First , they lied many times before with these promises they made about the game like , class on tell you your role , play the way you want ...

Second , wait and see it working , maybe you will be able to craft sesonal gear for example , but with some weird mats or maybe it is something totally different.

DeLindsay wrote: »

adamrussell52_ESO wrote: »

I keep hearing that claim but no one ever cites a direct quote. Got a link to it?

^ This.

Nox_Aeterna wrote: »

First , they lied many times before with these promises they made about the game like , class on tell you your role , play the way you want ...

Second , wait and see it working , maybe you will be able to craft sesonal gear for example , but with some weird mats or maybe it is something totally different.

You can in FACT play as you want. Sticks and Skirts being OP right now has nothing to do with ZoS's comment about how to play but the tenacity of Humans to find the most ridiculous type of gear/build/rotation to be the highest possible efficiency.

Also, you MUST be a decent to good level Crafter in order to properly utilize the best gear, aka Trial gear that is BoP and must be improved by YOU. To top that off you wear CRAFTED gear of a high quality to GET that Trial gear. In the vast majority of MMO's crafted gear quality stops at a few welfare epics when you hit level cap and even Expert dungeon drops are superior.

It is their job to balance the game , which they are horrible at , so until they finally do it , yes , they were lying. Lying because they are too incompetent to keep their words true. That simple.

Also , other MMOs got nothing to do with this one , ESO made a promise that it would be different than others and that the best gear would come from crafting. Which is the problem to the OP.

Right now we dont know how it is going to work for sure , maybe it still is , maybe it is equivalent.

So OP has run around with a crafted item set, improved to legendary, with legendary rune from an enchanter and judged it inferior to drops? I highly doubt that because that is some kind of awesome.

Nazon_Katts wrote: »

So crafting's yet again just providing leveling gear and entry-level gear hunting sets, just like most theme-park games out there. After that, you're only needed to improve drops.

But I as a former elder scrolls series player and everybody else of my playergroup I know bought this game exactly for the reason that it was advertised not to be like most theme-park games out there...

As long as the balance of crafted and drop items remains like it is I wouldn't complain. But if again like in most theme-park games out there players getting seal clubbed in PvP only because they dont participate in organized raids I would ask myself why I shouldn't switch to one of these alternatives which is less bugged, more balanced, more mature regarding features and last but not least f2p

In summary I find it the wrong way to make eso more and more a bad copy of the already existing crap out there.

As someone who spent nigh over two months to max out enchanting and clothing both, these days I think that it was largely a waste of time. Most of the playing I like to do revolves around dungeons anyway, and the drops from those areas are far better than anything that can be crafted, mainly because the set bonuses from crafting are a joke in comparison.

Had I known going into the game that all I needed were tempers to improve drops, I would not have spent the time to level the two crafts I did since there are other things far more useful to me now like alchemy and cooking for what I want to do in game.

And btw, the "revamp" promised to echanters was total B S, lol. It's just as much of a pain as before to find the runes you want and, again, bonus enchantments on dropped items have made crafting glyphs fairly irrelevant, sadly.

poodlemasterb16_ESO wrote: »

Soulshine wrote: »

As someone who spent nigh over two months to max out enchanting and clothing both, these days I think that it was largely a waste of time. Most of the playing I like to do revolves around dungeons anyway, and the drops from those areas are far better than anything that can be crafted, mainly because the set bonuses from crafting are a joke in comparison.

Had I known going into the game that all I needed were tempers to improve drops, I would not have spent the time to level the two crafts I did since there are other things far more useful to me now like alchemy and cooking for what I want to do in game.

And btw, the "revamp" promised to echanters was total B S, lol. It's just as much of a pain as before to find the runes you want and, again, bonus enchantments on dropped items have made crafting glyphs fairly irrelevant, sadly.

Well you chose to level the most glacial craft in the game. Provisioning is very easy to level. Alchemy too is not hard at all to level and almost as useful as provisioning. You have a powerful craft there if you have maxed out enchanting.

I am baffled as to why people make claims like that the dropped sets are so much better. What am I missing? I can see the numbers too.

I chose to level what I thought would be most useful - and I had no way of knowing it was a "glacial" craft at the time so blaming me for that is a bit silly. As far as the dropped sets, for my build their bonues and features work far better than I could craft.

You did what you had to do, I'm not judging you. Not everyone will either.

I've chosen not to buy gold and I've stayed true to that, plus in later levels Gold is easy enough to come by.

As the crafts stand now I only have a few issues with their implementation, One of the aspects I loved about Skyrim enchanting was finally earning the points to add double enchants to things, this sort of "stacking" should be possible in a craft line once it has been maxed as a reward for being dedicated to a particular craft. I was completely let down the first time I completed my 8th trait on on the bow and nothing changed, yes when I get the other stuff researched to that level I'll be able to access the higher set bonuses but none of them really stand out for me.

When the game started out there was a good game of selling items you crafted and people being needed to craft certain stuff but lately I've seen those sort of calls die down completely.

I would like to see a system in the vein of the new spellcrafting where you chose a base set (say ashen grip) and then can alter it's basic functionality or choose to combine it with another set bonus. I'm sure there would need to be balances made but being able to stack set bonuses would give crafters a much need boost, imo.

On the flipside, I don't want to the dropped sets to be devalued for the sake of making crafted the best, They should be equal. You can pay gold to have a crafter make it now, or you can put in the grind time to collect it yourself. Every set should be craftable, even if you have to acquire a "focus stone" or some other rare item to keep the sets in line with dropped availability. I don't expect special treatment because I prefer to play the game a particular way, but I also don't want to be penalized or marginalized because the real bread and butter of the game is hidden behind a PvP or PvE grind barrier.