Is there enough bank space?

Bleakraven · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Nope, not enough space at all. Take Alchemy, Enchanting and Provisioning and you never have enough space. Ever. On top of that, the bank is shared with all characters! ACK!

CatLover53 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

the lack of bank space and the ridiculous costs are one of the reasons I quit.
don't want to constantly have to make room in bank to Exchange items between ma 3 chars, either. tedious. i hate it.

Cyberdown · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Master Crafter Bank Slots. That is all.

Add one extra level to the passive in crafting that allows you to craft higher level goods. That last (I think it would be 7 total skill points invested) will open up a master crafter tab. All related materials AND gems and enhancement items, and race stones would be able to fit in there..perhaps even crafted items YOU made.

So think you are a blacksmith...your max out the passive investing 7 points being able to craft the highest end goods. Your bank now gets access to master Blacksmith Storage. All your accounts can dump ores, ingots, gems, stones, honing stones whatever into that stash...as well as any items your character with the passive makes...so you want to create a set of weapons for your alts? just stick them there and your characters can pull them out without having to roshambo storage alts.

I know the TES thing was to make it where you couldn't pick up a damn hammer out on the field without using a console command cheat....that doesn't fly in a mmorpg.

This is a quality of life thing where you want people to not be able to handle more than one or two crafts PER ACCOUNT...let alone the biggest facepalm I have given in a while by the intention that no non-combat characters shall exist...

oh as per the price...whatever...ill pay dearly for bank space....its that valuable right now...and I would actually pay real money to be able to no worry about looting that rare provisioning...thinking...ok...what should I delete to make room for this one item that's highly valuable and hard to find?

nicholaspingasb16_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

If you keep what you need and not hoarding there is plenty.

if by level 30 i had a bank filled to the max with mats, items i wanted to decon on my alts, etc. there is something wrong. Not to mention that trophies should take no room.

Khami · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

If you keep what you need and not hoarding there is plenty.

I'm level 50 in all crafts, my enchanter is an alt and holds all the runes, I don't keep those in the bank.

There is not enough space. I have 200 and my bank is always full. I have no room to store items for research. Those must sit on an alt. I have 4 alts that are nothing but bank space.

Khami · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

I haven't spent enough to cap out bank space. whats the cap?

The cap is 240.

JessieColt · July 2014

I think there is enough space, and the price is acceptable, but the set up is not helpfull.

You should have personal bag space, personal bank space, and shared bank space.

Currently there is only Shared Bank Space. I would prefer to see Z split this so that you can buy 100 Personal Bank Space, and up to 50 Shared bank space.

egosumacunnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

An entire mule's inventory is taken up with just the food crafting items. Now you can delete all the low level stuff, but when you start a new character then you have to hope the right things drop or buy it. I like to have it all from a self sufficiency point of view and to make a better experience for subsequent characters by being able to craft all the items he needs as he levels and the cost is minimal as i do it all myself.

Gold should be for buying cool things in the game not a minimal bank upgrade. Short term solution is to make guild bank available from 1 member again. The game does need gold sinks but better ones, the bank gold sink is lazy and as uncreative as the absurd prices NPC's charge for some things. Oh yes i would love to pay 63g each for low level secondary provisioning items. They didn't even bother scaling that.

It's lazy, lazy and lazy.

Grayaxeb14_ESO · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I've never had a real issue with space so far, my wife has had a little more difficulty. I will say it's a little hard early on to acquire enough gold to expand your bank and bag, let alone feed your horse. Especially if you're using all the loot you find to level crafts.

RensDG · July 2014

It isn't that bad that the bank is shared. Want extra space. Make alts you don't play. 110 spaces per alt extra. Ofcours that doesn't really work if you have multiple active characters. But i have one main. I put all my crap items on 1 bank alt. And all my runes on an other alt. When i want to level up my runes. I swap my blacksmith items with the runes. When im done i swap the items back.

Voila.

