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PvP is the only reason I play this game.

IKilled007
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For whatever it's worth to Zenimax, I love the PvP system in this game despite all its imbalances, the broken skills, the exploiting and hacking, and the zerg balling. None of that is enough to ruin the fun of PvP in this game for me. But you need to get on a fix for the Macs. This dropping every 20 minutes on the laggy servers and every 40 minutes or so on the lower population servers is becoming intolerable. I will pay to play your game, but only if it is playable. I will stick with this game if you give me a reason to. Fix the coding for the Macs.

Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers). You want to keep us as customers. In fact, given that we use Macs, you can probably charge us twice as much in subscription fees and we'll still pay it (no offense, me, other Mac users). Fix the PvP for Macs. Please.

Edited by IKilled007 on July 21, 2014 1:50PM
The only substitute for victory is overkill.
  • Komma
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    If you have so much money buy a real computer! =p
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  • IKilled007
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    Komma wrote: »
    If you have so much money buy a real computer! =p

    Yeah, I know, and I will be soon. I am coming back to Windows, god help me.
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  • dietlime
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    That is ***. Most of the people I know who only own macs are too illiterate to operate PC's without clicking the fake download buttons that install spyware, and then they're too stupid to install real anti-malware so they need a Mac; security through obscurity. They think "Macs just work" and spend the extra thousand dollars.

    A Mac is not a sign of affluence. If you have to lead or trail something with "no offense but" it's probably offensive.
    Edited by dietlime on July 21, 2014 3:04PM
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  • starlizard70ub17_ESO
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    Komma wrote: »
    If you have so much money buy a real computer! =p

    I wish I could press 3 buttons; agree,awesome and lol for this comment. :smiley:
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  • demonlkojipub19_ESO
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    Why do macs even still exsist....
  • frwinters_ESO
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    Elitist much?

    http://blogs-images.forbes.com/chuckjones/files/2014/04/Windows-XP-share-of-installed-PCs-March-2014-.png

    You 7.69% are probably not much of an immediate concern to garner such a request.
  • SirAndy
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers). You want to keep us as customers. In fact, given that we use Macs, you can probably charge us twice as much in subscription fees and we'll still pay it (no offense, me, other Mac users).
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  • shanersimms_ESO
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    For whatever it's worth to Zenimax, I love the PvP system in this game despite all its imbalances, the broken skills, the exploiting and hacking, and the zerg balling. None of that is enough to ruin the fun of PvP in this game for me. But you need to get on a fix for the Macs. This dropping every 20 minutes on the laggy servers and every 40 minutes or so on the lower population servers is becoming intolerable. I will pay to play your game, but only if it is playable. I will stick with this game if you give me a reason to. Fix the coding for the Macs.

    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers). You want to keep us as customers. In fact, given that we use Macs, you can probably charge us twice as much in subscription fees and we'll still pay it (no offense, me, other Mac users). Fix the PvP for Macs. Please.

    Although the humor is noted, in reality if people can afford a Mac or a PC in general, they can afford the sub fees; so the argument is weak.

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  • bitaken
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    Why do people always insist on making it the age old PC V Mac argument?

    The post is valid - all the while a tad humorous. Why should people who play on a supported platform not get the same quality of service as the rest of the PC users?

    The answer is simple - they should get the same level of service. This is not PC V Mac as much as it is - Supported platform V quality of service.

    Try growing up if you want to take part in a grown up conversation.

    Now..Covert...about that mac....really? :wink:
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  • IKilled007
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    bitaken wrote: »
    Why do people always insist on making it the age old PC V Mac argument?

    The post is valid - all the while a tad humorous. Why should people who play on a supported platform not get the same quality of service as the rest of the PC users?

    The answer is simple - they should get the same level of service. This is not PC V Mac as much as it is - Supported platform V quality of service.

    Try growing up if you want to take part in a grown up conversation.

    Now..Covert...about that mac....really? :wink:

    I know I know. A change is coming, I swear.
    The only substitute for victory is overkill.
  • Durham
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    For whatever it's worth to Zenimax, I love the PvP system in this game despite all its imbalances, the broken skills, the exploiting and hacking, and the zerg balling. None of that is enough to ruin the fun of PvP in this game for me. But you need to get on a fix for the Macs. This dropping every 20 minutes on the laggy servers and every 40 minutes or so on the lower population servers is becoming intolerable. I will pay to play your game, but only if it is playable. I will stick with this game if you give me a reason to. Fix the coding for the Macs.

