Dawnbreaker NA - Reloaded

bitaken · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

Why AD is coming hard AT DC tonight is beyond me. I mean I get that we have tons of stuff and are an easy target - but - we're not gonna take all your stuff while you're sleeping.

I actually slept this evening so I could be up overnight to try to coordinate defense vs red night capping so I dont know specifics, but looking at the map it appears to me we came after our scroll and have been doing our usual daily emp push. I dont think its anything personal mate.

Well, it might not be anything personal but my group was punishing EP @ Kings, Chal, and they were making zero progress getting out of their starter area...and AD just came up our backside. I know its a three way war and all - and you guys want your stuff back - but without you guys giving EP a free pass and slipping it in nice and slow on DC - we could have had them held down all night.

So...game on!

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

I think I'll just leave this here. (Oh, that clock is central time, btw.)

runagate · July 2014

Odd, given that it's AD that's nightcapping at 2:30 AM CST (whereas I'm camped out in their siege training area after passing east to west across the entire southern half of Cyrodiil looking for alchemy mats, and encountering not one single other player.

GRxKnight · July 2014

If EP wants to say that nightcapping is fair game then we're gonna do it. We don't like it but we're forced into doing this so that we don't have to dethrone trash emps the next morning

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

GRxKnight wrote: »

If EP wants to say that nightcapping is fair game then we're gonna do it. We don't like it but we're forced into doing this so that we don't have to dethrone trash emps the next morning

So, stopping EP from night capping involves taking blue scrolls at 3:15am central time?

FYI, this happened after we wiped their entire zerg at Chalman. I'm assuming they got a mite upset and went for something they could take.

Rylana · July 2014

I wouldnt pat yourself on the back too hard there Agrippa, you are turtled in the most defensively postured keep on the entire map with about 2 full raids worth of people.

Implying that could even BE taken right now is a little silly.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

I wouldnt pat yourself on the back too hard there Agrippa, you are turtled in the most defensively postured keep on the entire map with about 2 full raids worth of people.

Implying that could even BE taken right now is a little silly.

lolwut? I understand shield counting can be kind of hard in the midst of battle, but that is not correct.

Also, too, the most defensible keep on the map is Ft. Ash, imo. Chalman's a close second, but Ash is superior.

Avidus · July 2014

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.
DC - Zergballs until they wipe, then they mysteriously disappear and claim they had nobody online from the start.
AD - Pop-lock like crazy but achieve absolutely nothing until some mysterious force teaches them how to use a map, then they actually do something.
But as soon as its done, they call it a night and discredit anybody who does anything when they are not online as 'nightcapping'

Let me also say this:
Every single player on this campaign Night Caps.
Because its always night time somewhere.
I am an oceanic player and I usually play at the lower end of things, however sometimes, provided I don't have to work. I will stay online for peak times.

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.
DC are least populated, but work together better as a whole. But are only active provided they are winning.
AD are Highest population but are as unorganised and 20 quad-amputee pigs suffering from hysteria in a mud pit. But have potential.

SwampRaider · July 2014

Tonight was crazy.

Who the hell got it so EP has 3 bars and AD is pop locked? about 2 or 3 organized DC pvp guilds said "*** this" around 11pm EST, after seeing endless seas of red and yellow.

quakedawg_ESO · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.
DC - Zergballs until they wipe, then they mysteriously disappear and claim they had nobody online from the start.
AD - Pop-lock like crazy but achieve absolutely nothing until some mysterious force teaches them how to use a map, then they actually do something.
But as soon as its done, they call it a night and discredit anybody who does anything when they are not online as 'nightcapping'

Let me also say this:
Every single player on this campaign Night Caps.
Because its always night time somewhere.
I am an oceanic player and I usually play at the lower end of things, however sometimes, provided I don't have to work. I will stay online for peak times.

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.
DC are least populated, but work together better as a whole. But are only active provided they are winning.
AD are Highest population but are as unorganised and 20 quad-amputee pigs suffering from hysteria in a mud pit. But have potential.

Oh snap!

Rylana · July 2014

Three hours at Roebeck so far.

I had to go back to bed just now, how people can stay up like this night after night is beyond me.

Hopefully when I get back the Alaroe is still standing.

I will say, two huge defense ticks already, and at one point the entire southern wall was down. x.x Yes, three breaches on the same wall.

mjspnrb18_ESO · July 2014

Rylana wrote: »

Three hours at Roebeck so far.

