Thanks for the help and understanding... Enjoy!

RatsnevE · July 2014

I do appreciate the help and understanding some gave me. You may be able to piece together comments I made. Die-hards in general could not understand why I rejected the game's strategy.

I'm going to let ZOS pull the strings--how could I myself possibly influence ZOS for good or bad fixing the balancing issues. All I can do is continue to play the game as far as I can in the fashion I have enjoyed so far. From the beginning my intent was to play one character solo using drops only, no horse, no crafting in the PvE world only. I picked the NB because it represents the closest type class I knew I would enjoy RPing with--not that it was the hardest or weakest class to play.

Right now in VR-3 in EP I feel the NB and PvE are balanced perfectly and the other classes are overpowered. If they are not in fact overpowering in PvP or other PvE areas I have not ventured into is of no concern to me.

Oh, I'm un-bookmarking this thread so reply or not to your hearts content.

Aortick · July 2014

Can you Kite him?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JMkzJPFisFY

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

Curragraigue · July 2014

If I am soloing I usually save tough boss fights for when I know there will be more people on. On the NA server I usually wait for US prime time at night Fri-Sun their time seems the best time to find people on to group with and do boss fights in quests, public and group dungeons.

The other option for grouping is to find a guild that is active at the times you are on and willing to chat and help with PvE fights. There are a few of them out there and they really can help. Also helps to build up a relationship with some people so when it comes time for Craglorn you will be set with a good group that you know.

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

ub17_ESO · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

No sooner do I think I'm making good solo progress with VR-2 in EP when it all goes you know where once again... So my game has stopped once again until solutions are figured out or I give up and just play into a different area of Deshaan.

This situation has happened twice in succession. The first time people showed up to help. The second time I guess I just didn't wait so long. I'm trying to kill Merdyndril in the Plague Bringer quest solo and of course I can't do that as poor NB.

I reached out to Chat help earlier and noticed how quiet chat was. Then I used /help earlier and learned that as a VR-2 AD type I couldn't chat with anyone but other ADs in EP zones. How disappointing is that? I'd have to guess ZOS is trying hard to get me to abandon playing solo. Well, I'll tell you that what will work is I will once again threaten, ***, moan, and grown and quit until something is done about it.

ZOS, if you don't want me playing Solo past getting my soul back at the end of AD just say so and I'm out of here? If I leave now it will only be a $15 loss with a lot of the game being a lot of fun and eventually worth $75. If you want me to hang around just clue me in how much longer and maybe I will? What do you ZOS want me to do?

Hardcore gamers can once again go take a hike--Wait, that may not be a good idea--especially if they know a way of dealing with this situation such as how an AD faction member can attract EP help in PvE?

I would like to see a video of your fight with this boss. I have rarely had any difficulty with any VR bosses in solo content on either my 2h stamina all leather sorc or my destro/restro templar.

Curious story, i'll keep it short. My friend at work plays a NB and was getting owned by manimarco. I asked him if he was interrupting spells or using any CC on him, the answer "not soo much". The next day he came back and told me how easy the fight was once he started paying attention to the boss mechanics.

Please don't take this as a slight...before blaming the game system or your class, consider if you are playing the game as it was intended and capitalizing on the mechanics that are in place.

my 2c apologies for the long read.

Umeil · July 2014

As a NB best is get slow up on bar trap and knockback makes all bosses SOOOO easy

PrinceBoru · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

The next day he came back and told me how easy the fight was once he started paying attention to the boss mechanics..

BINGO!

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

manyrabidrats · July 2014

i feel yer pain (though not having this particular problem)
actually i've decided to run alts to vet until the champion thing is out and functioning. having fun with it too.

Phinix1 · July 2014

Well think about it like this m8. 90% of the game, you play how you want. That's pretty damn good. You can dual wield every group of 2-3 easily. I know, because I DO. Yes, there will be occasional bosses that require a bit of strategy to take down, but that should be kept how it is! You CAN pass the content, and imagine how boring the game would be if every unique and challenging encounter was nerfed to homogeneity like they did when so many people complained about this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y-bdVoyIpfw

I mean come on! The daedra holding our lead fighter's guild warrior prisoner gets basically 1-shot? An entire 20-minute quest leading up to a 5sec battle?

