Is there enough bank space?

Blackwidow · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

badmojo wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

The only real reality is, if we started with more bank space and each character had a little bank space of their own, nobody would have complained.

In the history of MMOs nobody has ever complained that a MMO gave them too much storage space.

Yet, here people are wanting to keep the bank space small, even though it would only make players happy if we had a little more space.

You keep saying this like it's fact. It's just your assumption of what would have been. It's false, because if inventory wasn't limited I would have complained.

Nobody used the bad U word that makes you cry, badmojo.

Nobody said unlimited. Muhahahaha!!!!

Soloeus · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

At the beginning you don't have enough. It is overpriced after the third purchase onward.

However, there actually is enough bank space. If you get to 140 space, and get a Light Horse up to level 50 on Oats for inventory increase, and buy your BP up 5 times.

Now, if you make some alts, you can buy the first 3 upgrades for under 10k. So for 30k, you can get what, 90 slots? (30 slots per 3 alts). And your main.

Blackwidow · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Soloeus wrote: »

At the beginning you don't have enough. It is overpriced after the third purchase onward.

However, there actually is enough bank space. If you get to 140 space, and get a Light Horse up to level 50 on Oats for inventory increase, and buy your BP up 5 times.

Nope. I have all that and still have two mules.

I'm close, but no cigar.

If each character had 50 spaces for their own junk, that would relieve so much stress off of banking for me.

Soloeus · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

At the beginning you don't have enough. It is overpriced after the third purchase onward.

However, there actually is enough bank space. If you get to 140 space, and get a Light Horse up to level 50 on Oats for inventory increase, and buy your BP up 5 times.

Nope. I have all that and still have two mules.

I'm close, but no cigar.

If each character had 50 spaces for their own junk, that would relieve so much stress off of banking for me.

1. 1 alt for all Race Stones, Treasure Maps and Fishing.

2. 1 alt for all enchanting, only highest level potency, all others.

3. 1 alt for provisioning. You only need one stack of level 5, 20, and 30 recipes to finish a handful of provisioners. From there only keep level V/VI ingredients, see Sous Chef addon for details.

4. 1 alt for all Armor/Weapons you wish to keep safe.

5. 1 alt for all other odds and ends.

You can get them all 3 upgrades, and your main. You can get each an Imperial Edition horse and feed each one 1 Oats a day.

This is how I did it. I admit I do spend an irritating amount of time sorting inventory.

Blackwidow · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Soloeus wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

At the beginning you don't have enough. It is overpriced after the third purchase onward.

However, there actually is enough bank space. If you get to 140 space, and get a Light Horse up to level 50 on Oats for inventory increase, and buy your BP up 5 times.

Nope. I have all that and still have two mules.

I'm close, but no cigar.

If each character had 50 spaces for their own junk, that would relieve so much stress off of banking for me.

1. 1 alt for all Race Stones, Treasure Maps and Fishing.

2. 1 alt for all enchanting, only highest level potency, all others.

3. 1 alt for provisioning. You only need one stack of level 5, 20, and 30 recipes to finish a handful of provisioners. From there only keep level V/VI ingredients, see Sous Chef addon for details.

4. 1 alt for all Armor/Weapons you wish to keep safe.

5. 1 alt for all other odds and ends.

You can get them all 3 upgrades, and your main. You can get each an Imperial Edition horse and feed each one 1 Oats a day.

This is how I did it. I admit I do spend an irritating amount of time sorting inventory.

You are actually telling me how to organize my mules better?

Xenite · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Bank and bag space seems to be the current gold sink to get money out of the economy. Well that and those unlucky enough to not have the free ce horse.

Natjur · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Bank space appears endless (220 slots so far) but the price just gets insane!

Blackwidow · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Xenite wrote: »

Bank and bag space seems to be the current gold sink to get money out of the economy. Well that and those unlucky enough to not have the free ce horse.

I'm all for gold sinks. They can add more gold sinks and still fix the banks.

Hell, just let us keep buying more bank space.

Solved.

TRIP233 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I don't use mules and I don't have a problem with Inventory space or Bank space. I know how to manage my inventory because I only pick things up that I can use. I don't pick up trash. My vet 11 has all the crafting skills. ALL of them.

I don't need to fill my bank or inventory with several different foods. I only use one recipe: Fortified Sweetroll. It Increase Max Health & Magicka by 312 for 1 hour. I have no need or desire to make or collect the other ingredients for the other foods that I will never use.

I only make one potion and that is: Bugloss/Columbine/Mountain Flower - Restores Health, Magicka & Stamina. All others isn't necessary.

After you figure out what you need and don't need Inventory and bank space is very easy to manage. There isn't a problem with bank space there is a problem with people not knowing how to manage it.

For weapon and armor traits I only keep one stack. If it starts to over flow I use them or sell them, (most of the time I use them, no one wants to buy them). The same goes for the improvement material.

