Do you think ESO features (e.g.difficulty) should be decided by the majority of the players?

Rodario · July 2014

No

So, seeing as the majority decided zos should not rely on the majority's opinion for their decisions, does that mean they'll start doing polls before changes?

Guppet · July 2014

No

Do they listen to the majority, which say "don't listen to the majority". For once we are too unified in our opinions.

theyancey · July 2014

The game should be accessible and playable by all but controlled by none.

Loco_Mofo · July 2014

No

No, the VR difficulty change is a perfect example.

Humor · July 2014

Yes

Did majority of players who played Elder Scrolls think; "Hey, wouldn't Elder Scrolls be cool if it was multiplayer?"

This answers your entire question, and any other "logical" reasoning behind people who vote "No".

If majority didn't want it, ESO would not exist. Prove me wrong.

pierceoftheender · July 2014

Yes

I think if you delve into a public dungeon ALONE you should be able to set a difficulty, anything else, NO

nerevarine1138 · July 2014

No

pierceoftheender wrote: »

I think if you delve into a public dungeon ALONE you should be able to set a difficulty, anything else, NO

If you go in to a public dungeon alone, you deserve the lessons that the enemies in there will teach you about being sociable.

Arsenic_Touch · July 2014

Well, they keep making decisions based on a minority, or even a subset of a minority. Let's see what happens when they go in the other direction.

Auralia · July 2014

No

No as I'd be worried that you may end up with a very dumbed down simple game.

Exarch · July 2014

No

I pay for a game made by professional designers, and developers, not a weaponized focus group.

RatsnevE · July 2014

No

No, but I think difficulty should have its range of options decided by ZOS (in this case). No one should be stuck with difficulty they are not comfortable with.

I've tried for the last time to get through a long interesting quest only to come up with yet another frustrating boss I could not deal with. No more--this is the final breaking point. Goodbye!

daemonios · July 2014

No

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Sometimes the majority is right, sometimes the majority is wrong, and sometimes the question is wrong to begin with.

This right here. Couldn't have said it better myself.

TehMagnus · July 2014

No

Sadly, most games that have tried to listen & do EVERYTHING that the community wants end up failing miserably.

Sangeet · July 2014

Yes

I think the majority should decide, that would be very democratic, even if there would be faulty decisions, the majority could then iterate a change to the situation. It just would need an acceptance of constant changes.

I think it would be a very interesting thing to live in a model world like this. It would be a social experiment, which could teach us a lot about our self.

Currently i think that a lot of guys here are indoctrinated that they made think, that the rest of their fellow humans are idiots, and so they would not trust their decision.

I would please you to think about swarm intelligence, and about what social consequences it would have, if we truly would execute democratic votes in our virtual world, i personally think that humans would grow more aware of their decisions, and would grow to think more about their world, and therefore make better decisions.

I think the top down approach is something what let most companies fail today on very shortsighted decisions, which are done only on the aspect of shareholder value.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · July 2014

No

it was decided by the players and now veteran rank is cakewalk easy and boring -_-

MongooseOne · July 2014

No

Television is done like that and look what the majority of that has turned into....

Mondo · July 2014

No

If we decide all will go easy vanilla mode with Ultra Gear for Everybody dropping from Trashmobs! And heavy Armour will look like Dessous (i have no Problem with that)

Probitas · July 2014

No

Mob mentality is always of LOW IQ.

steveb16_ESO46 · July 2014

No

Like everything else it'll be decided by Zenimax deciding how to make the most money. Nothing said on these forums by players cause anything to happen. That's not how businesses work.

They didn't just tear up half the game for any reason other than things were going pear-shaped.

Sangeet · July 2014

Yes

MongooseOne wrote: »

Television is done like that and look what the majority of that has turned into....

That is not the truth, TV is decided by the program directors, and they make their decisions based on how much quota they get from 20.000 set top boxes. The most boxes that record a certain program, will get more time windows to broadcast, the idea behind is that the quota determines the worth of for advertising spots.

I personally think that this is still a form of representative democratic solution, as they say that there is some accuracy when the sample of the population cast a vote, there is some truth in it. I doubt that accuracy, because it depends on which geographic regions you ask your questions.

Example: If you ask how many heavy metal listeners are in the population, you would get a complete different demographic answer when you ask in the Ruhrgebiet region of Germany, compared to the region of Bavaria in Germany. It has completely different subcultures.
To have accurate answers, you could ask each individual from the ingame client:
set difficulty to normal, or set difficulty to hard mode, and then see what the answer would be, what the real truth is. You could also show the voter what the % of his voting would be.

Sangeet · July 2014

Yes

Probitas wrote: »

Mob mentality is always of LOW IQ.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swarm_intelligence

gurluasb16_ESO · July 2014

No

Player collectives are not good designers. Just look at how Runescape keeps making bad decisions all the time due to their "power to the players" thing.

Navuri · July 2014

No

No, because the majority of the players are idiots.

Rune_Relic · July 2014

Zeni should listen to feedback....and then ask the questions.
Our opinion on those questions should help Zeni decide whats best.

So no Zeni should dictate but we should offer guidance/opinion.
That way Zeni can work in an informed manor rather than blinkered and keep evryone happy.
Pretty much what they do more of now but I would prefer Zeni spending a lot more time gauging public opinion.
It is after all built to satisfy the community and a happy community pays the bills.

Perhaps ESO community leaders should help with that ? But they dont always reflect the views of the community. So voting is better.

Uisi · July 2014

No

MMO(RPG)S are not a democratic environment. The features and the future of a MMO are not decided through a vote procedure. This is a industry, a business that is ruled by market law.

VagabondAngel · July 2014

No

"A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky, dangerous animals and you know it."

-Agent K

Xeres14 · July 2014

No

Noooooooooooooo.

1. Who is the majority? The forum goers are usually a VAST minority of the overall player base.

2. Just because a lot of people like it doesn't mean it's a good idea. I give you the Macarena as an example.

3. No matter what the devs do there's still going to be a lot of DOOOOM posts here. You can't please everyone. And if you try to please everyone - you'll alienate everyone in the process.

Trouvo · July 2014

No

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Kos wrote: »

nerevarine1138 wrote: »

Most people are idiots. Ergo, most players are too.

I dont think most players are idiots, we don'tknow that. Please refrain from insulting others and let's have a friendly discussion.

That's not an insult directed at anyone. It's a fact of life. To quote the Citizen Kane of our generation (Men In Black): "A person is smart. People are dumb, panicky dangerous animals and you know it."

Popular acclaim never created good art. Period.

That quote is exactly what I thought of when i saw the poll/thread lol thank you for saving me the time XP

Izzban · July 2014

Yes

This seems like a no-brainer. Management does not direct software to be developed for the minority, but for the majority when there is a clear option between the two.

coryevans_3b14_ESO · July 2014

Not a very good poll.