Is there enough bank space?

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I currently use a guild bank that only two people have access to to store most of my crafting mats. Before that I was in a crafting guild and we pooled our resources. There is no way I could ever have enough space at a feasible cost without doing this, which seems poorly thought out.

At the upper end, 10 slots can cost 85k for bank space. That is ridiculous. You do not earn enough money in this game for that kind of sink.

Economically, steep gold sinks are a bad idea as it is, much less when the income of the average player is low. This game is full of gold sinks. The respec costs alone, for a game that advertises as being play how you want, is absurd.

imo, they encourage people buying gold with these chokepoints.

It's fine to make people pay to get more space, but the current costs are way too high.

xaraan · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I don't see how there isn't enough, but apparently plenty of players disagree. I do every crafting profession and have stacks of mats saved for each tier of level crafting and still have room left over in my bank (at 210 I believe so far) and still have a few more upgrades I could do. I think there is plenty of room.

My biggest belief is simply that: trophies, costumes and maps should not take up inventory space.

babylon · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

NerfEverything wrote: »

ITT: Low level crafters who don't realize inventory management is a staple mechanic of TES games

ITT: people who forget TES games have unlimited storage in houses.

Moonscythe · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

My bank is at default and is full of only mats for woodworking, clothing and enchanting. Since I can't find aspect runes I can't reduce that load. I have a crafter who holds and does all provisioning and alchemy. I can't load my forager with all the runes so the bank is useless for swapping gear. I think 100 gold a slot is too much for low level characters like me. I did buy a pack and that may work for the forager but really, I'm getting really discouraged with enchanting particularly and crafting in general. Maybe my TES experience is holding me back.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

xaraan wrote: »

I don't see how there isn't enough, but apparently plenty of players disagree. I do every crafting profession and have stacks of mats saved for each tier of level crafting and still have room left over in my bank (at 210 I believe so far) and still have a few more upgrades I could do. I think there is plenty of room.

My biggest belief is simply that: trophies, costumes and maps should not take up inventory space.

you must not be max level then, because I have almost 500 slots worth of crafting mats for the various professions.

NerfYou · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I would like to see 1 free crafting material only bank slot for every 5 levels of experience you have in crafting skills. A level 50 skill will give 10 bank slots. It's not much, but it would help.

egosumacunnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

More votes please guys, let's make it something they can't ignore.

Carafina34 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Waves to guildie. Defo the 2nd one. bring back 6 bag-slots and frostweave bags plz! ;p;p

Shagreth · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I currently have a bunch of 'mule' alts just to store items, then again - I'm a bit of a hoarder, plus I plan on mastering all professions, at this point however -- I only hoard the stuff I know that I'm gonna use. More bank space would just make it easier for me, less re-logs etc.

Do *I* need more/cheaper bag space? Definitely. Does the average player? I don't think so. I won't go out of my way asking for more space, if that's their design choice then they should stick with it and stop catering left and right.

Carafina34 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Shagreth wrote: »

I currently have a bunch of 'mule' alts just to store items, then again - I'm a bit of a hoarder, plus I plan on mastering all professions, at this point however -- I only hoard the stuff I know that I'm gonna use. More bank space would just make it easier for me, less re-logs etc.

Do *I* need more/cheaper bag space? Definitely. Does the average player? I don't think so. I won't go out of my way asking for more space, if that's their design choice then they should stick with it and stop catering left and right.

my friend who doesn't really craft (bar armouring) said he felt the only massive issue he has with the game is lack of bag space because he spends so much time bag emptying, even when he try's not to pick stuff up.

So I think this does effect the average player, at least at lower levels.

egosumacunnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Why are some things in this game hard work? The glaring oversights and obvious missed opportunities to not instil confidence in the future of TESO.

cracker81 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I like the bank set up. It makes me think on what is important and not so much.

if you want away around it. Mail system

Tavore1138 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I do 6 crafts and do not find myself overly cramped for bank space when combined with maximum bag apace and a level 50 draft horse.