I had to go back to bed just now, how people can stay up like this night after night is beyond me.

Hopefully when I get back the Alaroe is still standing.

I will say, two huge defense ticks already, and at one point the entire southern wall was down. x.x Yes, three breaches on the same wall.

I said to everyone " tear down the whole F***ing wall lets have some fun " and fun it was, btw it has just ended now, great fight!!

LonePirate · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.

<snip>

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.

I am going to disagree with both of these points, at least from my perspective as an EP player who is active during the NA evening hours (but not the NA overnight/oceanic prime time hours). When I log in during the evening, EP seldom owns much of anything and evenings are spent trying to recapture home keeps in the northeast section of the map. We don't farm AP like AD and DC do by camping on hills or in resource towers. We're too busy taking keeps and resources for that nonsense. I typically call it a night by midnight EST give or take an hour.

I login the next morning to receive my hireling emails and to check the map. Today I noticed EP had expanded their presence from our northeast base and were attacking Roebeck which would give EP the Emperorship if it fell, which I suspect it did. I also suspect EP probably grabbed (or will grab) a scroll or two this morning while I am at work as AD owned all six scrolls before Roebeck's likely fall.

The EP crew will then probably call it a night (or morning) at which point DC most likely will begin retaking keeps and scrolls and run the map during the NA daytime hours. AD might mix things up and start a push of their own during the afternoon or very early evening hours. When I log in later this evening, I fully expect to see a map filled with blue and yellow, like it almost always is during the early NA evenings. EP will then begin its push as the cycle will start all over again.

FENGRUSH · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.
DC - Zergballs until they wipe, then they mysteriously disappear and claim they had nobody online from the start.
AD - Pop-lock like crazy but achieve absolutely nothing until some mysterious force teaches them how to use a map, then they actually do something.
But as soon as its done, they call it a night and discredit anybody who does anything when they are not online as 'nightcapping'

Let me also say this:
Every single player on this campaign Night Caps.
Because its always night time somewhere.
I am an oceanic player and I usually play at the lower end of things, however sometimes, provided I don't have to work. I will stay online for peak times.

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.
DC are least populated, but work together better as a whole. But are only active provided they are winning.
AD are Highest population but are as unorganised and 20 quad-amputee pigs suffering from hysteria in a mud pit. But have potential.

DC typically have 1 maybe 2 keeps at primetime around the imperial city, ash or aleswell. You probably see DC zergballs because theyre pushed on single fronts every night.

My group never disappears because of numbers, but were not DC zergballs either!

DC is also the lowest pop, the only one that hasnt caplocked, and I certainly dont complain when we dont have people or fewer numbers. It means more enemies are coming my way every night.

bitaken · July 2014

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is incapable of anything.
DC - Blowing *** up until they wipe, then they get tired and go to bed.
AD - Pop-lock like crazy but achieve few things tactically unless it's in a straight line. But as soon as its done, they call it a night and discredit anybody who does anything when they are not online as 'nightcapping'

EP are consistent. However a large portion get farmed for AP.
DC are least populated, but work together better as a whole. But are only active until they go to bed.
AD are Highest population but are mostly unorganized. But have potential.

Hey - I fixed all that blubber for you. You really must be joking if you think your OP is anything close to the truth.

bitaken · July 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.

<snip>

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.

I am going to disagree with both of these points, at least from my perspective as an EP player who is active during the NA evening hours (but not the NA overnight/oceanic prime time hours). When I log in during the evening, EP seldom owns much of anything and evenings are spent trying to recapture home keeps in the northeast section of the map. We don't farm AP like AD and DC do by camping on hills or in resource towers. We're too busy taking keeps and resources for that nonsense. I typically call it a night by midnight EST give or take an hour.

I login the next morning to receive my hireling emails and to check the map. Today I noticed EP had expanded their presence from our northeast base and were attacking Roebeck which would give EP the Emperorship if it fell, which I suspect it did. I also suspect EP probably grabbed (or will grab) a scroll or two this morning while I am at work as AD owned all six scrolls before Roebeck's likely fall.

The EP crew will then probably call it a night (or morning) at which point DC most likely will begin retaking keeps and scrolls and run the map during the NA daytime hours. AD might mix things up and start a push of their own during the afternoon or very early evening hours. When I log in later this evening, I fully expect to see a map filled with blue and yellow, like it almost always is during the early NA evenings. EP will then begin its push as the cycle will start all over again.