Welka · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Even if you do all crafts, there's more space than enough.

Welka · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

skeletorz_ESO wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

aletad11_ESO wrote: »

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

If you keep what you need and not hoarding there is plenty.

If you have no interest in crafting, this might be true. As someone with 4 crafting professions going who does not want to have to use alts as banks, it is nowhere near enough. It is also aggravated by extremely long wait times for crafting research, which causes a backup of items that are waiting for future research.

I have all crafting going and still have no problems with bank space. I also do not use mules. You argument does not work for me.

I also have all crafts going on my char and I have space left in my bank with only 140 spaces. And I have no mule

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Pallmor · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

It wouldn't be so bad if we had player housing to store stuff

Logan9a · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Cyberdown wrote: »

Master Crafter Bank Slots. That is all.

Add one extra level to the passive in crafting that allows you to craft higher level goods. That last (I think it would be 7 total skill points invested) will open up a master crafter tab. All related materials AND gems and enhancement items, and race stones would be able to fit in there..perhaps even crafted items YOU made.

So think you are a blacksmith...your max out the passive investing 7 points being able to craft the highest end goods. Your bank now gets access to master Blacksmith Storage. All your accounts can dump ores, ingots, gems, stones, honing stones whatever into that stash...as well as any items your character with the passive makes...so you want to create a set of weapons for your alts? just stick them there and your characters can pull them out without having to roshambo storage alts.

I know the TES thing was to make it where you couldn't pick up a damn hammer out on the field without using a console command cheat....that doesn't fly in a mmorpg.

This is a quality of life thing where you want people to not be able to handle more than one or two crafts PER ACCOUNT...let alone the biggest facepalm I have given in a while by the intention that no non-combat characters shall exist...

oh as per the price...whatever...ill pay dearly for bank space....its that valuable right now...and I would actually pay real money to be able to no worry about looting that rare provisioning...thinking...ok...what should I delete to make room for this one item that's highly valuable and hard to find?

Personally, I'd rather just keep paying it up and up with gold rather than a 'master crafter' allotment. To me, a master crafter is someone who can make the gold to afford such ludicrous bank slot prices.

Hurbster · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I am not in favour of having to spend a fair portion of my time going from one alt to another shuffling items around.

shehieb17_ESO · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

demonlkojipub19_ESO wrote: »

I haven't spent enough to cap out bank space. whats the cap?

110 [via purchase upgrades] + 60 [horse upgrades]

Griminc · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

The original team that built the environment and char design look to have done an amazing job unfortunately everything that followed was not thought out well and seems to have taken the lazy road when a choice had to be made..
And YES playing inventory tetris breaks the immersion.

Artemiisia · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

Artemiisia wrote: »

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you do various crafts, then there isn't enough bank space.

I have all crafts, and a 230 bank space so far, with only 2 alts carrying stuff, get lesser and lesser.

dont hord crap, all my provs mats from lvl 1-3 I have thrown out, and I dont keep like 10 stacks of the same mats either.

With the upcoming rune stacking changes where potency also stack at 100, is just another great thing to clean up bank space with

And you are crafting just for one character, right?

No im crafting with my main for all my alts, and for people in my guilds/zone if they need it

Example I have 600 x cloud mist, but only one stack of each of the other regents, no need to have more with those

look at what you have en bank as well, the stacking feature some times make you have two stack where like example

Salt 63
Salt 45

and you carrying in item bag Salt 56, that means you cant bank it, with simple double click on your salt in item bag.

First you need to drag those two in bank together and then double click, so 3 stacks becomes two.

I at one point notice this "bug" when putting my stuff in the bank in name order

Alphashado · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I don't mind the price. There needs to be gold sinks. But the cap on space should be higher. That or there needs to be some kind of seperate storage for materials like provisioning, alchemy, enchanting, etc.

