Congrats to AD for Winning Wabbajack!

Tintinabula · August 2014

All I can say is as a pug player I kill blues and yellows indiscriminately. Several times in the last two weeks especially our efforts to take yellow holds were thwarted by blues. The same thing can be said of yellows sneaking up from behind and trying to farm our FCs while we attacked Blue Castles..

Now..I can either put on my tin foil hat and hypothesize that the "green alliance" was beating us...or I can figure out that both alliances independently are opportunistic...just like EP.

Renuo · August 2014

Yeah well done AD. During off-peak you have more numbers than both DC And EP combined but I'm sure that's got nothing to do with it!

Cody · August 2014

while I don't approve of some of the methods you guys employed, im not going to be a sore loser like others here have.
well done.
looking forward to the next campaigns. will be interesting to see what happens when population is more equal. after all, it will only be 5 campaigns.

sbanned_530978 · August 2014

@Tintinabula‌
I never said every single DC and EP were on the same TS.

But when you understand pvp well enough and really know how the flow of battle moves and keep an eye on the map very closely. Its pretty simple. When EP and DC push, the large zerg ball impulse spammers hit roe and alessia and you see no fighting to the north towards bleakers.

This happens multiple times a day. You even seen red hit bloodmayne and blue hit blackboot at the same time in an attemp to steal both our scrolls at once to weaken us.

This also happens multiple times a day while its much less common to see fighting up north between EP and DC when AD holds emperor.

Pvp tactics 101 not hard to understand the 2 factions team up against the faction with emperor.

Tintinabula · August 2014

and that could have absolutely nothing to do with the fact we don't have 300 players to baby sit an emp keep?

Look, I'm not a sore loser..but in all honesty ya'll got lucky. Half the ppl on our side didn't even take this campaign seriously cause we knew at any given moment ZOS would prematurely end it and declare a defacto winner..grats.

Cody · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@Tintinabula‌
large zerg ball impulse spammers

You have no right to complain about that. AD did the same thing MANY times. heck that's all I ever see your emperor do. I wont be a sore loser, but I wont let you pull nonsense like you just pulled either.

sbanned_530978 · August 2014

@Tintinabula‌
Nothing lucky about it. If anything it was unluckyness getting 2 factions 'teaming up' vs 1 almost the whole time.
We held lead 99% of the campaigns duration as well (you could have done the same not knowing when it would end), it was hard work and relentless fighting and in the end AD camp out on top with a pretty big lead while being severely outnumbered getting hit from both sides 24/7.

Cody · August 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

and that could have absolutely nothing to do with the fact we don't have 300 players to baby sit an emp keep?

Look, I'm not a sore loser..but in all honesty ya'll got lucky. Half the ppl on our side didn't even take this campaign seriously cause we knew at any given moment ZOS would prematurely end it and declare a defacto winner..grats.

no. half the people on our side were idiots. they spent more time arguing and bickering with each other over pointless nonsense instead of PvPing. if not that, they were where they were NOT needed. I remember when we were losing scrolls, and half of us were at alessia. AD did not win due to luck, they had better teamwork and coordination. im EP and im saying that. no need to get worked up over it though. we have some new campaigns to try out Monday, and we will see how they go

Tintinabula · August 2014

whatever..EP was second and then lost second to be in third place for the majority of the campaign and then we come back this week and take second..but you call your own team idiots...when coaches call me an idiot..i throw the game.

Laura · August 2014

always outnumbered is that a joke? try playing during oceanic times. The only presence is AD.

You guys won because you have a 24 hour presence where the other two factions do not. During any time other than those times you guys would SIGNIFICANTLY LOSE POINTS. Then when EP and DC would go to bed the AD would stay full and we would have one bar each. Of COURSE you won - your win is default it was never in question to us that you would because of this simple fact.
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also FPS issues effect AD the most? thats a joke right?

OP is a joke and troll bait. Guess I'm just as dumb for taking the bait.

Sorry even if I was AD I would have to say your win doesn't count. This coming from the EP who said our original victory didn't count because we were there first and lost a ton of ground near the end. You literally won because oceanic people picked AD for some reason. Grats.

Renuo · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@Tintinabula‌
Nothing lucky about it. If anything it was unluckyness getting 2 factions 'teaming up' vs 1 almost the whole time.
We held lead 99% of the campaigns duration as well (you could have done the same not knowing when it would end), it was hard work and relentless fighting and in the end AD camp out on top with a pretty big lead while being severely outnumbered getting hit from both sides 24/7.