I could see how it would be a problem if you want to keep souvenirs such as group dungeon trophies, costumes and so on, would be good if they had a special storage for things like that.

NadiusMaximus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

It'd be fine if trophies and vanity items didn't take space and everything stacked correctly.

Logan9a · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I understand that some people say 'throw out the lower level mats, it is part of your inventory management strategy'.

They don't seem to understand that some of us have friends. Friends who sometimes like to come into the game, maybe start an alt and we like being able to make them some things.

This takes up more space.

Sure, if you are crafting just for yourself you can easily manage your inventory. If you are less self centered then you begin to want to keep things to use to make others days nicer.

emilopulos · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I wish there would be no forum at all, as every time when I`m reading it, all I can see is whiners everywhere. And unfortunately, ZOS instead of working on game is actually listening to the whiners, and makes game dumbed down with every patch.

Just to stay on topic - what left me speechless is that so many players believes, that the price ob bank upgrades is not fair ( I assume is to high ) . Obviously, we should all be able to max the bank within at most 3 days. just complete 4-5 quests, and that should be gold required for maxing it.

Does anyone of you, who complains is even bothered with VET zones nerfed to the ground? I doubt it.

Tabbycat · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

It'd be nice to have a separate tab for crafting materials.

I don't see ZOS changing our banks anytime soon.

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Arsenic_Touch wrote: »

It was a design choice for the crafting professions. They allowed you to obtain all crafting professions on one character but limited the bank space on purpose. With that being said you have more than enough space across all your characters to encompass your banking needs. Most of you just want to be lazy about it and not pull items off your alts.

There are addons to list your alts items so you don't even have to swap back and forth searching for that one item you can just open the list know what it's on and go on that character.You can also try post it notes on your desk.

You can also just buy bags for your alts and give them horses and level them for bag space. You can get 51 slots from a horse if you buy the 42k one + 110 slots per character. At 8 characters on your account, that's 1288 slots for your entire account not including the character bank which is 240.

While I wouldn't be opposed to more bank space, the current system is designed that way for a reason and I have no issues with running out of space.

Umm... we shouldn't have to create alts for acceptable inventory space.

Talk about immersion breaking and taking a crap on the RP style of play.

Hoamaii · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I'm only building 2 characters and trying to develop crafting for both: heavy armor, sword and shield + 2H for one, clothing and staves for the other + Alchemy for my Sorcerer and Enchanting for my DK. Both use food too, and both keep searching traits in their crafts.

I use the bank for crafting material and store armor and weapons pieces for trait search (all my searches are up to 16 or 32 days now!..). I also have a mule which helps unload the bank. Each character carries his own food and ingredients - which leaves them roughly 30-50 empty inventory slots for loot.

And I spend an awful lot of time juggling between the 3 (the game's inconsistencies don't help, like my lvl 37 Sorcerer finding VR food ingredients in his zone that my VR can't find for instance...). Today, I litterally spent more time at the banks than I did raiding dungeons or completing quests...

My toons team up to buy bank space but it does cost an arm and a leg!.. I'm glad I did not have to buy horses on top of that. Some 30.000 G for just 10 more slots is crazy, I could buy 100 glyphs to build up my Enchanting with that money!..

I understand the game's need to limit its players tendency to store unnecessary stuff, but the whole thing is madly imbalanced with the wild variety of crafting ingredients. I'd think 1000 or 1500 G per slot would be more appropriate...

(But it's also true it'd be crazy to let players stack up crap in the bank the way we all did in our Skyrim's player houses...)

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

I agree with having a limit on inventory.

I just don't agree that the current limit is acceptable.

Griminc · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Seems to me that on one hand say look at this amazing open ended world which you hardly ever see from throwing stuff out as you don't have the space...
breaks the immersion for me having to juggle the space like a financial planner..
Really why cant i go out to do a quest and be able to focus on the task more??