A) Roebeck did not fall no EP emperor ship overnight.

EP only gets out of their starting area if DC is getting attacked from the southern front. Until AD came at us from ash on up - we had you bottle-necked between kings, Arrius and Chalman - we even defended Drakelowe at one point.

EP is horribad on this server. I have zero qualms about charging 60 EP on a resource flag. We did it several times last night. With 22 of my guys we wreck EP really no matter the number - unless they are in a keep with siege on us they don't stand a chance. That's real - and some of my guys have videos to back it up. The only group that ever gave us trouble was Agrippa's group and from what I understand he is gone. EP patting themselves on the back in this thread is hilarious. You all can't do a damn thing if you don't have oil, catapults and flame siege on an enemy group - and even then - you die most of the time anyway.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

LonePirate wrote: »

Avidus wrote: »

This thread has more intense PvP than in-game.
Seriously let me break down the campaign simply.
EP - Active almost 24/7, at the worst of times will still have a small group that is capable of something.

<snip>

EP are consistent. However a large portion AP farm.

I am going to disagree with both of these points, at least from my perspective as an EP player who is active during the NA evening hours (but not the NA overnight/oceanic prime time hours). When I log in during the evening, EP seldom owns much of anything and evenings are spent trying to recapture home keeps in the northeast section of the map. We don't farm AP like AD and DC do by camping on hills or in resource towers. We're too busy taking keeps and resources for that nonsense. I typically call it a night by midnight EST give or take an hour.

I login the next morning to receive my hireling emails and to check the map. Today I noticed EP had expanded their presence from our northeast base and were attacking Roebeck which would give EP the Emperorship if it fell, which I suspect it did. I also suspect EP probably grabbed (or will grab) a scroll or two this morning while I am at work as AD owned all six scrolls before Roebeck's likely fall.

The EP crew will then probably call it a night (or morning) at which point DC most likely will begin retaking keeps and scrolls and run the map during the NA daytime hours. AD might mix things up and start a push of their own during the afternoon or very early evening hours. When I log in later this evening, I fully expect to see a map filled with blue and yellow, like it almost always is during the early NA evenings. EP will then begin its push as the cycle will start all over again.

A) Roebeck did not fall no EP emperor ship overnight.
EP only gets out of their starting area if DC is getting attacked from the southern front. Until AD came at us from ash on up - we had you bottle-necked between kings, Arrius and Chalman - we even defended Drakelowe at one point.

EP is horribad on this server. I have zero qualms about charging 60 EP on a resource flag. We did it several times last night. With 22 of my guys we wreck EP really no matter the number - unless they are in a keep with siege on us they don't stand a chance. That's real - and some of my guys have videos to back it up. The only group that ever gave us trouble was Agrippa's group and from what I understand he is gone. EP patting themselves on the back in this thread is hilarious. You all can't do a damn thing if you don't have oil, catapults and flame siege on an enemy group - and even then - you die most of the time anyway.

You are incorrect.

bitaken · July 2014

Cool - I look forward to fighting you again soon. BTW - was that your group at Ales? We wrecked all the EP on the front door - were low on mana - and had burned ultimates on the gate to score about 20 kills at the main gate. Then - in comes a group that knew what they were doing soaked us in negates - and got us down.

Revenge - is in mind

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Cool - I look forward to fighting you again soon. BTW - was that your group at Ales? We wrecked all the EP on the front door - were low on mana - and had burned ultimates on the gate to score about 20 kills at the main gate. Then - in comes a group that knew what they were doing soaked us in negates - and got us down.

Revenge - is in mind

Yes. We were walking the keep clearing it of breachers, then saw you pushing front gate. Rolled in on the rear of your team with ten of my own.

bitaken · July 2014

I figured it had to be your guys. But - you mislead me earlier in this thread about your bloodthorn/purgatory sig.

Good to see you sticking around. Will see you again soon

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

I wasn't misleading. Perhaps I was unclear.

I was homed to Bloodthorn for 90 days during Campaign 1.

I leave it to you to posit my feelings concerning blues and whether I am uncomfortable being gate camped.

