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Would you want mounted combat?

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Edited by CowNRB on August 1, 2014 3:21PM

Would you want mounted combat? 97 votes

Yes
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No
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Maybe
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  • Heishi
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    Yes
    It'd say yes with the stipulation of heavy/light attack only, no skills.
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  • PBpsy
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    No
    With the current systems of the game mounted combat would never reach half the level of quality of the best mounted combat game that was ever made. If it would not be as good as Mount and Blade It would automatically suck bad ,therefore they would be better of spending resources on something the current systems would support nicely.
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  • ers101284b14_ESO
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    Maybe
    Depends on how they get it going. As of right now I don't think it would turn out well, but if they could get it working right it would be awesome.
  • Nestor
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    No
    I vote no. Simply because you can't move your horse around like you need to for combat. A person on foot would have an advantage.

    Horses are for getting from Point A to Point B.
    Edited by Nestor on August 1, 2014 4:04PM
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  • TehMagnus
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    Maybe
    Meh, I don't see that working... They could do a ripoff of Mount & Blade and have an arena where people do that just for lulz with a real lance & a shield, but I don't really see that working well for all the classes in PVP.
  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    No
    No but if there was jousting that would be cool.
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  • Armitas
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    Maybe
    Lotro had good mounted combat but it made sense because of the Rohirrim, it would feel a bit weird here.
    Edited by Armitas on August 1, 2014 3:40PM
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  • Shunravi
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    Yes
    If done correctly, with better controlls and refined combat, absolutely yes.
    If it were just jousting, yes
    If it were simply swinging a sword or shooting a bow while riding... Meh.
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  • Moonshadow66
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    No
    I vote for "No" because I don't want to get my mount hurt, and like someone else wrote already, players on foot have an advantage in combat.
    But it would look funny if there were Guar mounts ;)
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  • rotiferuk
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    No
    Mounted combat would never work in keeps.............
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  • smeeprocketnub19_ESO
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    No
    I just see it being either too powerful or completely irrelevant. Might work better if horses worked like they do in MO. Well, I don't like the three steps movement thing they do, but turning wise, looking from side to side.
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  • ShedsHisTail
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    Maybe
    rotiferuk wrote: »
    Mounted combat would never work in keeps.............


    Yeah, it's almost like being on horse back is a situational advantage.

    I voted, maybe. Would need polearms. :-P
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  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Maybe
    Personally i dont care about it.
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  • Artemiisia
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    Yes
    I would love that, with like a special map that requires mounted horses or something that you need to buy with pvp currency, so it actually becomes an perk for long time players of pvp'ers. maybe even trow in mounted siege as well
  • Holycannoli
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    It probably wouldn't work in this game, especially for those of us who've played Mount & Blade.

    But it could be an interesting perk for stamina builds if they could somehow pull it off. I'm totally against being able to use magic in mounted combat, but weapons are perfect for it. Weapon skills are not designed for it right now but they need a revamp anyway so maybe some can be enabled for use when mounted.
    Edited by Holycannoli on August 1, 2014 5:28PM
  • ShedsHisTail
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    Maybe
    It probably wouldn't work in this game, especially for those of us who've played Mount & Blade.

    But it could be an interesting perk for stamina builds if they could somehow pull it off. I'm totally against being able to use magic in mounted combat, but weapons are perfect for it. Weapon skills are not designed for it right now but they need a revamp anyway so maybe some can be enabled for use when mounted.

    If they implemented it, I'd say they should attach it to your mount.
    It wouldn't be a set of character skills at all, it would be horse skills. Different horses would have different skills, specs, etc.

    Mounted combat (melee) is another one of those things which is heavily romanticized in movies and such. On an actual battlefield, cavalry was useful for the most part in military formations and mass charges that ran through lines of infantry, trampled as much as possible and then got back out. The other purpose they served was to get officers and commands from point A to point B quickly, and to provide an elevated position from whence a commander can view troop movements. A lone horseman caught in the press swinging madly from horse back against the hordes of footmen wasn't terribly effective, in fact he was one thing and one thing only; a target. Most fighters who arrived on horseback would quickly end up on foot; either by choice or by force.

    That said, I'd say mounted combat, if implemented, should revolve around hit and run tactics. The ability to charge, trample and knock down enemies in your path; but not really much in the way of sustained long term combat.