Hypertionb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

i have seen worse systems.

but honestly i just hate having to play inventory tetris with my various characters in order to have space for everything...

TES games in the past have always had lots of differant storage places...

shiva7663 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

If I'm going to have to play bank tetris all the time, I'd rather just do it from the character selection screen instead of having to log back and forth all the way between characters.

TehMagnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Not enough wayyy not enough. Making money is so difficult too. MAkes me want to create a useless trading guild & just recruit newbies to get that extra space...

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

^ Someone did that tonight, was asking for people to join his guild so he could get a guild bank. lol

Clay109 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Deleted all trophies and costume by fear

daemonios · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I voted for the minority opinion that there is enough bank space, and it's fairly priced. This is why:

1. There was a design option to discourage players from doing every single craft on the same character. You may question this design, but it seems reasonable to me. I personally have 4 crafter characters spanning all crafts in the game, and none have more than 2 crafts. All of my crafting materials are kept in their personal inventories, which are much more cheaply expanded to the current limit through bag space/horse upgrades. When I take out a character for playing, I dump the mats into the bank. They aren't mules because their purpose is not merely more bag space, but each carries their own trash. Provisioning is the most difficult craft in terms of materials, but it's by far the easiest to level, meaning you can forget about low-tier materials early on. Besides, the number of mats are being cut in an upcoming update.

2. Banks are gold sinks. They have been in many MMOs. If you sell some of the loot and don't spend your quest rewards, you can upgrade your bank as you level up (i.e. get access to different materials, etc.). It helps if you don't continuously pay for equipment or repairs (which aren't really needed pre-VR content, although they may help in group dungeons). I'm currently sitting on 100k+ gold and haven't upgraded my bank past 160 because so far it's enough for my needs.

I wouldn't mind being given infinite bag/bank space. But as it is, I don't feel this is detracting me from my playing experience. Instead of increased space, I'd love to see a better UI for bank management, with categories such as those in the Advanced Filters add-on, or the ability to deposit/withdraw multiple items at a time.

shiva7663 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

daemonios wrote: »

Provisioning is the most difficult craft in terms of materials, but it's by far the easiest to level, meaning you can forget about low-tier materials early on.

One reasonable goal in Provisioning is to get to level 28 with as many of your characters as possible, so that they can all get the first hireling perk. That's a reason to keep low-tier materials.

Evergnar · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

For one character there is enough. For 8 characters at different levels needing different materials? No.

amm7sb14_ESO · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

daemonios wrote: »

I voted for the minority opinion that there is enough bank space, and it's fairly priced. This is why:

1. There was a design option to discourage players from doing every single craft on the same character. You may question this design, but it seems reasonable to me. I personally have 4 crafter characters spanning all crafts in the game, and none have more than 2 crafts. All of my crafting materials are kept in their personal inventories, which are much more cheaply expanded to the current limit through bag space/horse upgrades. When I take out a character for playing, I dump the mats into the bank. They aren't mules because their purpose is not merely more bag space, but each carries their own trash. Provisioning is the most difficult craft in terms of materials, but it's by far the easiest to level, meaning you can forget about low-tier materials early on. Besides, the number of mats are being cut in an upcoming update.

2. Banks are gold sinks. They have been in many MMOs. If you sell some of the loot and don't spend your quest rewards, you can upgrade your bank as you level up (i.e. get access to different materials, etc.). It helps if you don't continuously pay for equipment or repairs (which aren't really needed pre-VR content, although they may help in group dungeons). I'm currently sitting on 100k+ gold and haven't upgraded my bank past 160 because so far it's enough for my needs.

I wouldn't mind being given infinite bag/bank space. But as it is, I don't feel this is detracting me from my playing experience. Instead of increased space, I'd love to see a better UI for bank management, with categories such as those in the Advanced Filters add-on, or the ability to deposit/withdraw multiple items at a time.

So you say the bank and inventory situation is okay because you can just not buy gear, and buy inventory space instead...........