standing outside of a dungeon in Grahtwood I believe waiting to see if I could get a group together and there were 3 RP's outside the entrance using /say and /yell getting into it. I left them alone and started asking in chat for a group and couldn't believe the crap they started talking about me and how I was out of place in the game and if they could they would group and kill my toon for invading their space! So I /sitchair right in the middle of their group, talked some Khajiiti smack back and /bucketsplash 'ed then before leaving. RP's wonder why so many people give them crap and this was the perfect example of their elitist attitudes giving them a bad rep.

This one purrs at the thought of clawing their eyes out and feeding their entrails to the Skeever!

reggielee · August 2014

used to rp a ton, my experience is that you have a set group, have known each other for a long time and have been working on plots and background story between each other for awhile. An unknown walks in and wants to join in, may be welcomed other times but perhaps they are burned out on one timers who come in and disturb the storyline going on and then never are seen again. Or they are using another channel to rp with or you blurted in rudely despite what you said.

not sure. but a good group should have whispered you some directions or asked you to join in another time etc etc, just politeness. however, the fact that you posted a knee jerk reaction to a one time attempt shows me that you are pretty much a drama queen and wouldnt have worked out in the emotional world of rp

SFBryan18 · August 2014

Probably the same snobby people who would act "high and mighty" on the Skyrim and Nexus forums, which got me banned from both for speaking my mind. These people never grew out of their high school clicks, and they choose to group with like minded individuals so they feel more secure about their own choices in life. They are intolerant of outsiders because they feel threatened and also need to vent their frustrations onto random strangers for a small amount of satisfaction, likely because their lives are miserable and they can't find happiness elsewhere.

GreySix · August 2014

Thanks to the OP for this thread.

I'll avoid such groups like the plague.

Taz · August 2014

Every group has their bad apples. It's the people calling you names in PvP, the people kicking the healer because she's a DK instead of a Templar in PvE, the people who ignore you in RP. Raids can be cliquey and elitist, RP can be cliquey and elitist, PvP can be cliquey and elitist.

Personally, I like to RP with randoms. A friend and I used to RP beggars all the time, just sitting at a street corner and heckling anyone who walked past (for in-character gold, not real game gold

) and sometimes we even got non-RPers joining in the fun. Or we might RP in a dungeon group while a member is AFK or we're waiting for a tank, and again, it was fun because sometimes the other groupmate(s) would join in, even if they weren't experienced. I've been RPing with others in public before where someone ended up privately messaging me saying "Wow, that's so cool- it's like watching a movie!"

There are a lot of RPers who are happy to RP with strangers and take newcomers under their wing. But there are also RPers who ignore anyone else; and it's not just non-RPers. I've been RPing for roughly ten years now and sometimes even I get ignored when I try to politely throw out RP fishing lines. It just depends on the group, like any other aspect of a multi-player game.

That said, I'd like to discredit comments like most RP being sexual or dominated by Twilight-loving vampires.

That's certainly not the case. Yes, it exists, but by and large you see soldiers, mercenaries, pirates, civilians, thieves, guards, etc. Strained relationships between the different races, tension and conflict. Glance at a list of RP guilds at a place like teso-rp and you'll see that's the norm of RP.

And there's no psuedo-Shakespearean English being used. Our characters use the same speech patterns as those used by the NPCs in game. An RPer would give you a weird look and assume you're trying to make fun of them if you walked up and said "How art thou this eve o' fair maiden?"

Zorrashi · August 2014

It is true that I've never seen or heard much of "elitist RPers", but then, I've never been part of a such a large RP group ever in my life, so I never really experience much due to staying with my few close friends for RP. Or wandering RPs, but that's a rare occasion.

I figured they existed, and just like I thought, their demeanor is undesirable. It is true that RPing is more of a niche activity, and has, on many occasions, developed into a sort of culture which typically groups together with either a "country club" mentality or a "small group" hookup.

One is a significantly larger group, but due to either weariness or, as demonstrated, a 'superior' sense of identity, is selective of whom they allow to join. Admission is typically only through knowing certain people who are already within said group. But there are guilds who are generally more casual and accepting, most being from smaller RP groups themselves.

The other groups are smaller, and typically go unnoticed by the populace for the most part, being mostly comprised of close friends and colleagues. I'm not saying their better, per se, but I do believe the being in such small, almost unknown community allows them to be more open to any who want to join. RP is generally accepted to be better with more people.

But of course, there are some who are indecent toward anyone they don't consider an RPer. I can't say much more about them than that, other than that they do exist.

To OP's situation is only a demonstration of such an instance.

opaj · August 2014

Thechemicals wrote: »

Im going to be the better player here and move forward and hope that I don't encounter these Rp elitist types ever again. I guess I may have come off as too excited and willing..... and considering most of them had women names, id guess they thought I was some kinda creeper perv. It didn't help that I had no pants on, but that was only because of an addon bug with wykkids outfitter.

I'm going to go out on a limb and suggest that this may have had something to do with it.

Elridge · August 2014

hmm didn't catch that comment... though if I were roleplaying I prolly would have just question why he had no pants on... Who knows he might have had a really good story hahaha

Taz · August 2014

"Shor's beard, lad... where are your pants?!"

But if the lack of pants is indeed with regard to an addon bug, I'd just preface your entrance into an RP next time with, (( Hey guys, my lack of pants is just because of an addon bug, I'm not trying to grief I just want to join in, pretend he's got pants. ))* before you hop in. A lot of people see people coming up to them half-naked saying hi as, well... the looking for hawt pixel cyberz crowd.

*The (( )) indicate out of character chat.

Bleakraven · August 2014

Sorry to hear you had such a nasty first time experience with RP.

RP can be a lot of fun and I hope you do try again. As with all things, there are nasty people everywhere. I look forward to seeing you in-game, feel free to rp with me anytime

Cyberdown · August 2014

Either you were spamming chat with "OBAMA#1" or spamming trade stuff over and over and over...

Ive put countless people on ignore because doing so has turned "zone" into "chat" rather than spambot.

you were on ignore most likely due to prior zone chat behavior, good intentioned or not...

Ignored &amp; Excluded by Elitist Role players.

Ignored & Excluded by Elitist Role players.