is anything going to bedone about point blank oiling?

dsalter · July 2014

oil is clearly ment to be dropped onTOP of enemy attackers. being able to pour it onto your own feet and hit an area equal to dropping it from above and still being fine isn't exactly logical.

smeeprocketnub19_ESO · July 2014

is this really an issue? If you get oil spilled on you point blank, it will hurt. This hasn't been difficult to overcome anytime I've encountered it.

Lava_Croft · July 2014

Here we go with another post from someone who has been killed by [INSERT RANDOM THING].

Don't stand in the oil. Learn to use Purge.

ItsRejectz · July 2014

Oil killed me, let's go onto the forums and moan.

Teargrants · July 2014

Crazy idea, but don't walk up and try to melee the guy on oil...

Oil placed above = deadly
Oil placed on the ground = plz kill me!

If you're getting pulled into the oil radius or just run into it that's 100% on you, dude.

dsalter · July 2014

humurous how the moment someone points out something they get hammered with "you noob don't QQ" responces yet i was pointing this out from a "i just watched a pile of idiots try rush a scroll and died to a single emp spamming oil on his own feet" point of view.
funny to watch but kind of sad to think that the guy can do that without any conciquences. i mean allow him to burn himself so it isn't a nececity for defending point blank. we have trap abilities for that.

rammstein2001pub18_ESO · July 2014

i think oil pots should automatically kill the person it lands on .. because in rl if you get hot oil dumped on top your head i'm pretty sure you wouldn't walk away from that . unless your wearing some kinda of battlesuit haha

Lava_Croft · July 2014

rammstein2001pub18_ESO wrote: »

i think oil pots should automatically kill the person it lands on .. because in rl if you get hot oil dumped on top your head i'm pretty sure you wouldn't walk away from that . unless your wearing some kinda of battlesuit haha

Might as well start 'fixing' everything in the game that's not in line with real life.

ShiftControl · July 2014

an other victim of Oil pots they never going to learn not to stand in the red circle usually its bad for your health

Limitless · July 2014

Use purge, morph it into the purge that costs less, or purifying ritual if you are a Templar.

It's seriously easy to survive oil. Range the guy on the oil from afar or just siege him.

Yes, it's a weird mechanic but if the average joe can get past them, so can you.

Domander · July 2014

I would think and hope not.

If you need some realism, if I were dumping a pot of oil on the ground... I would not stand on the ground, I would stand on something off the ground (maybe the thing that's holding the pot).

Tintinabula · July 2014

oil pot users can be knocked off their siege weapon like any other siege weapon. Its called timing.

Teargrants · July 2014

dsalter wrote: »

oil is clearly ment to be dropped onTOP of enemy attackers. being able to pour it onto your own feet and hit an area equal to dropping it from above and still being fine isn't exactly logical.

dsalter wrote: »

humurous how the moment someone points out something they get hammered with "you noob don't QQ" responces yet i was pointing this out from a "i just watched a pile of idiots try rush a scroll and died to a single emp spamming oil on his own feet" point of view.
funny to watch but kind of sad to think that the guy can do that without any conciquences. i mean allow him to burn himself so it isn't a nececity for defending point blank. we have trap abilities for that.

I don't see you indicating any pov in that 1st post. Hence the most logical thing I'm forced to assume is you want it nerfed because it killed you - that's pretty much down to human nature and what we see on these forums the most.

Second, you're kinda defeating your own argument there. People running like idiots into a guy spamming oil on their ground level where they can see and counter it most easily should get punished and do deserve to die to it for being so dumb.

Third, 6 person aoe cap makes all CC useless for defending choke points without using them in conjunction with siege, which has no aoe cap. Oil is the only siege that can be used anywhere approaching the level of speed and reliably needed to put down enough damage fast enough on a choke point to stop a large group from busting in. Oil on ground level is very dangerous for the people manning the oil, because they're right there for you to kill.

limbaughb14_ESO · July 2014

This is a troll. So many issues - this is not one of them.