What is the fun in that?!?

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

Phinix1 · July 2014

I just don't think ZOS should continue to make boss fights inconsequential and trivial. By your own admission, it was not challenging after you gave some thought to the mechanics and changed up your strategy a bit. That to me is working as intended for a boss fight.

You can give yourself a head's up going in by making some simply observations:

Is the enemy holding a 2h weapon? Dual wielding? Staff?

Is the enemy in heavy armor? Medium? Light?

These observations alone can tell you more or less what to expect 9 times out of 10 and lets you set up a strategy going in that should guarantee success the first attempt.

Nerfed 1-shot bosses is just boring and disappointing as hell to me.

Anastasia · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

PrinceBoru wrote: »

RatsnevE wrote: »

The next day he came back and told me how easy the fight was once he started paying attention to the boss mechanics..

BINGO!

I didn't say this...ub17_ESO did. Anyway, the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed. It's why I play solo, why I don't craft, and why a couple NPC bugs can take out the PC when a simple battle goes all wrong.

When I end up kiting successfully it isn't because I've understood why DW'ing failed strategically. Even when kiting with numerous light and heavy attacks I'm still largely spamming 1-5 keys though I am more aware of what some of their and the ultimate specific effects do.

It will be interesting to see how far I can go with this simplistic attitude. I'm currently an AD VR-2 and a quarter through Deshann wondering if, as much fun as so many of the quests are, I will put another $15 into the game which will put me at $105 total to see how much further I can get into DC, or just stop? Part of this decision will rest squarely with what ZOS plans to do with PvE and solo gaming in this MMO beyond the 3 alliance areas.

"the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed. It's why I play solo, why I don't craft, and why a couple NPC bugs can take out the PC when a simple battle goes all wrong."

>??????????????????< WHY ARE YOU SUBBED to an MMORPG like TESO may I ask? Aside from if you enjoy the setting of Elder Scrolls of course. Asking sincerely.

Dekkameron · July 2014

Argh! Everytime i fight Doshia i cringe at how stupidly easy it is now. Just this morning in fact i two-shotted her using two handed.

Lyrro · July 2014

At v1 I am, literally, soloing the v1 areas (to include world bosses) with no armor equipped. For those who hate math, 0 armor = 0 armor rating. It saves me gold since I don't like having to pay 1-2k to repair my gear and the game almost feels challenging... almost. The only boss I've had any trouble soloing so far was the boss in the basement of the tower in Crow's Wood, but I think he was a group challenge boss because even with my armor on he would still two to three shot me while I did almost nothing to his health bar.

Dekkameron · July 2014

Lyrro wrote: »

At v1 I am, literally, soloing the v1 areas (to include world bosses) with no armor equipped. For those who hate math, 0 armor = 0 armor rating. It saves me gold since I don't like having to pay 1-2k to repair my gear and the game almost feels challenging... almost. The only boss I've had any trouble soloing so far was the boss in the basement of the tower in Crow's Wood, but I think he was a group challenge boss because even with my armor on he would still two to three shot me while I did almost nothing to his health bar.

Hehe, crows wood is indeed a group dungeon

Hypertionb14_ESO · July 2014

Anastasia wrote: »

RatsnevE wrote: »

PrinceBoru wrote: »

RatsnevE wrote: »

The next day he came back and told me how easy the fight was once he started paying attention to the boss mechanics..

BINGO!

I didn't say this...ub17_ESO did. Anyway, the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed. It's why I play solo, why I don't craft, and why a couple NPC bugs can take out the PC when a simple battle goes all wrong.

When I end up kiting successfully it isn't because I've understood why DW'ing failed strategically. Even when kiting with numerous light and heavy attacks I'm still largely spamming 1-5 keys though I am more aware of what some of their and the ultimate specific effects do.

It will be interesting to see how far I can go with this simplistic attitude. I'm currently an AD VR-2 and a quarter through Deshann wondering if, as much fun as so many of the quests are, I will put another $15 into the game which will put me at $105 total to see how much further I can get into DC, or just stop? Part of this decision will rest squarely with what ZOS plans to do with PvE and solo gaming in this MMO beyond the 3 alliance areas.