You might only play when all 3 factions are locked so you'd be unaware how stupid you sound when you say AD was outnumbered.

You're aware this is a 24/7 game right? Or did you think when you logged in owning the map was just down to how good you guys were... lol

kijima · August 2014

Esostats doesn't record everything, nor can it until everyone uses esostats. The more people that use it, all of the time, then the more reliable it will be.

Cody · August 2014

Tintinabula wrote: »

whatever..EP was second and then lost second to be in third place for the majority of the campaign and then we come back this week and take second..but you call your own team idiots...when coaches call me an idiot..i throw the game.

I call EP idiots because they were! you think I enjoy doing it?! no!! this went on for 2 months!!! arguing with each other, about which keep to attack, while insulting each other... for1-2 hours on end... IS IDIOTIC. AGAIN, IT WENT ON FOR 2 MONTHS. it is a waste of time. if we would have spent that time PVPing, we would have won. EP did some amazing things this campaign. capping 5/6 emp keeps in... what was it... 30 mins-an hour? AND holding them? thats no small feat. I do in fact believe we had more skill then the AD did. just did not have the teamwork and coordination. all I ever saw AD do was impulse spamming zergs. real, actual sieges against us? I RARLEY saw it work out. in fact, they gained most of their gains by nightcapping. im calling EP idiots because I believe we should have won. and we would have, if we did not fight each other more than the enemy:( think of that what you will.

k1llorbek1lled · August 2014

OP you have to be trolling lmao.

Laura wrote: »

always outnumbered is that a joke? try playing during oceanic times. The only presence is AD.

You guys won because you have a 24 hour presence where the other two factions do not. During any time other than those times you guys would SIGNIFICANTLY LOSE POINTS. Then when EP and DC would go to bed the AD would stay full and we would have one bar each. Of COURSE you won - your win is default it was never in question to us that you would because of this simple fact.

You win, close thread.

TheBull · August 2014

DC can't win with chat spamming zerg guild. They suck the life right out the alliance. They spam chat nonstop like it's a competition to form the largest group. By the end of the day they will have 100 people trying to take a keep or even worse sitting at resource for 10 minutes. Essentially taking 75 people out of position.

It's shame but it lends credence to the saying "there's a sucker born every minute."

Enkil · August 2014

Laura wrote: »

always outnumbered is that a joke? try playing during oceanic times. The only presence is AD.

You guys won because you have a 24 hour presence where the other two factions do not. During any time other than those times you guys would SIGNIFICANTLY LOSE POINTS. Then when EP and DC would go to bed the AD would stay full and we would have one bar each. Of COURSE you won - your win is default it was never in question to us that you would because of this simple fact.

^this.... As an Oceanic EP player I left Wabba... It was always overwhelming AD numbers versus our handful of active players...

TheBull · August 2014

The Aussie Dominion is a force to be reckoned with.

CheesyDaedra · August 2014

Last t

krayiss wrote: »

@bigtuna

AD won through hardwork and determination, not numbers.

Lol.

Last i checked AD is always zerging.

I hate the streamers who made you all stack on the national socialist faction :c

sbanned_530978 · August 2014

@NookyZooky‌
The emperor is a different story but 2 'large zerg ball impulse spammers' which were red and blue obviously beat 1 AD zerg. Calling that nonsense doesnt strengthen your point. And blue crashed the servers many times trying to dethrone perma with healing springs.

@laura
We significantly lost points because it was 2 factions vs 1 almost 24/7. And we won because of hardwork it wasnt just 1 time zone that fought. Simply outplayed by AD

@Renuo‌
With EP and DC teaming up trying to dethrone perma it was pretty obvious how outnumbered AD was fighting 2 factions at the same time and still winning with a big lead.
Holding emp for how long we have vs 2 factions shows just how good we are.

Xsorus · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@NookyZooky‌
The emperor is a different story but 2 'large zerg ball impulse spammers' which were red and blue obviously beat 1 AD zerg. Calling that nonsense doesnt strengthen your point. And blue crashed the servers many times trying to dethrone perma with healing springs.

@laura
We significantly lost points because it was 2 factions vs 1 almost 24/7. And we won because of hardwork it wasnt just 1 time zone that fought. Simply outplayed by AD

@Renuo‌
With EP and DC teaming up trying to dethrone perma it was pretty obvious how outnumbered AD was fighting 2 factions at the same time and still winning with a big lead.
Holding emp for how long we have vs 2 factions shows just how good we are.