    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers). You want to keep us as customers. In fact, given that we use Macs, you can probably charge us twice as much in subscription fees and we'll still pay it (no offense, me, other Mac )

    Owning a mac is crazy if you want to computer.. My suggestion get you a mac laptop if you want one that bad.... and build your own PC or buy a gaming system.... MAC is not friendly to the gaming community.. Also most people that PC game are actually older gamers your post about money and mac actually mean little in this market.. I think you confused with iphone vs andriod lol
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  • KBKB
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    Mac are for people who can't seem to STFU about their OS, elitists or people who just don't want to game. I would add the other option but I will save ZOS a forum edit.
  • SBR_QuorTek
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    Uhm... I run on a 4.5k USD PC system and that is without monitors, sound systems and a few other gadgets.

    And I have full freedom with the stuff I want to work with, games to play and other stuff, Mac is limited in those ways.

    So I don't know where the Mac being better is coming in other than put more into a box of limited choices.

    But for those mac users that have problems currently, I really hope your issues get fixed for your cheap macs :p
  • Nox_Aeterna
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    If the game said it would work on mac , then it should , even if i think it is indeed a bad gaming option.

    Personally OP , i would try atleast run the game on windows.
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  • Morticielle
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    For whatever it's worth to Zenimax, I love the PvP system in this game despite all its imbalances, the broken skills, the exploiting and hacking, and the zerg balling. None of that is enough to ruin the fun of PvP in this game for me. But you need to get on a fix for the Macs. This dropping every 20 minutes on the laggy servers and every 40 minutes or so on the lower population servers is becoming intolerable. I will pay to play your game, but only if it is playable. I will stick with this game if you give me a reason to. Fix the coding for the Macs.
    I always was under the impression, that macs (as all other Apple products) are totally superior to all other computing products like PCs, Android devices etc. At least that is was many mac and iThingi users are telling the world over and over again.

    So I really don't understand what your problem is? Maybe the problem is that paying a lot of money for hardware which is actually worth less than half of this price wasn't a good idea at all. The upside of owning a mac is you get to feel empowered, feel creative, feel superior. The downside is that macs are a little bit like divas at the opera, which only do what suits them and never do what others want from them.

    Well, let this be a lesson to you: With every upside comes a downside too.

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    Edited by Morticielle on July 24, 2014 8:02PM
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    Subscription cancelled due to the following facts:

    - Zenimax implements more bugs from patch to patch
    - Zenimax does not care about the increasing instability of the game. People have more and more crashes Fix of memory bug decreased number of crashes considerably
    - Zenimax has still not fully fixed the fps drops they (!) implemented with patch1.2.3
    - Zenimax does nothing to fix the massive ability lags in PvP
    - Zenimax gives more attention to unnecassary 'content' like dyes for armors than fixing issues
    - In patchnotes Zenimax lies about bugs allegedly fixed
    - Zenimax has no plan as to how balance population in Cyrodiil campaigns
    - Support is ineffective and does not even speak in a way one can linguistically understand

  • IKilled007
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    I got TOLD!
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  • bitaken
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Mac are for people who can't seem to STFU about their OS, elitists or people who just don't want to game. I would add the other option but I will save ZOS a forum edit.

    Zeni says the game will run on a mac and that it's a supported platform. Where in his OP does he argue his mac is or should be or could be better than a PC as a gaming platform?



    If the game can be and is supported to be played on a mac then it should run at least as well as on a PC - it doesn't - that's the issue.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on July 24, 2014 11:09PM
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  • KBKB
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    Oh bit have a Valium, Macs traditionally struggle with compatibility with standard programs gaming they are well known to be awful. The OP came across with the "mac users have more money" line which I am really hoping was joking because its an awfully stupid thing to say and big noting yourself on the internet says a lot about your RL. This game struggles to run on Windows so I wouldn't be holding my breath for the Mac OS.

    This wouldn't be the first nor the last program to claim Mac compatibility then run into issues. Fact is people know, if you want to game go with PC its tried and true and 99% of programs work with it. I could not begin to fathom a guess the percentage of programs that work on Mac alone.
    Edited by KBKB on July 24, 2014 10:32PM
  • SBR_QuorTek
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    bitaken wrote: »
    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Mac are for people who can't seem to STFU about their OS, elitists or people who just don't want to game. I would add the other option but I will save ZOS a forum edit.

    Zeni says the game will run on a mac and that it's a supported platform. Where in his OP does he argue his mac is or should be or could be better than a PC as a gaming platform?



    If the game can be and is supported to be played on a mac then it should run at least as well as on a PC - it doesn't - that's the issue.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]

    I do feel for the Mac users, but I don't get it why it should be rated better as a PC is all lol.. yes the game do support Macs, but it doesn't mean that they are any better than PC's, think of the mac like a prestige thing or piece of fashion rather in which PC's can be as well.

    Superiour GFX, am a little but confused, personally I prefere PC's because I can upgrade them in whichever way I want or get them build after my needs and having the same superiour GFX as a Mac if not a couple of times better.

