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Would you like to be able to choose to play in World PvP?
Kos
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Would you like to have a choice when logging in whether to play in full PvP environment or "classic" ESO? I think it would be interesting, it would not bind the character to the same realm forever it would just give us a choice so we could give it a try whenever we like.
Edited by Kos on July 24, 2014 12:40PM Would you like to be able to choose to play in World PvP? 133 votes
Yes
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No
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dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Novoted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)16
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Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoI think it would take players out of the war in Cyrodiil which is where PvP is supposed to be focused.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Kos✭✭✭Yesdennissomb16_ESO wrote: »voted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)
This is so unfair, do you think if you voted Yes then the devs would start working on it?3 -
dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nodennissomb16_ESO wrote: »voted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)
This is so unfair, do you think if you voted Yes then the devs would start working on it?
No, I think I answered the poll question with my opinion. One of the reasons I chose this game was the separation of PvE and a PvP dedicated zone11 -
YesVoted yes, because devs are already on it as a part of justice system and that is as much of open world PvP as I'm prepared to have (kill the outlaws but spare me from bloodthirsty schoolkids
"Do you want the book or not? Then go whack some people with Wabbajack!!"1 -
Kos✭✭✭Yes
Of course it is good, but I would like to see how it would be to be able to play in the same world with additional thrill.gamerredaveryub17_ESO wrote: »No because the game is good as is
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Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoNo, because there are plenty of games with more kinds of PvP & I would like the devs to focus their efforts on improving the game they have created not waste time diluting their efforts with features that are not needed.1 -
Kos✭✭✭Yesdennissomb16_ESO wrote: »dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »voted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)
This is so unfair, do you think if you voted Yes then the devs would start working on it?
No, I think I answered the poll question with my opinion. One of the reasons I chose this game was the separation of PvE and a PvP dedicated zone
I must have misunderstood your first answer then, because you said you voted No"not because I don't think there should be a choice (...)" - so I thought your opinion was the opposite from what you have actually voted for. My question was whether you would like to have the choice, and not whether developers should take all resources to creating the world PvP.Edited by Kos on July 24, 2014 12:59PM1 -
Tavore1138✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭NoTo clarify I do not feel the need for this choice to exist in ESO, if I feel the need I will play a game that offers open world PvP. I would rather ESO focuses on being what it is not turning into a 'things from other MMOs that people might fancy' pastiche.3 -
Tabbycat✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭No
That's also the reason the devs originally gave for not having world pvp, even if you had the option to flag your character. There was quite a bit of discussion during beta when players all pondered having world pvp. Most of us didn't mind it as long as we had the option to flag ourselves for non-pvp and that newbie zones and important NPC's (bankers, quest givers etc) could not be killed.
I think the new Justice system will satisfy player's bloodlust for quite some time. And this type of PvP I don't think will detract from the war in Cyrodiil. But anytime you introduce any type of world PvP event, you have to tread carefully so that it doesn't remove too many players from Cyrodiil.Founder and Co-GM of The Psijic Order Guild (NA)
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Kos✭✭✭Yes
That's also the reason the devs originally gave for not having world pvp, even if you had the option to flag your character. There was quite a bit of discussion during beta when players all pondered having world pvp. Most of us didn't mind it as long as we had the option to flag ourselves for non-pvp and that newbie zones and important NPC's (bankers, quest givers etc) could not be killed.
I think the new Justice system will satisfy player's bloodlust for quite some time. And this type of PvP I don't think will detract from the war in Cyrodiil. But anytime you introduce any type of world PvP event, you have to tread carefully so that it doesn't remove too many players from Cyrodiil.
Thanks Tabbycat, I thought of something like this: at logon, you would choose - I play this session in the PvP realm. In other words everyone you meet is flagged for PvP, and they can't "unflag" themselves, not during that session. Then you could log off after a while and play in "classic" ESO too. There would be two parallel realms - classic and PvP.0 -
Falmer✭✭✭✭NoThere is already a huge PVP area to be had in Cyrodiil. The time, resources, and code changes required to produce such 'phase' would be a huge waste. There isn't nearly as many people that would participate in this as you believe.