Cody · July 2014

there are ways to deal with oil. granted, it should damage yourself(I think so anyway) if your own oil hits you. but there are ways to deal with it

LrdRahvin · July 2014

dsalter wrote: »

oil is clearly ment to be dropped onTOP of enemy attackers. being able to pour it onto your own feet and hit an area equal to dropping it from above and still being fine isn't exactly logical.

The mighty Argonian (well not so mighty after his latest head wound) Stands-in-Fire agrees with the OP. Nerf stuffz that kill me please.

kijima · July 2014

rammstein2001pub18_ESO wrote: »

i think oil pots should automatically kill the person it lands on .. because in rl if you get hot oil dumped on top your head i'm pretty sure you wouldn't walk away from that . unless your wearing some kinda of battlesuit haha

But, you could shoot a person with one poison arrow to the face and they would be okay?

Flawed fantasy is flawed.

To the OP, purge is something you need to get on. It works wonders with oil and the like, and if you see someone with oil, just range the crap out of them.

dsalter · July 2014

just to add from my point of view, i'd say increase oil damage point blank but give it some recoil damage, as entertaining as it is to watch, it's not exactly right in my opinion to see a single guy to hold off an entire siege with just oil spam because everyone but him burns

Lava_Croft · July 2014

A single guy cannot hold off an entire siege with a few oilpots unless the entire siege is made up of a bunch of zombies.

dsalter · July 2014

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A single guy cannot hold off an entire siege with a few oilpots unless the entire siege is made up of a bunch of zombies.

Zergs, need i say more?

Lava_Croft · July 2014

dsalter wrote: »

Lava_Croft wrote: »

A single guy cannot hold off an entire siege with a few oilpots unless the entire siege is made up of a bunch of zombies.

Zergs, need i say more?

Zergs are not zombies. I have no idea what game you play, but in the ESO that I play, oil is nowhere near powerful enough to be used by a single guy in order to stop an entire siege.

ZOS_BrianWheeler · July 2014

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

ThyIronFist · July 2014

This again...? *sigh*

Lets hope Zenimax doesn't listen to these type of people anymore. Oil pots are fine, too bad you have baddies on the forums that complain all day because they died to oil pots.

dcincali · July 2014

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

There is no issue. People will complain about anything that kills them.

HazardousNovex · July 2014

Oh my lord, please don't touch oil mechanics, the game has finally taken a turn for the better, it would be a shame if you changed it because right now it's the only thing preventing massive zergs smashing through any resistance.

dsalter · July 2014

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

glad(ish) to hear. but don't alter it to much, personally all i see it needing is a much higher point blank damage but effectivly "suiciding" and a scaling down damage the more it spreads while falling to it's target.
oh and make it non-purgable

pitdemon_ESO · July 2014

Let's look at counters to impulse spamming zerg herds.

- More AE
- Strategically placed Oil pots
- Attrition via stealthers picking off stragglers
- ?????

Whatever Zenimax does, I hope to God they address the former before they bother with any of the latter.

quakedawg_ESO · July 2014

Don't change it to much or these 'skilled' guilds that sit on oils in towers all day will rage quit.

FENGRUSH · July 2014

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

Cant believe you respond to this thread and nothing about AOE caps. This is one of the only things helping people outnumbered disgustingly and trying to fight in tighter areas to have a shot.

dsalter · July 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

Cant believe you respond to this thread and nothing about AOE caps. This is one of the only things helping people outnumbered disgustingly and trying to fight in tighter areas to have a shot.

very few skills HAVE AoE caps, Impulse and Elemetnal ring being core ones

Morvul · July 2014

FENGRUSH wrote: »

ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »

We have been looking into the PBAE Oil pot issues and discussing several options.

Cant believe you respond to this thread and nothing about AOE caps. This is one of the only things helping people outnumbered disgustingly and trying to fight in tighter areas to have a shot.

agreed.
While I think pouring oil at ones own feet is stupid - it currently is the only mechanic in the game which makes entering a choke-point dangerous for a zerg...

Remove point blank oil AND remove AoE caps, that would work.
But simply removing oil is just another buff to the guys mindlessly stacking up