Halrloprillalar · July 2014

LonePirate · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

EP is horribad on this server. I have zero qualms about charging 60 EP on a resource flag. We did it several times last night. With 22 of my guys we wreck EP really no matter the number - unless they are in a keep with siege on us they don't stand a chance. That's real - and some of my guys have videos to back it up. The only group that ever gave us trouble was Agrippa's group and from what I understand he is gone. EP patting themselves on the back in this thread is hilarious. You all can't do a damn thing if you don't have oil, catapults and flame siege on an enemy group - and even then - you die most of the time anyway.

You'll receive no disagreements from me that the NA evening EP crew is a disorganized and inexperienced mess, especially when confronted by a group that regularly uses the unbreakable stun/CC combo that DC almost always uses. If ZOS ever changes or prevents that tactic, DC is in for a world of hurt.

Also, it is petty to complain about losing because you had to fight both AD and EP at the same time on different battlefields. That sort of faction splitting is what EP confronts every night and every weekend. Both alliances battle EP far more than they battle each other. I always have plenty of options when choosing which alliance to fight when I log in which is how it should be.

FENGRUSH · July 2014

LonePirate wrote: »

bitaken wrote: »

EP is horribad on this server. I have zero qualms about charging 60 EP on a resource flag. We did it several times last night. With 22 of my guys we wreck EP really no matter the number - unless they are in a keep with siege on us they don't stand a chance. That's real - and some of my guys have videos to back it up. The only group that ever gave us trouble was Agrippa's group and from what I understand he is gone. EP patting themselves on the back in this thread is hilarious. You all can't do a damn thing if you don't have oil, catapults and flame siege on an enemy group - and even then - you die most of the time anyway.

You'll receive no disagreements from me that the NA evening EP crew is a disorganized and inexperienced mess, especially when confronted by a group that regularly uses the unbreakable stun/CC combo that DC almost always uses. If ZOS ever changes or prevents that tactic, DC is in for a world of hurt.

Also, it is petty to complain about losing because you had to fight both AD and EP at the same time on different battlefields. That sort of faction splitting is what EP confronts every night and every weekend. Both alliances battle EP far more than they battle each other. I always have plenty of options when choosing which alliance to fight when I log in which is how it should be.

Whatever will I do without unbreakable stun/CCs!

Who fights the most of what is all a matter of perspective. DC has the most AP, think that has something to do with fighting the most of both enemy sides/winning the most.

bitaken · July 2014

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

A frightening photo of a frightening "man" in American history.

GRxKnight · July 2014

The ring-around-the-rosy game that's being played right now at the Fare resources is funny. Can't believe blue is this dumb.

Braidas · July 2014

bitaken wrote: »

Halrloprillalar wrote: »

A frightening photo of a frightening "man" in American history.

Don't hate on MJ

Warz · July 2014

Again DC you whine just like AD well not DC its mostly bittaken but ill call him kittenbitten because the moment I always catch him alone its like fighting a kitten I just feel bad. Just like the other night right outside of rayles

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Its good you ran a pvp group for 13 years plenty of time to grow that epeen. You are definitely not the only one on here who ever made a gaming community though so no one cares. You take stuff over while EP is at school, or work and literally outnumber us 2-1, if you don't believe me next time ill stream our squad sizes and how many it takes you fools to finish us off.

Now purposely hunting down 10 people yes you accomplished your goal but were clearly too caught up in your glorious AP farm of 10 people which isn't much seeing by your current AP count that proves to be true. Just because you play only during the time our better groups are working, or sleeping, or even at school, cause believe it or not there is a real life out there. As hard as your last 13 years may have led you to believe otherwise.

But from my battles you aren't even considered in zone or anything just an annoyance really its draq and fengrush and their core group that is up top because they know how to fight and farm and actually do something against people while you chase 10 people and lose one of the keeps you were defending on your watch and got wiped 3 times trying to get it back.

How about instead of ranting on here you stay up a night try going up against my LS squad and see how many times we wipe the floor with your face. Because I know from experience you sure as hell cant fight well. Also how I see it you guys running around taking keeps and all scrolls on much more occasions than we have to both EP and AD during times we don't have people on is no different than a night cap. Lack of population to defend anything against full raid squads is still going to be the same result whether it be night or early day. The only difference is we don't cry on forums when we log on later during the day or evening and have to take all our stuff back from what you guys literally got almost for free.

Agrippa_Invisus · July 2014

Warz wrote: »

Snip

Warz -- Please, go get some long, comfy bed rest. Have a nice meal after, and have a pleasant week.

SwampRaider · July 2014

Regardless of what DC lost last night. We completed our goal: No EP Emperor