"Few features are more important to ESO than guilds"

Leijona · July 2014

Actually, I wanted to write down a wall of text here about my thoughts regarding Matt Friors sentence. But as I saw, how long it was going to be, I changed my mind and decided to give everyone interested the link to the document:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1iosSzyGk04FnEmYZBY_e_uV-H1-zEhfaEiHSL-Y2Lbs/edit?usp=sharing

Maybe the one or other want to discuss these ideas.
I know that not everybody will like my ideas, but I am willing to answer to constructive criticism.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · July 2014

Until they stop discriminating against small guilds I don't care what they do as I'm locked of it. I'm not going to join a large trading guild with zero social aspect simply because ZOS decided to coerce me to do it by denying me content if I don't.

Leijona · July 2014

I understand, that you prefer a small guild, but what has a guild with 10 people in common with a 400 person trade guild?

frwinters_ESO · July 2014

Guilds are very important in any game. These mechanics should have been in day one so they are well overdue.

Audigy · July 2014

In my opinion they do too much for guilds already. Lets look at 1.3 for a second. They do add tabards, trading and other gimmicks for guilds.

What do players get who are not in such a big guild or play solo? Right, they are locked out of trading, tabards etc.

You can also argue that stuff like trials and VR dungeons are solely for guilds, even though we can queue for them - the focus is on guilds there as well.

It might seem not much to you, but for those who have no benefit from these additions it looks like a lot of wasted resources.

For example, instead of a guild only trade system, they could had added player trading based on housing. This would benefit everyone, yet they didn't do that.

Instead of trials and dungeons, they could had added a new zone with a new faction and a new skill line. Again something for everyone and not just a few.

Not saying that guilds shouldn't matter in MMOs, but I really think they focus too much on them right now.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · July 2014

Leijona wrote: »

I understand, that you prefer a small guild, but what has a guild with 10 people in common with a 400 person trade guild?

Nothing, that's the point.

There are many guilds with less than 10 people whose members would love the frippery of tabbards, I'm in one of them, while those in mega-guilds likely have no interest.

Clearly "Few features are more important to ESO than guilds" is missing the word BIG before 'guilds'.

Enaijo · July 2014

Audigy wrote: »

What do players get who are not in such a big guild or play solo?

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Clearly "Few features are more important to ESO than guilds" is missing the word BIG before 'guilds'.

Is 10 people really a big guild?

Audigy wrote: »

Not saying that guilds shouldn't matter in MMOs, but I really think they focus too much on them right now.

There are not much MMOs out there, where guilds matter so few like in TESO, even with 1.3.

Leijona · July 2014

Audigy wrote: »

It might seem not much to you, but for those who have no benefit from these additions it looks like a lot of wasted resources.

There is always a group that doesn't benefit from changes.
Some don't benefit from changes for AvA, others from changes in trials and the next from changes in crafting.

Just like many players say, that housing is useless and a waste of ressources, others like you say it about a good support for guilds.

babylon · July 2014

I'm wondering how guilds are going to raise money for the guild shops around Tamriel thing, most guilds are trade guilds and won't have a guild goldbank.

Innocente · July 2014

File this one right along with the infamous "...polished and lag free...' gaff. Crap, ESO is still not polished OR lag free!

Leijona · July 2014

I based the gained influence on wearing a guild tabard, as it makes thinks easier in my opinion.
The decision to make tabards available also for friend-chat-guilds is up to ZOS. If they decide to give 2 person guilds the right to wear a tabard, than the system would work for them as well.