Animal_Mother · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

I voted for the minority opinion that there is enough bank space, and it's fairly priced. This is why:

1. There was a design option to discourage players from doing every single craft on the same character. You may question this design, but it seems reasonable to me. I personally have 4 crafter characters spanning all crafts in the game, and none have more than 2 crafts. All of my crafting materials are kept in their personal inventories, which are much more cheaply expanded to the current limit through bag space/horse upgrades. When I take out a character for playing, I dump the mats into the bank. They aren't mules because their purpose is not merely more bag space, but each carries their own trash. Provisioning is the most difficult craft in terms of materials, but it's by far the easiest to level, meaning you can forget about low-tier materials early on. Besides, the number of mats are being cut in an upcoming update.

2. Banks are gold sinks. They have been in many MMOs. If you sell some of the loot and don't spend your quest rewards, you can upgrade your bank as you level up (i.e. get access to different materials, etc.). It helps if you don't continuously pay for equipment or repairs (which aren't really needed pre-VR content, although they may help in group dungeons). I'm currently sitting on 100k+ gold and haven't upgraded my bank past 160 because so far it's enough for my needs.

I wouldn't mind being given infinite bag/bank space. But as it is, I don't feel this is detracting me from my playing experience. Instead of increased space, I'd love to see a better UI for bank management, with categories such as those in the Advanced Filters add-on, or the ability to deposit/withdraw multiple items at a time.

So you say the bank and inventory situation is okay because you can just not buy gear, and buy inventory space instead...........

There's really no gear to buy (with gold). Maybe if dyes were available for purchase I'd be in trouble, but there's nothing I can't find or craft with minimal effort.

I would agree that stacking needs to be fixed. Anything a character can buy multiples of should be stackable - glyphs and siege equipment probably account for 20% of my character's backpack.

Artemiisia · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

really hate that my pvp stuff dont stack, this is a true problem for sure.

heinsjb14_ESO wrote: »

I would agree that stacking needs to be fixed. Anything a character can buy multiples of should be stackable - glyphs and siege equipment probably account for 20% of my character's backpack.

daemonios · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Artemiisia wrote: »

really hate that my pvp stuff dont stack, this is a true problem for sure.

heinsjb14_ESO wrote: »

I would agree that stacking needs to be fixed. Anything a character can buy multiples of should be stackable - glyphs and siege equipment probably account for 20% of my character's backpack.

True. Stacking should be fixed in a number of cases such as the PvP items and glyphs already mentioned, but also runes (why do potency runes stack at 20 instead of 100 like any other?).

I'd also like to see a "bag of holding" of sorts to hold memorabilia such as trophies and disguises, without taking up bag/bank space. To be honest, I'd even prefer that this was done via the character bag space, since those trophies are tied to quests the player has completed.

Kvasir Silverpaw · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

definitely not enough space for 1 character, let alone 8

Vunter · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you do various crafts, then there isn't enough bank space.

I guess I'm doing something wrong, since I have only 2 chars (well, 3 actually, but the third has in his inventory only the stuff he picks up) but no inventory problems.
Anyway, one is the crafter the other is for playing.
In the bank i keep armors and weapons for traits, upgrading materials and special motifs style stones. In the crafter inventory i have materials of all the professions for the level of him and the level of my other char.
I have one horse that gives 50 carry capacity and personal inventory of 100 for the crafter, 90 carry capacity and horse fed only for speed for the other.
And I think it's fair.
Oh, and on my "playing char" i keep all the costumes and quest trophies.
Again, i have NO mules.

So people .. Are you keeping materials from level 1 to VR12 or what?

WyndStryke · July 2014

Bank space was a problem in the mid levels, but not at the start or now.

At high level, I had enough horse space to make things easier (6 * 50 = a lot of space), and at low level I didn't have enough junk to fill it up. 3 mains, 3 crafters, and 2 banking mules.

But in the middle levels, before I started to add horse space, things were tough.

As already pointed out by various people in the thread, gold sinks are necessary.

