I laughed a bit reading this. Sounds like your average lonely dude in a bar fishing desperately for attention, dropping bad lines, being ignored and especially by the women. Than gets all butthurt and starts to provoke and insult people instead. Why would it be any different in online games?

I guess he was intruding a private rp event. Now I dont see the fun in "playing" drinking games in a Tarvern, sounds boring and unimaginative. But if others happen to enjoy that aspect of gaming, go ahead. I would certainly not jump in uninvited and try to force myself on people. Basic social skills/common sense, goes a long way. Both in normal bars and online taverns.

Really? I found the opposite of this. I saw a couple of argonians doing some RP near the mud huts in Ebonheart, and I joined in. Eventually we had a whole circle or argonians drinking and chatting with eachother. Me, being the only pure blooded, superior dunmer there, got into a drunk brawl with one of them. it was about a half an hour of unadulterated, pure, enjoyable Role Playing.

These guys probably just didn't want their RP messed with and they decided to ignore you because they saw it as the easiest solution.

nicholaspingasb16_ESO wrote: »

andreasv wrote: »

Wait until you can kill NPCs and the next time you're ignored take out every NPC in the bar. Let's see what an impact an empty bar with a raging / wanted maniac has on their role playing.

^

And see...the trouble is those nice RPers will get that too...won't they...

Thechemicals wrote: »

smeeprocketnub19_ESO wrote: »

Yea I would have started trolling them by using /hammerlow, /bucketsplash etc on them and just jumping around.

However, it seems odd that they all ignored you. (and the comment about girls and drinking is a little off, maybe I am misconstruing what you tried to rp there.) I wonder if we are get a full account of the story...

Yes their were 2 girls at the bar drinking and talking about how much they like to drink and chugging hard alcohol. I walked over (even was in walking mode) and stood next to them and simply said "hi". Later....like 5 minutes later I said "You ladies seem like my kinda drinking partners could I join you"? I was not crass or rude in any way to them.

I can tell you one thing, no women in this world especially in RL MUST talk to every guy that approaches her. Maybe this is hard to understand for some men, but if a women doesn't want to talk to you then maybe because she just doesn't want to?

There is nothing Elitist about that, it happens everywhere every second in this world.

The situation you described is very common in clubs, you go there with a friend to just have a good time and then all the time some guy comes over trying to make conversation. Its just so annoying

Sure some women might just tell you to get lost or call for help, but others will just ignore you and hope you realize yourself that they are not interested.


To Roleplay will feature every type of personality and I believe these two "women" were just not interested in you. I know it can hurt the ego of men, but that's just how it is


Besides that I fully agree with what @Eliisra said!

Sometimes, people are wrapped up talking with their friends and aren't really interested in making a new one right that moment. You'll notice the same thing in non-virtual bars, too.

It's not something to get upset about. People aren't universally friendly to everyone all the time.

RPers creep me out.

I've only joined in one two RP's so far, both were quite fun. The first one I got into a bar fight with an Orc. I won because I intimidated him by jumping on the table naked doing /kowtow.

The second was another bar one, where some guy was white knighting a girl so my friend and I challenged him to duel. He called his friend over and we both went WW which scared them off.

But don't give up, there are always arrogant people in every game who think to highly of themselves to 'associate themselves with lessers'. Just /lol at them and leave.

Thechemicals wrote: »

Ive been part of elitist raid guilds and pvp guilds but neither have ever treated me with such disrespect as the role players I encountered on Daggerfall a few nights ago. I thought you Rper's were cool and casual and had fun but man was I wrong. I was so messed up by the whole incident that I have zero desire to ever attempt roleplaying ingame again.

(emphasis mine)

What goes around comes around?


As for RP'ers, they make me uncomfortable as their RP tends to get risqué. If I happen upon them, I immediately vacate the area.

Innocente wrote: »

Well, you guys obviously just don't get it at all.

I would also like to point out that the folks here that would attempt to disrupt a RP event because they could not just jump in and play are EXACTLY the reason RP events are pre-planned and closed to the general public.