    I did read what the Op typed down, but he is wrong with it being the better option for gaming, even quality wise and I am kind of amused by why it has issues as well since technically that ESO is old... I could buy a Mac and be smock and think I am better than everyone else or I could spend the same money and get a better alternative by putting together a PC as well as faster and more smooth GFX that looks just stunning or even being superiour to a Mac, I could run with a 4K monitor here as it is as well no problem, but the price to pay vs the gain and technical down performance is not worth it just yet for me.

    For an instance looked up the macs and the configurations, some of the prices they charge for components compared to what they really cost is insane 1TB SSD at roughly 1.4k USD for an instance 32GB Ram for a buttload of money as well and it only being at 1600MHz.. could get 32 GB ram working at up to 2400MHz for lesser amount of money.

    The price of the system I configured without any extra programs and the likes was around somewhere between 4 and 5k USD, but compared to what you DO get... it would be more fun to be eccentric and light up cigars with 100 dollar bills, because you are not really getting alot of value for your money compared to how nasty a PC at the same price at todays standards would be compared to that and yet have better looking GFX, and much faster.

    The plus about Mac though is that it is a work station which makes sense for going something alike Mac Pro, for working on stuff, the hardware inside a mac and a pc is the same as well whenever it get to it.

    The solution I chosed was with a 780 nvidia card but overall cost would be able to build a similiar system with two nvidia Titan Blacks in sli which perform quite a bit better and even looking much better as long as buying a good monitor. ;)
    Edited by ZOS_SilviaS on July 24, 2014 11:11PM
  • KBKB
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    Oh jesus I just worked out who the OP is Covert-ops ? I remembered being in a raid with you banging my head on the desk as you waffled in a Texan drawl on about how much money you had and your set up while the rest of sat wondering why you felt the need to tell us this. I hope you never get it working you are the worst kind of person >.<

    Apologies if this isn't you but the names/big noting seems to be matching.
    Edited by KBKB on July 24, 2014 11:14PM
  • IKilled007
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    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Oh jesus I just worked out who the OP is Covert-ops ? I remembered being in a raid with you banging my head on the desk as you waffled in a Texan drawl on about how much money you had and your set up while the rest of sat wondering why you felt the need to tell us this. I hope you never get it working you are the worst kind of person >.<

    Apologies if this isn't you but the names/big noting seems to be matching.

    Texas? Wrong guy.
    The only substitute for victory is overkill.
  • KBKB
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    Black-Bird wrote: »
    Oh jesus I just worked out who the OP is Covert-ops ? I remembered being in a raid with you banging my head on the desk as you waffled in a Texan drawl on about how much money you had and your set up while the rest of sat wondering why you felt the need to tell us this. I hope you never get it working you are the worst kind of person >.<

    Apologies if this isn't you but the names/big noting seems to be matching.

    Texas? Wrong guy.


    Sorry then!
  • Ghenra
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    IKilled007 wrote: »
    For whatever it's worth to Zenimax, I love the PvP system in this game despite all its imbalances, the broken skills, the exploiting and hacking, and the zerg balling. None of that is enough to ruin the fun of PvP in this game for me. But you need to get on a fix for the Macs. This dropping every 20 minutes on the laggy servers and every 40 minutes or so on the lower population servers is becoming intolerable. I will pay to play your game, but only if it is playable. I will stick with this game if you give me a reason to. Fix the coding for the Macs.

    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers). You want to keep us as customers. In fact, given that we use Macs, you can probably charge us twice as much in subscription fees and we'll still pay it (no offense, me, other Mac users). Fix the PvP for Macs. Please.

    I think the same man, this game wihout PvP not exist for me, I hate the *** repetitive PvE for noobs.
  • KleanZlate
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    IKilled007 wrote: »

    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers).

    This is the main reason I hate iCrap users. The attitude! Who the heck do you think you are?! You might as well say you can afford to pay because you're obviously stupid enough to pay more to play on the same hardware as anyone else with poorer performance just to belong to an "elite" group of clueless consumers. Unbelievable!!
  • IKilled007
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    IKilled007 wrote: »

    Remember, people who own Macs generally have money -- we can afford to pay your subscription fees (no offense, PCers).

    This is the main reason I hate iCrap users. The attitude! Who the heck do you think you are?! You might as well say you can afford to pay because you're obviously stupid enough to pay more to play on the same hardware as anyone else with poorer performance just to belong to an "elite" group of clueless consumers. Unbelievable!!

    Dude, I was being silly. See how I insulted us Mac users in the very next sentence?
    The only substitute for victory is overkill.
  • Chalybos
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    ;) Snarky, sarcastic, and apparently over a lot of people's heads.

    That aside, WTF ever made you think you could game on a Mac?!?!?!?!?!? ;)


    * edited because apparently smilies ain't working any better than a Mac. Bam!
    Edited by Chalybos on July 25, 2014 4:46PM
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