To be honest, I don't really like the stacking inventory system, but it's designed like that for a purpose (to reduce the amount of data stored).

Artemiisia · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

they probably also keeping the items like plumb worms even if they only have 3, for you know, just in case

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

heinsjb14_ESO wrote: »

amm7sb14_ESO wrote: »

daemonios wrote: »

I voted for the minority opinion that there is enough bank space, and it's fairly priced. This is why:

1. There was a design option to discourage players from doing every single craft on the same character. You may question this design, but it seems reasonable to me. I personally have 4 crafter characters spanning all crafts in the game, and none have more than 2 crafts. All of my crafting materials are kept in their personal inventories, which are much more cheaply expanded to the current limit through bag space/horse upgrades. When I take out a character for playing, I dump the mats into the bank. They aren't mules because their purpose is not merely more bag space, but each carries their own trash. Provisioning is the most difficult craft in terms of materials, but it's by far the easiest to level, meaning you can forget about low-tier materials early on. Besides, the number of mats are being cut in an upcoming update.

2. Banks are gold sinks. They have been in many MMOs. If you sell some of the loot and don't spend your quest rewards, you can upgrade your bank as you level up (i.e. get access to different materials, etc.). It helps if you don't continuously pay for equipment or repairs (which aren't really needed pre-VR content, although they may help in group dungeons). I'm currently sitting on 100k+ gold and haven't upgraded my bank past 160 because so far it's enough for my needs.

I wouldn't mind being given infinite bag/bank space. But as it is, I don't feel this is detracting me from my playing experience. Instead of increased space, I'd love to see a better UI for bank management, with categories such as those in the Advanced Filters add-on, or the ability to deposit/withdraw multiple items at a time.

So you say the bank and inventory situation is okay because you can just not buy gear, and buy inventory space instead...........

There's really no gear to buy (with gold). Maybe if dyes were available for purchase I'd be in trouble, but there's nothing I can't find or craft with minimal effort.

I would agree that stacking needs to be fixed. Anything a character can buy multiples of should be stackable - glyphs and siege equipment probably account for 20% of my character's backpack.

And yet, crafting takes more inventory space than just buying a piece of armor.

scarydrew · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I should be able to acquire max bank space by vet 12, or at least near to it, ive never had more than 50k gold let alone a few hundred thousand gold. additionally since bank space is shared between all characters i must keep all materials in the bank regardless of if im only crafting one or two on one character and a few on another etc. given there are 40+ runes for enchanting 10+ of each type of unrefined and 10+ of each type of refined, if i want to hang on to my mats to make stuff for alts, i have to create storage characters, and even then i dont have a ton of extra space. this MUST be fixed

twev · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Artemiisia wrote: »

they probably also keeping the items like plumb worms even if they only have 3, for you know, just in case

If I spend my time out gathering stuff to craft, and I want to save all my trophies, that is time, effort, and subscription that I paid to do that.

Really, what's it to *you* (or any other player) what I decide to save or not?

And if I've gathered stuff to use in crafting while I'm out exploring, what's it you or any other player that I save the stuff I find, instead of requiring me to delete stuff I spent time and effort harvesting, so I can go harvest it again later when I need it?

Really.
I don't care what you save, or why you save it.
Why do you insist that I delete stuff you don't think is worthy?
And you do insist that, by the very nature of insisting that the space and cost is fine, and by extension anyone who doesn't delete stuff like you do is wrong.

Artemiisia · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I dont decide anything you wanna keep tmev, thats all on you.

you just have a maximum of 240 bank space to deal with and mules, nothing more nothing less, its your choice what to put in it.

if you want to hord things, nobody will use and/or u wanna try sell, thats on you again.

So no I dont insist on anything, you just need to learn to deal with what you have and the limitations we all have in this game.

its about making decisions and not just run on auto pilot

so dont put words in my mouth. I just giving you how I do it, take it or leave it. you wont get more space the way u do it, will you?