I also keep only the rare enchantment mats. the Aspect ruins.

Makkir · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I voted the wrong option and I don't know how to change my vote! Someone HAAAALLPPP!!!!!!

I like Option 1 but only under the current conditions.

Longman · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

My bank-space is at 230 atm. I have (and use) a smith, tailor, alchemist on one char and enchanter, cook on the other. I do use mules most because I have plenty of old armor, rewards, etc. I am keeping. I am using my bank for crafting materials and second armor-sets and I allways have a lack of space in there.

But that is okay. I save my gold to buy new bank-slots and as my bank is getting too full I simply buy some new space. What else should I do with my gold? There is not much ingame that needs a lot of gold. Prices in guild-stores are mostly low and most of the crap I need I don't find there anyway. Repairprices are not that much amy by now I have every motiv in the game. So why should I save gold for something else than bank-space?

KariTR · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

I like the storage system as it is.

There was a bit of micro-management in the early stages of the game, but I haven't had any issues with space for a while now. I see that as a reward for dedicating time to the game and/or a specific character.

I do have one mule, a dedicated trophy collector, who has about 20 spaces filled with those baubles gained as quest rewards. But otherwise, as Trip says, just pick up what you need instead of picking up everything and you will manage fine.

TRIP233 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Longman wrote: »

My bank-space is at 230 atm.

My God! That is a lot of bank space. I have 110 Bank-Space and 110 on my character. I thought that was enough....

TRIP233 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

KariTR wrote: »

I like the storage system as it is.

There was a bit of micro-management in the early stages of the game, but I haven't had any issues with space for a while now. I see that as a reward for dedicating time to the game and/or a specific character.

I do have one mule, a dedicated trophy collector, who has about 20 spaces filled with those baubles gained as quest rewards. But otherwise, as Trip says, just pick up what you need instead of picking up everything and you will manage fine.

I have all of my interesting trophies and unique items in my bank as well.

Vannor · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Don't have a problem with space or price (and have nearly maxxed out every craft) but would love to be able to mail stuff to alts. That would probably be the answer to my only storage moan.

ForTheRealm · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Any engaged crafters definitely need some more space for materials.
Some crafter-dedicate space would be really helpful, e.g. additional bank slots while reaching L50 in crafting skill.

Morvul · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

gettin bank space started is a bit tough, hence my vote for "not enoug space" - meaning the 1-50 experience.

But eventually there is plenty, and the Price needs to be high - no other real gold-shin around

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · July 2014

The issue with using alts as mules...even when you have the addon to let you know where things are (which I do) is that you still have to spend a silly amount of TIME to get the things to and from those alts.

I play three characters who are in spread in levels. So I craft for different levels as I use the stuff also (as opposed to crafting for money.) This causes me to have to keep things sometimes of different levels of mats. So I play for a while..bags full. Go to town and sell items then go and have to remove some items (as my bank is full-i have not yet gotten all available spaces as well..I just don't have all that money. I have extended my bank and all my bags several times) so I can fit items for my mule. Log out/in to said mule (or crafter ideally)...take things out (rinse and repeat as necessary.) Then I get on my crafter...use anything I can and put things back in the bank or mule if there isn't room. Then go put all the initial items back in the bank I took out at the beginning of all this. So now all is again right in the world.

Trust me when I say I don't keep anything I no longer can use (like if my alts are all above a certain crafting level-away it goes.) I don't horde and I don't craft more than 3 things between my alts. If I only had one character I played that only crafted one thing...well then problem solved.

Please don't insult me saying I horde or I am too stupid to know how to manage my inventory. I am a 42 year old woman with three children in a small home. I know more about managing inventory that you can possibly imagine.

I spend too much time I could be enjoying the game moving stuff around. I also like to RP so I keep all those costumes I like. Then there is the pets...and the trophies (especially if they do something neat!)

So if they would let things stack higher, make all pets/costumes/trophy have their own tab (and not count toward the space we get) then I think it would help to alleviate much of the issues without compromising their initial vision. Also I would like to point out..to those who are sticking to this line also. There have been quite a few things that the developers have done (and been part of their vision) that the community has said didn't work or work properly and they have changed in response to the community. Why is this issue any different? I could point to dozens of changes they have made that didn't work initially.

Also if they would make things like provisioning and especially alchemy have levels just with 5 between them (That way you aren't having potions with like 2 or 5 points between them...jsut bump them all out to even levels...level 5 pots, level 10 pots, level 15..etc.) This would help also so you don't have things spread out everywhere.

So you may not agree? You think the bank/bags system is nifty? Bully for you. There is no reason for anyone to get bent out of shape over this.

And as my dearly, departed Mother used to say, "You have the right to be wrong!"

