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What Is The Best Race For Templar

  • AngryNord
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    immovable

    Don't you actually have to be wearing heavy armour for that to have effect?

  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Seravi wrote: »
    Yeah I am sitting here comparing Breton to High Elf on racial skills..ugh. :) I do have a sorcerer I started a few days ago. Maybe I just got bad info but I was using my restro staff to keep it up with destruction staff and was told by guild mates that any healing I do as a sorcerer is on others not myself. Again I haven't looked at it in depth,need to though. I know there are healing abilities with the restro staff and I can't imagine that NONE of them help me while I am helping others stay alive as a sorcerer.

    I was grinding with two templars last night. One was Breton the other Argonian and they rocked! I had so much fun running with them it sort of peaked my interest to try being a templar. :)

    All your heals help yourself except someone ese has for example 70%max life and you have 90% then your heal will hit him. So every heal you cast hits the ally with lowest life. But theres no difference between tmplar and staff skills.
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  • Nox_Aeterna
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    Well , im biased i guess , but i would say breton , which is the one i got.
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  • Seravi
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    Thanks again everyone for all of the info! Maybe it's crazy to try and be this informed about what to pick but my V1 was a total mistake. I made it based on what my starting guild "wanted me to be" not what "I" wanted to be and while she is awesome, it isn't what I wanted. It worked for that guild and how they ran but now that they have jumped ship and left, I am stuck with a character that is spread too thin on many things instead of being focused on a few great things! I know respec is an option but I do hate to part with 15,000 gold coins! :) I will never delete her and will keep moving her through V levels but I always wanted to be a sorcerer or templar.
  • AngryNord
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    Tannakaobi wrote: »
    Yeah but.... Nords are ugly! Honestly, I'd rather look at a Khajiits back side....

    *starts sharpening axe*
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    AngryNord wrote: »
    immovable

    Don't you actually have to be wearing heavy armour for that to have effect?

    Nope i just need heavy armor at lvl 22 it would last longer with heavy armor but 8 seconds cc immune are great too :)
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  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Seravi wrote: »
    Thanks again everyone for all of the info! Maybe it's crazy to try and be this informed about what to pick but my V1 was a total mistake. I made it based on what my starting guild "wanted me to be" not what "I" wanted to be and while she is awesome, it isn't what I wanted. It worked for that guild and how they ran but now that they have jumped ship and left, I am stuck with a character that is spread too thin on many things instead of being focused on a few great things! I know respec is an option but I do hate to part with 15,000 gold coins! :) I will never delete her and will keep moving her through V levels but I always wanted to be a sorcerer or templar.

    Respec will be really cheap the week after the patch :)
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  • Fleymark
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    Seravi wrote: »
    Yeah I am sitting here comparing Breton to High Elf on racial skills..ugh. :) I do have a sorcerer I started a few days ago. Maybe I just got bad info but I was using my restro staff to keep it up with destruction staff and was told by guild mates that any healing I do as a sorcerer is on others not myself. Again I haven't looked at it in depth,need to though. I know there are healing abilities with the restro staff and I can't imagine that NONE of them help me while I am helping others stay alive as a sorcerer.

    I was grinding with two templars last night. One was Breton the other Argonian and they rocked! I had so much fun running with them it sort of peaked my interest to try being a templar. :)

    All your heals help yourself except someone ese has for example 70%max life and you have 90% then your heal will hit him. So every heal you cast hits the ally with lowest life. But theres no difference between tmplar and staff skills.

    There is one templar ability that specifically heals the caster but I still useful staff more, personally, so far. Regardless, I wouldn't base the entire class choice on that one heal, tho, because it seems more of a back up where staff is more the bread and butter.
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Fleymark wrote: »
    Seravi wrote: »
    Yeah I am sitting here comparing Breton to High Elf on racial skills..ugh. :) I do have a sorcerer I started a few days ago. Maybe I just got bad info but I was using my restro staff to keep it up with destruction staff and was told by guild mates that any healing I do as a sorcerer is on others not myself. Again I haven't looked at it in depth,need to though. I know there are healing abilities with the restro staff and I can't imagine that NONE of them help me while I am helping others stay alive as a sorcerer.