Almost no one one under V12 would ever use it. It would be a ganker's paradise.
There isn't nearly as many PvP players as people seem to think and if you took ALL of those and spread them over 15 separate zones.... You probably would be lucky to see 1 or 2 of them in a 5 hour span.2 -
dennissomb16_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nodennissomb16_ESO wrote: »dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »voted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)
This is so unfair, do you think if you voted Yes then the devs would start working on it?
No, I think I answered the poll question with my opinion. One of the reasons I chose this game was the separation of PvE and a PvP dedicated zone
I must have misunderstood your first answer then, because you said you voted No"not because I don't think there should be a choice (...)" - so I thought your opinion was the opposite from what you have actually voted for. My question was whether you would like to have the choice, and not whether developers should take all resources to creating the world PvP.
I originally answered the question by relating to this game as it is (hence the developer resources part). If the game was still in development however my answer would be the same. I prefer to support a game developed around separate PvE and PvP like this game and Guild Wars 2, vs a game that has Open world PvP as an option. Hopefully that clarifies my answer better0 -
hk11✭✭✭✭NoNormally I would vote yes, but after reading some of the nerfmongering threads I would have to say no to WPVP in ESO. The class changes come too slow and everyone just wants to nerf everyone down instead of buff classes.Edited by hk11 on July 24, 2014 1:37PM1
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rsciw✭✭✭
That's also the reason the devs originally gave for not having world pvp, even if you had the option to flag your character. There was quite a bit of discussion during beta when players all pondered having world pvp. Most of us didn't mind it as long as we had the option to flag ourselves for non-pvp and that newbie zones and important NPC's (bankers, quest givers etc) could not be killed.
I think the new Justice system will satisfy player's bloodlust for quite some time. And this type of PvP I don't think will detract from the war in Cyrodiil. But anytime you introduce any type of world PvP event, you have to tread carefully so that it doesn't remove too many players from Cyrodiil.
Thanks Tabbycat, I thought of something like this: at logon, you would choose - I play this session in the PvP realm. In other words everyone you meet is flagged for PvP, and they can't "unflag" themselves, not during that session. Then you could log off after a while and play in "classic" ESO too. There would be two parallel realms - classic and PvP.
Wouldn't that require substantial changes in how factions work at the moment?
In no area really other than Cyrodiil and perhaps CH (no idea tbh if Coldharbour is instanced to your faction only or not) do you come across players from other factions. So the only ones you could PvP against all day are those from your own faction, and that seems quite pointless to me. Unless of course you're a criminal, which is something the Justice System introduces?
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Kos✭✭✭Yesdennissomb16_ESO wrote: »dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »dennissomb16_ESO wrote: »voted no, not because I don't think there should be a choice, but because I wouldn't want the developers to spend resources creating, world PvP. I personally like PvP in this game being Cyrodil, and any resources dedicated towards PvP should be in future development around Cyrodil (like the imperial city)
This is so unfair, do you think if you voted Yes then the devs would start working on it?
No, I think I answered the poll question with my opinion. One of the reasons I chose this game was the separation of PvE and a PvP dedicated zone
I must have misunderstood your first answer then, because you said you voted No"not because I don't think there should be a choice (...)" - so I thought your opinion was the opposite from what you have actually voted for. My question was whether you would like to have the choice, and not whether developers should take all resources to creating the world PvP.
I originally answered the question by relating to this game as it is (hence the developer resources part). If the game was still in development however my answer would be the same. I prefer to support a game developed around separate PvE and PvP like this game and Guild Wars 2, vs a game that has Open world PvP as an option. Hopefully that clarifies my answer better
Thanks dennissomb, I also think PvP should be separated from PvE and my idea was not denying that. In fact, there are PvE elements like quests, skyshards etc in Cyrodil so it forces players, even those who don't like PvP to go into Cyrodill (i.e. if they wanted to complete those quests and get skyshards).