Actually.... Everyone who played GW2 before coming to this game knows that's why you won.

Cause that's how everyone won their matches in GW2, by having Aussies stack a server.

Its how they took control of Auriels Bow, We'd be pretty even during the days, but the second we went to bed, Ad would log in and take everything. Having that big of a point gap for 9-10 hours straight every night means you're going to win even if you're remotely competent at the other time zones.

sbanned_530978 · August 2014

@xsorusb14_ESO‌
Its actually different because 2 factions team up night and day and primarily focus on AD since we hold emperor, its common tactics but we have just proved superior on the battlefield and put the work in.

Grim13 · August 2014

boom chicka chicka wahhhh wahhhh !!!

RedTalon · August 2014

Good job ladies and other genders

Xsorus · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@xsorusb14_ESO‌
Its actually different because 2 factions team up night and day and primarily focus on AD since we hold emperor, its common tactics but we have just proved superior on the battlefield and put the work in.

Yes....i'm sure they just team up on you *grin*

Let me just put that to rest right now, The only faction that's going to get teamed up on regularly and intentionally is going to be the one in 2nd place.

Because 1st place doesn't want him to catch up, and 3rd place wants to be 2nd place.

Laura · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@xsorusb14_ESO‌
Its actually different because 2 factions team up night and day and primarily focus on AD since we hold emperor, its common tactics but we have just proved superior on the battlefield and put the work in.

there are lots of examples of you guys helping the DC. It happens. Literally blueberries and bees swarming our keep together, it didn't happen all the time but it did sometimes. Usually when we pissed both sides off.

My point is that I'm sure you can select a couple of times where dc and ep worked together (though I've never seen it and I pvp way more than I'd like to admit). I have literally never seen the EP and DC work together against the AD. I see quite the contrary - difference being I admit it may be a case of greener grass.

It is a fact, however, that every single night you can look at wabba and it is AD full and usually one bared on the other factions for 10+ hours. You are oceanic stacked - your victory means nothing and you don't even have to try during peak hours and still win (we usually have your scrolls and most of your ground by the time we have to log only to log back in to everything yellow because we don't have the same oceanic presence)

The nights I do stay up and try to fight back AD literally never lose numbers while we are stuck with almost nothing at all.

Wabba was always a fight between DC and EP - yours was just an annoying presence that shook up the battlefield from time to time. That's all.

Minnesinger · August 2014

Good campaign. The lead was changed, challenged and finally won. Plenty of drama in the game and forums. Not only in this thread but along the way. Looks like Wabba was the populated server. Honor to the players who made this interesting campaign. Thanks for this game. Looking forward to the next one.

Renuo · August 2014

krayiss wrote: »

@Renuo‌
With EP and DC teaming up trying to dethrone perma it was pretty obvious how outnumbered AD was fighting 2 factions at the same time and still winning with a big lead.
Holding emp for how long we have vs 2 factions shows just how good we are.

Haha how far under the sand is your head right now?

Columba · August 2014

Thanks zenimax developers for playing on ad! Lol. Seriously, congrats

Columba · August 2014

Galrukh wrote: »

Manoekin wrote: »

Bigtuna wrote: »

krayiss wrote: »

@‌bigtuna

AD won through hardwork and determination, not numbers. We held emperor the whole campaign and were the targets of both EP and DC focusing us 24/7 trying to dethrown.

It's a three way war, every faction is the target of the other two opposing factions 24/7. I don't know why you would imply that EP and DC had any sort of alliance. We took advantage of enemy decision making as the situation on the battlefield progressed. End of story. To suggest that DC was in any way attempting to provide any sort of strategic advantage to EP at any point during any campaign is absurd.

You can't deny the Purple Alliance. It's a well known fact that it exists. Stop trying to spread misinformation.

And its a well known fact that AD and DC have a pact and it is also a well known fact that AD and EP have a pact...

I pact fudge.

demonlkojipub19_ESO · August 2014

Already been said, but grats oceanic team. leave for work at my timezone evening (11:30cst) with all pops locked and EP or DC crushing things and some pretty fun pvp going on and coming back around 8 to 9 hours later to low/no ep/dc presense and suddenly ad has emp and most or all of the scrolls.

Graz, the victory is thanks to the off hours team, getting the points while wabba is basically dead.