    I was grinding with two templars last night. One was Breton the other Argonian and they rocked! I had so much fun running with them it sort of peaked my interest to try being a templar. :)

    All your heals help yourself except someone ese has for example 70%max life and you have 90% then your heal will hit him. So every heal you cast hits the ally with lowest life. But theres no difference between tmplar and staff skills.

    There is one templar ability that specifically heals the caster but I still useful staff more, personally, so far. Regardless, I wouldn't base the entire class choice on that one heal, tho, because it seems more of a back up where staff is more the bread and butter.

    What skill do you mean? Every skill says heals allies (you count as ally too but if there are a lot of allies with low life you wont heal yourself)
    But as a healer i always use honor the dead. Its 1.2k instant heal and if the ally is under 50% it has almost no costs. Plus cleansing ritual is needed against negative effects. And theres no other ultimade in the game that reaches the heal of rite of passage.
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  • Fleymark
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    Healing Ritual....2nd one in the RL line. But you are right, I'm guessing the bonus only applies if you are one of the recipients.

    I agree, for a dedicated healer I, personally, would go templar and I did, but if soloing is the priority with healing as a secondary sorc is worth having a look at. NB too, probably.
    Edited by Fleymark on July 27, 2014 6:10PM
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Fleymark wrote: »
    Healing Ritual....2nd one in the RL line.

    I agree, for a dedicated healer I, personally, would go templar and I did, but if soloing is the priority with healing as a secondary sorc is worth having a look at. NB too, probably.

    Ah well yes but with 1.7 sec casttime its more or less useless.
    Hm soloing is no problem as a templar too. You will have a lot of sustain, cc and damage at the same time. You will just lack some burst damage like sorcs and nb have
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  • theyancey
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    I have found that the Undaunted heal was a good early addition to the skill bar as well.
  • moxiesauce
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    Dark Elf templar :D bonus add magic + stam and increase of fire damage, I play a DW templar though. Dark elf also helps with being a vampire for extra fire resist. AD all the way ;)
  • Seravi
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    So I guess my next question is which is better to use, the two handed weapon or shield and weapon? I have rarely used a two handed weapon but when I did they seem to be quite powerful. :) Or maybe no need for weapons at all just staffs?
  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    Seravi wrote: »
    So I guess my next question is which is better to use, the two handed weapon or shield and weapon? I have rarely used a two handed weapon but when I did they seem to be quite powerful. :) Or maybe no need for weapons at all just staffs?

    Id just use resto staff or you will have a lot of mana problems ;)
    Resto heavy attack restores 10% max magicka
    If you want ou can use another weapon in the second skilline but i figured theres no need :)
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  • dsalter
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    Ecco wrote: »
    The Breton racials offer good support for the Templar and help with the one major weakness attributed to the class: mana. Really, any race will do fine, but if you really want the min/max edge, go Breton.

    actually Altmer do it better with a bonus combat magicka regen AND extra magicka.
    if your going healing tho hands down you go Argonian or Altmer if you prefer not needing to keep your scales moist
    Edited by dsalter on July 27, 2014 8:47PM
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  • theyancey
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    Seravi wrote: »
    So I guess my next question is which is better to use, the two handed weapon or shield and weapon? I have rarely used a two handed weapon but when I did they seem to be quite powerful. :) Or maybe no need for weapons at all just staffs?

    Imperials get a S&B boost. I have one of those. I have several templars. One is a dual wield primary with retro staff secondary, one 2 hand with retro secondary, one retro primary with destro secondary. There is something to be said for having ranged on one bar and melee on the other. I like having a stamina attack or so for when magica runs low. Silver Shards from the fighters guild line is helpful for me. S&B gives you more defense, dual wield more DPS, 2 hand some of both.

    Whatever you choose will change in the near future. Today's OP is tomorrow's nerf baby. It has always been that way in these type games and pro'lly always will. For example, the temp's Biting Jabs used to be my bread and butter before getting the nerf hammer. I went from being boss to being a class looked down on by most. Next month I may be on the rise again. All things change.