"the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed. It's why I play solo, why I don't craft, and why a couple NPC bugs can take out the PC when a simple battle goes all wrong."

>??????????????????< WHY ARE YOU SUBBED to an MMORPG like TESO may I ask? Aside from if you enjoy the setting of Elder Scrolls of course. Asking sincerely.

i agree... you have no real business playing if you actually refuse to learn how to play... Its true of any game...

Its awful of me... but hand-holders like you i absolutely hate....

Put a damm effort into learning to play....

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

Phinix1 · July 2014

Hypertionb14_ESO wrote: »

i agree... you have no real business playing if you actually refuse to learn how to play... Its true of any game...

Its awful of me... but hand-holders like you i absolutely hate....

Put a damm effort into learning to play....

Hate is a strong word, and I don't think anyone should "hate" someone because of how they play a game.

That said, learning to not stand in fire is not being elitist. It is called having a brain.

jeradlub17_ESO · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

No sooner do I think I'm making good solo progress with VR-2 in EP when it all goes you know where once again... So my game has stopped once again until solutions are figured out or I give up and just play into a different area of Deshaan.

This situation has happened twice in succession. The first time people showed up to help. The second time I guess I just didn't wait so long. I'm trying to kill Merdyndril in the Plague Bringer quest solo and of course I can't do that as poor NB.

I reached out to Chat help earlier and noticed how quiet chat was. Then I used /help earlier and learned that as a VR-2 AD type I couldn't chat with anyone but other ADs in EP zones. How disappointing is that? I'd have to guess ZOS is trying hard to get me to abandon playing solo. Well, I'll tell you that what will work is I will once again threaten, ***, moan, and grown and quit until something is done about it.

ZOS, if you don't want me playing Solo past getting my soul back at the end of AD just say so and I'm out of here? If I leave now it will only be a $15 loss with a lot of the game being a lot of fun and eventually worth $75. If you want me to hang around just clue me in how much longer and maybe I will? What do you ZOS want me to do?

Hardcore gamers can once again go take a hike--Wait, that may not be a good idea--especially if they know a way of dealing with this situation such as how an AD faction member can attract EP help in PvE?

Vet stuff is easy now. Especially compared to how it was. If you are complaining now and unable to figure it out you might as well give it up. You don't need people in zone to tell you what to do if none are around.

#1 - Change your build/skill setup. For some bosses you will need to change your method of attack. Make some alterations based on what you see them doing to counter it. You can go back to your normal set up afterwards. Your trouble has nothing to do with being a NB. I have seen some extremely hard to kill NBs in pvp.

#2 - Google is your friend. Don't feel like figuring it out yourself then look for a write up or video.

jeradlub17_ESO · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed.... still largely spamming 1-5 keys though I am more aware of what some of their and the ultimate specific effects do.

It will be interesting to see how far I can go with this simplistic attitude. ... Part of this decision will rest squarely with what ZOS plans to do with PvE and solo gaming in this MMO beyond the 3 alliance areas.

Well at least you are aware that the problem is your attitude towards the game. ZOS can't make pve any simpler than it is without turning into Hello Kitty online. The decision rests with you and whether you choose to actually play a strat game as a strat game without expecting to be spoon fed.

Being unwilling to pay attention to mechanics or strat at all in a strat game is going to kill you every time. Especially when it is to the point of not even being aware of what your abilities do. You don't have to turn it into rocket science or get overly involved with it to at least do enough to win and complete it. At least read what your abilities do and be willing to switch some out for certain encounters that doesn't require alot. There are addons that will also let you save skill setups for aoe vs single target setups for example so you only have to figure it out once then just use it. Other than that if you don't want to figure things out yourself you can use google as I suggested above in the other post.

sajackson · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

Anyway, the bottom line difficulty I have with so many battles is an unwillingness on my part to figure out the mechanics or the strategy needed.

This is a bit of a strange thing to say, it's a bit like someone saying that the main difficulty they have playing space invaders is an unwillingness on their part to figure out how to move the base left and right.

