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Wrothgar & 50+ Zones: Please open up to "all alliances" simultaneously...
Enkil
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Listening to @ZOS_NickKonkle off the record (link), I was so very disappointed to hear him clear up the misconception that while Wrothgar will be accessible to all 3 alliances, there will be three different versions, one for each alliance.
He states the only PvP that will be possible there is against your own faction via the justice system. That's kinda counter-intuitive. This was fine for lower level areas, but can we please get an "all alliance" version of these additional zones you guys are adding to the game??? It's quite immersion breaking for these zones to exist in a vacuum and only be accessible to your faction.
EDIT: After further discussion, I would like to amend my my suggestion.....
Rather than 3 faction-specific versions of each of the 50+ zones, why not 2 versions that are open to all alliances simultaneously, one is PVP-enabled, and the other that is No-PVP?
Also, the Earth Forge, Eyevea and Coldharbor should obviously be faction neutral as they are in the story line.
WIN-WIN!!!
Edited by Enkil on October 17, 2014 10:11AM He states the only PvP that will be possible there is against your own faction via the justice system. That's kinda counter-intuitive. This was fine for lower level areas, but can we please get an "all alliance" version of these additional zones you guys are adding to the game??? It's quite immersion breaking for these zones to exist in a vacuum and only be accessible to your faction.
EDIT: After further discussion, I would like to amend my my suggestion.....
Rather than 3 faction-specific versions of each of the 50+ zones, why not 2 versions that are open to all alliances simultaneously, one is PVP-enabled, and the other that is No-PVP?
Also, the Earth Forge, Eyevea and Coldharbor should obviously be faction neutral as they are in the story line.
WIN-WIN!!!
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Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Plenty?? As in 1?
This suggestion interferes in no way with those that don't like PvP... Some of us like the added danger of being vulnerable to attack while we do our PvE.14 -
Maximis_ESO✭✭✭✭Please don't make it PVP we have a huge place to PVP called Cyrodil.... keep it there. I would rather have them separate.
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LonePirate✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭If the OP listened to that entire Twitch cast, then s/he must be livid over the news that the Imperial City is mostly a PVE zone with very few opportunities for PVP. It's no wonder s/he is wanting PVP in other zones.6 -
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✭Dont mind the lack of PvP, not including justice system stuff.
However the seperate instances/areas for each faction is a complete joke. Yet again they are segregating the community in this game.
Whoever decided this was a good idea needs a kick in the ass! Whats the point of making an MMO when we dont get to see masses of other people?
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✭TBH, Craglorn and beyond should be all Factions in the same zone instance, but no PvP. It would make grouping for non-AE/Burial grinding far easier. I get why they don't bring the Factions together since the concept of ESO is all out Faction war, and why would they play nice in one zone then slaughter each other in the zone next to it. But they could look at it from a different take, that the Factions play nice in Craglorn+ in an effort to continue to rid Tamriel of Molag Bal and the forces of Oblivion. I don't think Wrothgar should be a PvP zone though, sorry.10 -
Syntse✭✭✭✭✭TBH, Craglorn and beyond should be all Factions in the same zone instance, but no PvP. It would make grouping for non-AE/Burial grinding far easier. I get why they don't bring the Factions together since the concept of ESO is all out Faction war, and why would they play nice in one zone then slaughter each other in the zone next to it. But they could look at it from a different take, that the Factions play nice in Craglorn+ in an effort to continue to rid Tamriel of Molag Bal and the forces of Oblivion. I don't think Wrothgar should be a PvP zone though, sorry.
Agree, all faction PvE zones would be nice past the initial faction zones. Yes the alliance war going at the same time would make it a bit ackward. But it would be also nice to group to content with friends who have chosen another faction to play in.Syntse Dominion Khajiit Dragonknight Stamina Tank [50]
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tengri✭✭✭✭✭I was already utterly disappointed that you could not meet ppl from the other alliances in "neutral territory" Coldharbor - not for PvP purpose of course.
After all, everything in the main story lines builds up to an armistice and grand cooperation to smack Mr. Bal in the face... even some prominent NPCs from the other factions are there, too. But not the ppl.
