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The lesson to be learned

  • Elad13
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    Nhines wrote: »
    We asked would the game be on Steam and they said there were no plans to use Steam. Three months later and it is on Steam. Lesson learned. My future ZOS purchases will now be on a three month delay.

    How are you going to feel when it goes FTP within a year? :wink:

    IDK how are you going to feel when it doesn't?

  • Ojustaboo
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    Heroes Guide was fair imo, they were in limited amounts and I paid early to be certain I got one.

    The dog is a little more iffy to me. It doesn't seem wise to lock your existing player base out from a cool new (practical) pet, but I'm still not gonna lose much sleep over it.

    While I agree, chances are they did some sort of deal with steam where steam gets to offer something exclusive to them.

    Could be we all get a different dog in the coming months ?

    As for the price, it's been a lot less than the sale price at cdkeys for ages.

    Steam sale price £24.99, cdkeys £14.99
  • Mescalamba
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    Do you ever get the idea that these guys are completely out of touch with their customers. "Werewolves have been broken since launch but no one cares about that. Let's make the lights prettier. Classes have broken skills. Irrelevant. Let's fill the containers with crap that can't be deconstructed or sold. We just made the coolest pet. Let's give it away to new customers. What about the old customers? Who cares. We have their money already."

    Despite what you say is probably a bit of truth, there is another point of view and thats "fixing anything which include game mechanics is quite a lot harder then adding some fancy lights".

    Or adding crap stuff into containers, which is also easy without any chance of breaking anything important.

    If they balance or re-design WWs wrong, they will face another storm. If they make them a bit OP, it will be non-stop whine here. I dont envy them really..

    Balancing and fixing game is no way easy, thats why I think it takes such time. Plus people which made this game and ones which are trying to fix it now are most likely not same.. at least given fact that they always break something when trying to fix something else. I think they maybe dont even have deep enough knowledge of their own game.

    Also they have some frog sitting on "fast balancing", which Im not sure if its good or bad, but it causes in players certain feel of "nothing is really improving in balancing of game skills, difficulty or so". Even tho they actually try to change things, just bit too slow and too little for most people liking.
    Edited by Mescalamba on July 18, 2014 4:05PM
    Proud owner of personal vampire and werewolf army (4 werewolves/4 vampires)..

    I'm also using large doses of irony and sarcasm.

    Plus Im mean person, cause I really dont have reason to like you. Or anyone.
  • lecarcajou_ESO
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    I think the one lesson we should all learn today is to never again pre-order anything or buy it when it first comes out. Many of us got the Imperial edition early and if we had waited we would also get the new pet.

    Yes, I really wish I could trade the many hours of entertainment ESO admittedly gave me over the past few months for a goofy-looking virtual mutt.
    "Morally Decentralized."
  • nerevarine1138
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    I think the real lesson here is that today's gamers will complain about anything if they think they might get some kind of compensation.

    People need to grow up.
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    Murray?
  • Ruscthelion
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    To anyone at ZOS that might be reading this thread:

    The excuse that you "don't have the tools" to give existing players the wolfhound sounds like a load of crap to anyone in development, indeed anyone that's had moderate exposure to a database. We know that the ROI is too low, and the real answer is that it's not worth your time.

    I get it.

    I am NOT offended.

    I know that telling the truth would unleash a torrent of tears that would drive the mods of these forums to drink (assuming they don't have alcohol poisoning already), but the marketing pablum that normally gets handed out in these situations is what I find distasteful. Do as you will, but please do not cave into every player demand or spend extra time worrying about people complaining that someone else's pixels aren't as fancy as those belonging to another person.
    Edited by Ruscthelion on July 18, 2014 4:49PM
  • Kaloran
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    To anyone at ZOS that might be reading this thread:

    The excuse that you "don't have the tools" to give existing players the wolfhound sounds like a load of crap to anyone in development, indeed anyone that's had moderate exposure to a database. We know that the ROI is too low, and the real answer is that it's not worth your time.

    I get it.

    I am NOT offended.

    I know that telling the truth would unleash a torrent of tears that would drive the mods of these forums to drink (assuming they don't have alcohol poisoning already), but the marketing pablum that normally gets handed out in these situations is what I find distasteful. Do as you will, but please do not cave into every player demand or spend extra time worrying about people complaining that someone else's pixels aren't as fancy as those belonging to another person.
    Pretty much all of this. The sense of entitlement found in the modern mind is almost as staggering as its reactions to perceived slights.
    Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
  • Miflett
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    Respect and entitlement sure do seem to get mixed up now a days.
  • twev
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    Ok Re-reading my post and it does sound kind of butt-hurt. I didn't really mean it that way. I tend to buy things on impulse and what I meant to say was that I and others like me who buy things right away should take this as a lesson to wait a while and not grab things as soon as they are available. Apologies.

    I was happy playing another game with friends.

    All my friends came here, telling me this was my chance to see what a crummy game the other one was and how a 'proper MMO' was supposed to be played.

    Many of my friends have since left.

    If I'd waited I wouldn't have bought/played this one at all, and by extension I'd never have had that important opportunity to see "how a 'proper MMO' was supposed to be played".

    And I'm almost as alone here as I'd have been if I'd stayed in the other one.
    The problem with society these days is that no one drinks from the skulls of their enemies anymore.
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