The OP would have had better luck getting involved with a RP group if he had actually RPed his rejection and left quietly. He might not have been in that event, that day, but he might have been invited to the guild and been up for a future event.

But, by acting like a spoiled crybaby, he sealed his own fate. As I expect, have most of you!

I'm out.

He was hardly 'crashing' it, since the only thing he actually did was ask "Hi, may I join you?". If you can't even tell him IC'ly (or OOC'ly) that it's a private event and instead just ignore him completely as if he isn't there, then yes, that is bad RP and rude at that. RP is about interaction, and if you really don't want random people joining in, then you shouldn't be in a public tavern in the first place.

This kind of attitude doesn't do roleplayers any favors at all, and it's part of the reason why we have the bad reputation that we currently do.

Also, he has stated that he hasn't RP'd before, and wasn't going to, until he saw some people RP and thought it would be fun to join in. People make up all these rules and regulations when it comes to roleplay (and a lot of them are utterly ridiculous at that), how is a newcomer supposed to know all of that? You can't expect him to, and he shouldn't have to read a whole rule book first before being able to join in. All that happened is, is that the OP got a bad first impression, and doesn't want to try again. Another potential roleplayer lost. He wasn't being rude, he wasn't crashing anything (intentionally). They should have at least acknowledged him. Pretending like your environment doesn't exist is not good roleplay, no matter what you say.

I dunno about this particular situation, but today I was RPing with a couple others and a new guy walked over and started mentioning watching. We responded, and then sat down after a bit, and we tried to send him a few tells, but none of them would go through. 2 of us tried and it was just non responsive, but we could still see him talking in /say, so not sure what that was about. It's possible they were sending you tells but you weren't receiving them and vice versa.

Innocente wrote: »

Sadly, the OP does not understand what RP is all about, nor how most RP events are organized. In almost all cases, you just cannot 'jump in'. Most RP events will be on their own custom channel / VOIP so they will not even hear you. If you want to RP, get in a RP guild and get involved.

And stop crying like a baby; unless that is what you are currently roleplaying as!

Innocente, that comes over as an appalling attitude.
And what you are describing is not rp in the full sense but rather is semi-scripted acting out of parts.
Roleplay means to be in-character and deal with the world.


The very least one can do in such a situation as the group in the OP is to send an OOC tell saying that the group is roleplaying privately.

The next best thing would be to say in character, "Go away, this is a private party." Perhaps emote turning one's back on them (but send an OOC tell to say that it's not OOC rudeness but rather that the characters are ignoring him).

Best of all would be to try to include them in the ongoing rp, which is most often achievable with a bit of effort, and can then lead on to more rp (and potentially a new convert to roleplaying!)


Bringing in new roleplayers to the fold is exciting, fun and needed. Otherwise, who will we play with when current people leave the game for all the myriad rl reasons that happen?


There seems to be a growing trend among some roleplayers to have a bubble round their rp, both excluding others and excluding more and more of the game from their rp. They see "RP Events" or "let's rp now" time rather than organically being in character as much as they can.

Personally I will rp with anyone who attempts it. Even if someone has a non-lore name and is naked but is honestly making the attempt then I'll rp with them. We all started somewhere and knew nothing about rp in a formal sense so I give everyone the benefit of the doubt.
And this has often worked out very well, as I have pulled in many non-rpers (even some originally anti-rpers) into the roleplaying camp over the past 11 years. More fun for all concerned (and less griefing ).


I know it is very hard in a group setting to see all the chat going on (and that is why I support chat bubbles) but actively to ignore /tells is very rude.

This type of incident shouldn't reflect on Roleplayers but rather on players period. Behind every avatar is a real person,some are nice some are jerks.
In case they were in fact having some kind of private RP event then they should have picked more private place to do so in the first place and not in a Tavern that is frequented by masses of players. RP in a public setting and you better expect people to get involved. If there really was no chat bug involved and these people just ignored you for showing interest in RP then they are just bad RPers and stunting the growth of the RP community by treating newcomers like crap. There are many good RPers out there so dont take this experience as an example of the standard behavior.
I hope you meet some nice people too. Just like real life,if you want to make freinds you have to weed out all the ****s first. Cheers!