DeLindsay · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

This situation has happened twice in succession. The first time people showed up to help. The second time I guess I just didn't wait so long. I'm trying to kill Merdyndril in the Plague Bringer quest solo and of course I can't do that as poor NB.

I also main as an AD NB. I nerd raged like crazy the FIRST time I faced him as a Medium Armor-ST Bow build, then I thought to myself, dang this is a long "cave" with several pillars I wonder if I can kite him. Sure enough once I actually paid attention to the mechanics of the fight he was VERY EASY. You gotta kite man, simple as that.

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

Rylana · July 2014

Considering how much vet content was nerfed this last patch, the existence of this thread absolutely baffles me.

RatsnevE · July 2014

n/t

DeLindsay · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Considering how much vet content was nerfed this last patch, the existence of this thread absolutely baffles me.

The specific boss the OP is referring to is one of the hardest Quest bosses in the game. Only Manimarco, the Harvester boss (pre-nerf) and the Imperial lady at the end of DC are harder imo. But just like with others, once you learn the mechanic of the fight they really aren't THAT hard, just compared to the faceroll easy the rest of the content is they still SEEM hard.

_subjectnamehere_ · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

No sooner do I think I'm making good solo progress with VR-2 in EP when it all goes you know where once again... So my game has stopped once again until solutions are figured out or I give up and just play into a different area of Deshaan.

This situation has happened twice in succession. The first time people showed up to help. The second time I guess I just didn't wait so long. I'm trying to kill Merdyndril in the Plague Bringer quest solo and of course I can't do that as poor NB.

I reached out to Chat help earlier and noticed how quiet chat was. Then I used /help earlier and learned that as a VR-2 AD type I couldn't chat with anyone but other ADs in EP zones. How disappointing is that? I'd have to guess ZOS is trying hard to get me to abandon playing solo. Well, I'll tell you that what will work is I will once again threaten, ***, moan, and grown and quit until something is done about it.

ZOS, if you don't want me playing Solo past getting my soul back at the end of AD just say so and I'm out of here? If I leave now it will only be a $15 loss with a lot of the game being a lot of fun and eventually worth $75. If you want me to hang around just clue me in how much longer and maybe I will? What do you ZOS want me to do?

Hardcore gamers can once again go take a hike--Wait, that may not be a good idea--especially if they know a way of dealing with this situation such as how an AD faction member can attract EP help in PvE?

To the OP:

The biggest thing I learned while leveling my character (VR and non-VR) is that the boss fights in this game require thought and adaptation...whether or not it is the main quest/guild solo stories or solo-bosses anywhere else. I had to learn to put skill points in key abilities and swap out my bar for each situation. Once I learned to do that, combat became a lot easier and I had less frustration.

Not only that, but I learned a lot about my toon. I learned how to be aware of boss mechanics, evaluate how and why I die so that the next time I can be more prepared, and the importance of potion use (Alchemy).

Finally, I function a lot better in 4-man instanced dungeons, normal and veteran. This gets me added to friends lists, which always helps when you are in a pinch or need some group members.

I am not trying to be mean, so please don't take it that way. This game is indeed intended for the thinking player in my opinion. Hopefully you can find some helpful players in-game to offer some tips when you run into difficult situations.

Please, do not blame ZOS. It is not their fault. They are constantly balancing this game and no one wants them to make it super easy...that would be boring.

Guppet · July 2014

RatsnevE wrote: »

Anastasia wrote: »

>??????????????????< WHY ARE YOU SUBBED to an MMORPG like TESO may I ask? Aside from if you enjoy the setting of Elder Scrolls of course. Asking sincerely.

No asides about it--sorry. I'm subbed for the adventure and the questing in Tamriel. I'm trying to get all the Morrowind, Oblivion, Skyrim, and Tamriel out of ESO I can intuitively get that the MMO...RPG offers me.

You'd be much better off just rolling alts in the other factions, then your problem goes away. You'd be doing 1-50 with mobs that require less tactics.

VR is more challenging, but if you are only in it for quests and story, it's not really suited to you. 1-50 on an alt is.