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✭make it accessible to ALL ALLIANCES but as a PVE zone !Edited by Sotha_Sil on July 25, 2014 8:29AMRestoration is a perfectly valid school of magic, and don't let anyone tell you otherwise! - Spells and incantations for those with the talent to cast them!16 -
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✭✭✭✭✭I would like just one zone (or small area) where everyone can meet up on freindly terms. It is hard to have guild events when some of your guild members are always excluded unless they roll alts. The only way to all go on a fishing trip together is to do it in Cyrodiil and agree not to kill each other (and hope no one else does either).
One neutral island - mayeb something about the size of Stros M'Kai - somewhere with shops and fishing spots and maybe some frog races and stuff like that. A few taverns etc. Just a nice place for guilds of all alliances and players of all factions to meet up. Maybe even a little arena where we can all go watch a few fights.Shunrr's Skooma Oasis - The Movie. A housing video like no other ...
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Maulkin✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭make it accessible to ALL ALLIANCES but as a PVE zone !
This is a very common demand by a lot of players and particularly traders. I'm personally fully behind the idea, but I think I can maybe guess ZOS's reasoning for avoiding it.
If only 1 zone opens up to all alliances, that's where EVERYONE that is a vet (which by now is most players) would go.
As a result the load on that particular instance would probably be insane and play havoc with their current megaserver/load-balancing infrastructure.
That's my theory at least, it might be far from the truth.
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Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭TBH, Craglorn and beyond should be all Factions in the same zone instance, but no PvP. It would make grouping for non-AE/Burial grinding far easier. I get why they don't bring the Factions together since the concept of ESO is all out Faction war, and why would they play nice in one zone then slaughter each other in the zone next to it. But they could look at it from a different take, that the Factions play nice in Craglorn+ in an effort to continue to rid Tamriel of Molag Bal and the forces of Oblivion. I don't think Wrothgar should be a PvP zone though, sorry.
Agree, all faction PvE zones would be nice past the initial faction zones. Yes the alliance war going at the same time would make it a bit ackward. But it would be also nice to group to content with friends who have chosen another faction to play in.make it accessible to ALL ALLIANCES but as a PVE zone !
I also agree with this. Coldharbour and Craglorn, and the upcoming Wrothgar and Murkmire, should all be cross-faction PvE zones. These zones are all "Neutral" and have no stance in the war, so should not "restrict" players into faction-designated channels.
From a lore perspective, these regions could all take the stance "we are neutral, there will be no alliance warfare in our land", explaining why PvP between the factions is not possible there.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Apothecy✭✭✭mike.gaziotisb16_ESO wrote: »make it accessible to ALL ALLIANCES but as a PVE zone !
This is a very common demand by a lot of players and particularly traders. I'm personally fully behind the idea, but I think I can maybe guess ZOS's reasoning for avoiding it.
If only 1 zone opens up to all alliances, that's where EVERYONE that is a vet (which by now is most players) would go.
As a result the load on that particular instance would probably be insane and play havoc with their current megaserver/load-balancing infrastructure.
That's my theory at least, it might be far from the truth.
Perhaps if they added enough zones where all factions could meet for PvE, that wouldn't be as huge an issue. It would certainly help for group zones like Craglorn. I have a hard enough time finding players willing to do quests.Main: Imperial -- Nightblade -- LVL 50
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Anastasia✭✭✭✭Listening to @ZOS_NickKonkle off the record, I was so very disappointed to hear him clear up the misconception that while Wrothgar will be accessible to all 3 alliances, there will be three different versions, one for each alliance.
He states the only PvP that will be possible there is against your own faction via the justice system. That's kinda counterintuitive. This was fine for lower level areas, but can we please get a 4th "all alliance" version of these additional zones you guys are adding to the game??? It's quite immersion breaking for these zones to exist in a vacuum and only be accessible to your faction.
Heh, even though some grouping will be able to be done in Wrothgar many, many solo-centric PvE players are looking at Wrothgar as "their/soloers content". So, you asking what you are about PvP having fun with other factions within it instead of being separated is DEF going to garner, err, ire from the soloers, *nods...
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Not necessarily. Soloers may like to see players from other factions running around, in addition to players from their own faction, even if they don't group or quest with them. I include myself in this group.Listening to @ZOS_NickKonkle off the record, I was so very disappointed to hear him clear up the misconception that while Wrothgar will be accessible to all 3 alliances, there will be three different versions, one for each alliance.