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Kos✭✭✭Yes
That's also the reason the devs originally gave for not having world pvp, even if you had the option to flag your character. There was quite a bit of discussion during beta when players all pondered having world pvp. Most of us didn't mind it as long as we had the option to flag ourselves for non-pvp and that newbie zones and important NPC's (bankers, quest givers etc) could not be killed.
I think the new Justice system will satisfy player's bloodlust for quite some time. And this type of PvP I don't think will detract from the war in Cyrodiil. But anytime you introduce any type of world PvP event, you have to tread carefully so that it doesn't remove too many players from Cyrodiil.
Thanks Tabbycat, I thought of something like this: at logon, you would choose - I play this session in the PvP realm. In other words everyone you meet is flagged for PvP, and they can't "unflag" themselves, not during that session. Then you could log off after a while and play in "classic" ESO too. There would be two parallel realms - classic and PvP.
Wouldn't that require substantial changes in how factions work at the moment?
In no area really other than Cyrodiil and perhaps CH (no idea tbh if Coldharbour is instanced to your faction only or not) do you come across players from other factions. So the only ones you could PvP against all day are those from your own faction, and that seems quite pointless to me. Unless of course you're a criminal, which is something the Justice System introduces?
I agree with you, didn't think of that
In fact veteran players from each faction would be in starting zones of other factions so all factions would have to maintain some kind of guard in starting areas etc. That would be mad, but maybe they could be thrown to jail if attacking npcs and cities. It would be a lot of work.
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smeeprocketnub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI would prefer the megaserver was world pvp but sure.Edited by smeeprocketnub19_ESO on July 24, 2014 2:03PMDear Sister, I do not spread rumors, I create them.0 -
indytims_ESO✭✭✭✭NoWorld PVP is unwanted and unnecessary.
A 'world PVP' option would require resources: Zeni manpower, programming, servers, etc. Most importantly it would require time by Zeni to implement, time that could be much better spent working on the game they already have.
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TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNo, I would rather see the devs concentrate on improving PvP in Cyrodiil than making mediocre spread out world PvP further splitting the player base.0 -
NoI almost voted yes, but really it would just amount to griefing. Than i remembered the best PvP i've ever played has been in cyrodil. I love the epicness of it. It feels like a battle with the keep taking, scroll nabbing, and zerg storming. As stated above, work on making cyrodil better. Over all i like it as is though.There is only one god and his name is Death. And there is only one thing we say to Death: “Not today...”
"We read fantasy to find the colors again, I think. To taste strong spices and hear the songs the sirens sang. There is something old and true in fantasy that speaks to something deep within us, to the child who dreamt that one day he would hunt the forests of the night, and feast beneath the hollow hills, and find a love to last forever somewhere south of Oz and north of Shangri-La."
GRRM both0 -
Nox_Aeterna✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoNah , i kept the "No" , better be safe than sorry."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Noi would rather have them spend time on other parts of the game that need fixing, after they have fixed some of the major stuff than they can add more content0 -
BBSooner✭✭✭✭✭
✭NoWorld pvp doesn't make sense within the current confines of the game. If we had EP players questing with AD players, however, I'd say sure.Edited by BBSooner on July 24, 2014 6:10PM0 -
Enkil✭✭✭✭✭
✭YesI'd like all the 50+ zones to have a PvP-enabled all alliance version available.
The game already has channels as part of the megaserver technology. All this would entail is adding one additional channel that is accessible to all alliances simultaneously. Add a "use PvP channel" option, enable the alliance crest to display and that's it.
Doesn't interfere with the play style of those that don't like PvP and wouldn't take some overwhelming amount of effort or resources as some are suggesting.Edited by Enkil on July 25, 2014 5:54AM1