Ok that last bit was a joke. :P

Talrenos · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

egosumacunnus wrote: »

It seems woefully inadequate to me for a pay to play i expect this sort of thing from play to win. I think they got the bank systems reversed and we got the guild bank system and the guilds got the player bank system. It would make more sense that way round. Hours every week spent on mules if you want to do everything, which i do is a joke and the cost, ffs i don't want to spend 750K upgrading my bank i want to spend it on cool stuff in the game. Makes me want to buy gold to reduce the amount of time i am spending shuffling inventory's rather than playing.

ZOS has screwed us with account banks to begin with, and second the drop rate on gold per kill is 1. Yeah, were screwed. Thanks ZOS.

Logan9a · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

In MMO's dedicated to collecting stuff, it often baffles me when

People tell them if they don't have enough space they are collecting too much stuff.

Game companies don't give a whole lot more space to allow people to collect more stuff. After all, if someone wants to be a hoarder, does an extra couple hundred (or even thousand) slots (as a gold sink - like that) really cost the company that much more money? (If you wish to answer 'yes' please provide actual proof rather than just opinions - thanks.)

Artemiisia · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you do various crafts, then there isn't enough bank space.

I have all crafts, and a 230 bank space so far, with only 2 alts carrying stuff, get lesser and lesser.

dont hord crap, all my provs mats from lvl 1-3 I have thrown out, and I dont keep like 10 stacks of the same mats either.

With the upcoming rune stacking changes where potency also stack at 100, is just another great thing to clean up bank space with

kassandratheclericb14_ESO · July 2014

Artemiisia wrote: »

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you do various crafts, then there isn't enough bank space.

I have all crafts, and a 230 bank space so far, with only 2 alts carrying stuff, get lesser and lesser.

dont hord crap, all my provs mats from lvl 1-3 I have thrown out, and I dont keep like 10 stacks of the same mats either.

With the upcoming rune stacking changes where potency also stack at 100, is just another great thing to clean up bank space with

And you are crafting just for one character, right?

Logan9a · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

Just wait until new content comes out. Lots of new stuff then and ode to bank space continues.

stumpy999 · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

No, there is not enough space and it is too expensive

twev · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Artemiisia wrote: »

xsfkxnub19_ESO wrote: »

If you do various crafts, then there isn't enough bank space.

I have all crafts, and a 230 bank space so far, with only 2 alts carrying stuff, get lesser and lesser.

dont hord crap, all my provs mats from lvl 1-3 I have thrown out, and I dont keep like 10 stacks of the same mats either.

With the upcoming rune stacking changes where potency also stack at 100, is just another great thing to clean up bank space with

I play 5 'toons from 3 to 37.
They all need stuff.
I have friends of various lvl, and some of them don't have a clue what they're doing.
So I help them sort it out by helping to equip them when they need it.
And I feed friends.

Just for the sake of argument - what's it to you if I *DO* want to hoard stuff?
In what way is your game altered if I do:

Keep every trophy I earn
Or whether I want to be able to equip every 'toon of my own
Or every friend I have without telling them to come back when they have the mats they need
Or I want to keep a stack of everything?

In what way is your game diminished if I spend my time gathering mats instead of gold, and use the mats to craft stuff I give away instead of selling it for gold?
I spend my time leveling my crafts, and gathering mats. I don't PvP, I don't quest, I don't buy/sell/trade.

But I can't do those things that don't affect you in anyway unless, in addition to buying the game the same as you, and paying a sub the same as you, I also have to earn gold to store stuff that doesn't affect you.

The only reason I have a sub at this point is to do those things above, because thats about all the fun I have in this game.
When at least one of my 'toons hits about 45, and I get cloth and wood from 44 to 50 (all others are 50 but enchant, which I'm writing off when I get from 23 to 25), and I research about 20 more items, I'll probably just move on and let you carry more of the subscription yourself.
It's not like ya'll need me for much, right?

I'm editing this to add:
I completely missed making the point that I do *not* think inv or bank space should be unlimited.
It shouldn't even be huge.
It just needs to be larger, large enough to allow us to carry the extra stuff they sling at us like trophys and pets with no space lost.
Large enough that it's not preferable to make a bunch of alts to spend time logging in/out/in/out, etc.

Just my opinion.
I have lots of opinions.

NerfEverything · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

ITT: Low level crafters who don't realize inventory management is a staple mechanic of TES games

Tarukmockto · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Ahhh, sweet! Another opportunity to argue the same old diametrically opinioned issue again! Great! Carry on bashing each other again.

OrangeTheCat · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

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arena25 · July 2014

There is enough bank space and it is fairly priced.

To me, it is fairly priced and there is enough space, but since I am not as big of a crafter as say, some of the people on the forums, I can definitely see your argument.

And remember, there is always inventory space upgrade.

egosumacunnus · July 2014

There is not enough bank space and it is unfairly priced.

Bumping till Dev response.

Oh yeah and trophy's, some of them are quite fun but i am not wasting the bank space on them which is a shame and wasting gold on inventory space for mules. It is stupid. It is not fun. It is crap. Zos seem to be going out of their way to make the game hard work.