    Could have horse specialization;

    Have your Chargers (light cavalry), specced for speed and trampling and getting away without taking a lot of damage. I could see this being favored by Archer and medium armor finesse-type characters.

    Your Warhorses (Heavy Cavalry) slower, but specced to be a little more robust in a melee; provide CC in the form of kicks and such with a lower chance of being dismounted (heavier armor); maybe give them some more maneuverability via slow strafes and such. Character who used this mount would be the type who could hold their own in a fight if they got pulled down; your tanks and other heavy melee combatants.

    And then your Command Horses which aren't really good in a fight, but rather can be used as platforms to issue battlefield commands (AOE buffs and such) from a distance. Basically, more of a support role. These are the horses your casters might choose.

    All skill use could be based on Horse Stamina which already exists. Horses would get skill points as you level them up and unlock different/upgrade various skills or attributes.

    In any case, the use of a mount would be situational at best and not what you'd choose for long-term combat.
    Edited by ShedsHisTail on August 1, 2014 6:47PM
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  • bgoldbeck21_ESO
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    No
    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.
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  • ShedsHisTail
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    Maybe
    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.

    I would say that, while mounted, you'd have a completely different action bar devoted specifically to "Mount Skills." So nobody would be using class abilities while mounted.
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  • bgoldbeck21_ESO
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    No
    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.

    I would say that, while mounted, you'd have a completely different action bar devoted specifically to "Mount Skills." So nobody would be using class abilities while mounted.

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  • ShedsHisTail
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    Maybe
    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.

    I would say that, while mounted, you'd have a completely different action bar devoted specifically to "Mount Skills." So nobody would be using class abilities while mounted.

    It was a joke :|

    Oh, I know, I just thought it was worth clarifying regardless since I didn't explicitly say that in my previous post.
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  • Holycannoli
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    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.

    I would say that, while mounted, you'd have a completely different action bar devoted specifically to "Mount Skills." So nobody would be using class abilities while mounted.

    I don't want even that. I want stamina builds to be able to effectively fight on horseback, and magicka builds to not. There is no benefit whatsoever to using a stamina build right now, and this is potentially a (fictional) way to help correct that.

    And yes it would screw over a majority of players right now. But I'm really against this magicka - staff - light armor trend, which is a fault of the game design not the players. If you want to be a staff-wielding magic user you're sacrificing the potential to fight effectively on horseback. If you want to be a weapon-wielding stamina user you're sacrificing your ability to fight as effectively on foot (light armor staff builds are so superior it's ridiculous) but you can fight on horseback.

    This is only for Cyrodiil. I don't know how it could work in PvE. And it's only fictional theorycrafting anyway, I don't ever expect to see it.
  • AlexDougherty
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    Maybe
    Depends on how they get it going. As of right now I don't think it would turn out well, but if they could get it working right it would be awesome.

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  • ShedsHisTail
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    Maybe
    If sorcs can blink their horse around, especially no.

    I would say that, while mounted, you'd have a completely different action bar devoted specifically to "Mount Skills." So nobody would be using class abilities while mounted.

    I don't want even that. I want stamina builds to be able to effectively fight on horseback, and magicka builds to not. There is no benefit whatsoever to using a stamina build right now, and this is potentially a (fictional) way to help correct that.

    And yes it would screw over a majority of players right now. But I'm really against this magicka - staff - light armor trend, which is a fault of the game design not the players. If you want to be a staff-wielding magic user you're sacrificing the potential to fight effectively on horseback. If you want to be a weapon-wielding stamina user you're sacrificing your ability to fight as effectively on foot (light armor staff builds are so superior it's ridiculous) but you can fight on horseback.

    This is only for Cyrodiil. I don't know how it could work in PvE. And it's only fictional theorycrafting anyway, I don't ever expect to see it.

    So, what you're saying is, rather than a new cool feature that could be fun for everyone, you'd rather further polarize the game design into either Stamina or Magicka so that any compromise between the two is even less effective?
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  • Beotor
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    No

    My last mounted combat was in Lotro and it was bad and also the lag was terrible
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  • neolewis85
    Yes
    Like others have said yes but only with light and heavy attacks but still keep possibilty of being knocked of horse.
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  • mar1ano1987nrb18_ESO
    Maybe
    Light and heavy attacks only ,sounds good

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  • Chuggernaut
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    No
    Considering your mount can just disappear while riding for no reason, I vote no.
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