  • Springt-Über-Zwerge
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    dsalter wrote: »
    Ecco wrote: »
    The Breton racials offer good support for the Templar and help with the one major weakness attributed to the class: mana. Really, any race will do fine, but if you really want the min/max edge, go Breton.

    actually Altmer do it better with a bonus combat magicka regen AND extra magicka.
    if your going healing tho hands down you go Argonian or Altmer if you prefer not needing to keep your scales moist

    Well actually bretons have 3%less magicka costs so it depenso what youlike better but argonians are notbetter healers than any other race because the healing bonus just affects themselves. Its not more healing done its more healing taken so an argonian would be the better tank because of bonus resistance more life and more healing taken.
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  • Seravi
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    Well I started a Breton. Only level 5 now but having a blast. :) I guess it really depends on what I want out of the character for personal playing style. I prefer ranged attacks vs up close and personal but I have been loving the two handed weapon so far.

    I started getting low on health messing around and was like, "Wait I can heal myself!!" :) I am going to make a restro staff and start using that and think magic vs slice and dice like I am use to.
  • SFBryan18
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    Some of the comments at the beginning of this thread are misleading about what a race is. If any of the races in Tamriel were real, all humans would only be one of them. There is only one human race on planet Earth which is made up of several ethnicities. Nords, Bretons, Imperials, and Redguards are actually different races with different DNA structure, which is why they have different racial abilities.

    If the races of Nirn were here on Earth, they would looks something like this:
    Imperial: Human
    Nord: Neanderthal
    Redguard: Heidelbergensis
    Breton: Alien-Human Hybrid
    Edited by SFBryan18 on July 28, 2014 12:15AM
  • dylanjaygrobbelaarb16_ESO
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    I would say Breton has best passives for Templar. You want to hard cap spell resist. More magics and cheaper spells is necessary because our spells are the most expensive. Make sure to go at least 5 light. I have both heavy and light at 50 with all passives and feel that 5 light at least is much stronger. For PvP that is. I actually prefer heavy while leveling you get hit by way more mele and u don't have passives yet anyway. With Breton light passive I went 5 heavy and 2 light that both had training and they both hit 50 by vet. Another reason to take breton
  • Tosfoy
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    SFBryan18 wrote: »
    Some of the comments at the beginning of this thread are misleading about what a race is. If any of the races in Tamriel were real, all humans would only be one of them. There is only one human race on planet Earth which is made up of several ethnicities. Nords, Bretons, Imperials, and Redguards are actually different races with different DNA structure, which is why they have different racial abilities.

    If the races of Nirn were here on Earth, they would looks something like this:
    Imperial: Human
    Nord: Neanderthal
    Redguard: Heidelbergensis
    Breton: Alien-Human Hybrid

    You're ***.
    Breton are a real human race from earth in europe.
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    AlduinMan wrote: »
    SFBryan18 wrote: »
    Some of the comments at the beginning of this thread are misleading about what a race is. If any of the races in Tamriel were real, all humans would only be one of them. There is only one human race on planet Earth which is made up of several ethnicities. Nords, Bretons, Imperials, and Redguards are actually different races with different DNA structure, which is why they have different racial abilities.

    If the races of Nirn were here on Earth, they would looks something like this:
    Imperial: Human
    Nord: Neanderthal
    Redguard: Heidelbergensis
    Breton: Alien-Human Hybrid

    You're ***.
    Breton are a real human race from earth in europe.
    You necro'd a thread from over a year ago for that? To insult someone on the basis of you not understanding Elder Scrolls lore? Here's a hint for you: Bretons are a hybrid of 2 different species: men and mer. They have mixed blood which eventually bred true. @SFBryan is absolutely correct in his analogy.
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  • Prof_Bawbag
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    I chose a Dunmer. Wish I had opted for a Breton or Altmer after a few days. I kinda regretted it early doors as I was struggling to keep any sort of mana pool. Even chugging potions never really made a difference. Now I'm vet 5 (about vet 6) and have decent gear for my level, I have next to no issues with having enough mana. So yeah, makes no difference in the end. It's just the beginning that sucks.
  • Prof_Bawbag
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    Oops. Didn't realise the thread was ancient.
  • FireCowCommando
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    For templar, as you can clearly see, its a little confusing if one should go Breton, or High Elf.
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