Delith wrote: »

You're very wrong.

Most of the people in this thread are. You guys are going to have a bad time over the next year when the sandbox MMOs start dropping. You really are.

And honestly? I cannot wait. You will see how it feels to have been ignored, like us who enjoyed vanilla UO have been ignored for the past decade, in favor of hand holding gear grinds.

Guess what? They're failing. They'll continue to fail, because everyone has already done this before, and now we're bored.

I have work to do now. Enjoy the thread. But remember: You're wrong. $50 million in donations to Star Citizen is just the tip of the iceberg for how bad people want emergent gameplay and true freedom in a game world. We're just getting started.

Prepare to be killed, looted, cooked, and eaten.

Not hardly.

Really, if the game isn't something that I want to play, I'm not going to be playing. All of the people who want emergent gameplay and true freedom will have to kill, loot, and cannibalize each other.

Those players who don't want to deal with players who want to kill, loot, cook and eat other players will be cheerfully playing a different game.

Seems like too much trouble to implement. Especially since I get the idea that only an extreme few want this...

I would un-sub and leave ESO in a heartbeat if this was implemented.
Ain't nobody got time to constantly re-forge gear because a bunch of sociopaths get their e-peen rigid over stealing dead player's loots.

This idea would practically kill pvp, simply for the fact that once you died the first time you would have to leave pvp and go make some more gear. What fun is pvp if everytime you die, you have to leave pvp and grind out a new set of armor, or hope you had an extra set lying around.

On top of this, since every player's loot in instanced, meaning everyone gets their own loot from kills, either everyone would get the deceased's armor set or they would make it first come first serve so some random prick who fired one arrow at the deceased would likely grab all the loot. There would have to be a lot of drastic changes to the loot systems and kill credit systems in this game before an idea like this could even be considered. Zenimax would either have to make it so that the person who did the most damage gets the loot (which means anyone under v12 may as well give up any hopes on getting loot) or whoever gets the last hit will get the loot and this would of course bring an uprising of kill steals.

I could support this idea if it were given it's own server, but I wouldn't be playing on that server and I don't know anyone who would. As has been mentioned already, a lot of people have very stressful lives and we don't want to come home and try to relax by playing a game which is only going to further stress us. Having mobs of preteens running around jumping players to kill them and steal their loot was something we saw in Runescape and it did not fare well with most players.

Sure, let them add a cyrodil shard with this ruleset. It will be nearly empty, because only a handful of crazies want something like this.

Lyrro wrote: »

This idea would practically kill pvp, simply for the fact that once you died the first time you would have to leave pvp and go make some more gear. What fun is pvp if everytime you die, you have to leave pvp and grind out a new set of armor, or hope you had an extra set lying around.
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Or you could put everything in the bank and play naked using just class spells

Delith,

You are somewhat misinformed as to how things work in ESO. The names you see here in the Forums are not 'Real-ID' names, and generally have no correlation to in-game IDs. So, you are not going to be hunting down anyone here.

In addition, you are not going to bathe in much of anything since the Justice System will be fully optional, and I doubt many will engage in it. This is, after all, a PvE centric game, despite what the huge Cyrodill populations might imply!

Lastly, if you should be so foolish as to flag yourself as a 'Guard', I expect the roaming gangs of VR12 griefers will clean your clock and put an end to your nonsense quite rapidly.

How about we run a RNG every hour of playtime and you have a chance to lose everything you have in your bag?

In all seriousness, most of the gear in the game is bound when using. They consciously implemented that to keep items rare in the game economy. You couldn't allow those to drop without a redesign of the economy system. And if you tried to allow bound items to drop in the PvP instance, there'd be people exploiting that to trade bound gear.

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi
Ugh it's hard to get a constructive comment amongst all this unneccesary rage, over-quoting and ***.
However, if anyone even bothers to sift through it, and goes this far into the thread, what I'd like to see is a consensual 1v1 duel system with full loot, catering to the hardcore, to the adrenaline seekers, or those who want to gamble with their gear. Aye, that would definitely add a spark to PvP.
..Must remember not to play drunk if this comes in! :P All consensual ofc - no harm. At all.

If this was ever implemented , i would fill my inventory with the white 0g loot found on tables etc , put everything thats worth a crap in the bank and run naked through the area just so just for fun

letohatcheeub17_ESO wrote: »

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

Hi
Ugh it's hard to get a constructive comment amongst all this unneccesary rage, over-quoting and ***.
However, if anyone even bothers to sift through it, and goes this far into the thread, what I'd like to see is a consensual 1v1 duel system with full loot, catering to the hardcore, to the adrenaline seekers, or those who want to gamble with their gear. Aye, that would definitely add a spark to PvP.
..Must remember not to play drunk if this comes in! :P All consensual ofc - no harm. At all.

If this was ever implemented , i would fill my inventory with the white 0g loot found on tables etc , put everything thats worth a crap in the bank and run naked through the area just so just for fun

IMHO a totally naked player, full loot server is the way to go

If you really want a full loot server go play Mortal online. It is probably the most difficult and best example of a true PvP sandbox rpgmmo out right now. When its nighttime its dark, using a torch just puts a bull's eye on your back. The PK is so frequent that they should change the name to Naked Online. The game is pretty amazing, but the frustration level for new players is unreal. Sometimes the chat raging is like the 12 year olds in CoD on steroids. Of course that's still pretty freaking hilarious.

Hassgrinsen wrote: »

I would really love to see a "full loot" server,

Go play Darkfall mate.