He states the only PvP that will be possible there is against your own faction via the justice system. That's kinda counterintuitive. This was fine for lower level areas, but can we please get a 4th "all alliance" version of these additional zones you guys are adding to the game??? It's quite immersion breaking for these zones to exist in a vacuum and only be accessible to your faction.
Heh, even though some grouping will be able to be done in Wrothgar many, many solo-centric PvE players are looking at Wrothgar as "their/soloers content". So, you asking what you are about PvP having fun with other factions within it instead of being separated is DEF going to garner, err, ire from the soloers, *nods...
(Konkle's comment about PvP in Wrothgar is a non-starter I think. You can have a cross-faction Neutral PvE zone that does not have cross-faction PvP, and the Justice system PvP wouldn't be affected in any way.)UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Csub✭✭✭✭✭TBH, Craglorn and beyond should be all Factions in the same zone instance, but no PvP. It would make grouping for non-AE/Burial grinding far easier. I get why they don't bring the Factions together since the concept of ESO is all out Faction war, and why would they play nice in one zone then slaughter each other in the zone next to it. But they could look at it from a different take, that the Factions play nice in Craglorn+ in an effort to continue to rid Tamriel of Molag Bal and the forces of Oblivion. I don't think Wrothgar should be a PvP zone though, sorry.
Agree, all faction PvE zones would be nice past the initial faction zones. Yes the alliance war going at the same time would make it a bit ackward. But it would be also nice to group to content with friends who have chosen another faction to play in.make it accessible to ALL ALLIANCES but as a PVE zone !
I also agree with this. Coldharbour and Craglorn, and the upcoming Wrothgar and Murkmire, should all be cross-faction PvE zones. These zones are all "Neutral" and have no stance in the war, so should not "restrict" players into faction-designated channels.
From a lore perspective, these regions could all take the stance "we are neutral, there will be no alliance warfare in our land", explaining why PvP between the factions is not possible there.
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Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭Rather than three faction specific versions of each of the 50+ zones, why not 2 versions that are open to all alliances simultaneously, one is PVP-enabled, and the other that is NO-PVP? WIN-WIN!!!2 -
gurluasb16_ESO✭✭✭✭I'd like to see it open to all alliances, but I also want no pvp there. I just want to be able to interact with the other alliances outside of Cyrodiil.0
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✭✭I would be fine with multi-faction PvE zones in late game areas.
It would then be the obvious area to implement limited opt in PvP features such as arenas or duelling that would be controllable in a way that open world PvP is not.3 -
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This works too.Rather than three faction specific versions of each of the 50+ zones, why not 2 versions that are open to all alliances simultaneously, one is PVP-enabled, and the other that is NO-PVP? WIN-WIN!!!
In the long run, I'd like to see this happen.
In a shorter time span though, I think cross-faction Neutral PvE in these zones is more viable, as they repeatedly say how they don't want to dilute Cyrodiil with other PvP options.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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✭PVP is in cyrodiil. Not sure why people have not figured this out yet.Force weapon swap to have priority over EVERYTHING. Close enough.
Make stamina builds even with magicka builds.
Disable abilities while holding block.
Give us a REASON to do dungeons more than once.
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you do realise you are at war with them right? in world war 2 american soldiers didnt take a sunday off and go hang with there German buddys and have a few bears, this is war, get used to it .Dont mind the lack of PvP, not including justice system stuff.
However the seperate instances/areas for each faction is a complete joke. Yet again they are segregating the community in this game.
Whoever decided this was a good idea needs a kick in the ass! Whats the point of making an MMO when we dont get to see masses of other people?0 -
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✭✭✭PVP is in cyrodiil. Not sure why people have not figured this out yet.
The PVP in Cyrodiil is largely group PVP whereas those advocating for PVP in other zones do so because they want 1v1 or 1v2 PVP or gankfest opportunities which are fairly infrequent in Cyrodiil, all things considered.3 -
Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭PVP is in cyrodiil. Not sure why people have not figured this out yet.
did u not read the whole "and the other that is No-PVP" part? I totally appreciate & understand that there are players with zero interest in PvP which is why I suggested a version of all 50+ zones entirely for them which allows even interaction amongst the factions (which I abhor) to facilitate guild interaction in a neutral setting.2
