slackmare wrote: »

Soloeus wrote: »

1. They have fixed a lot of things over time.
2. The game is playable. Can you log into any zone on any character?
3. Are your video drivers up to date? Is windows installed correctly?
4. Maybe people were doing things or didn't wanna talk to you?
5. Do you have a specific thing you can cite?

This sounds more like babble and banter than anything that can be taken seriously by anyone with authority in the matter.

If i cant see mobs that are attacking me, much less attack them back...thats playable? EVERY item in the game for some of use looks like this:
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you cant even see level of armors...cant even see armor rating for armors.
Thats PLAYABLE?
Framerates dropping to single digit FPS if i use any healing...Playable?
If that is what you call playable...i sure wouldnt want to play a MMO you released.

And all of this happened POST patch 1.2.4 and even worse when 1.2.4 hit. So the drivers were to date up until those patches? Did all these graphic card companies release new drivers that day or something that only you and a select few know about?

That screenshot looks like mod interference, I've never even seen nor heard anyone talk about that problem. If you have any mods, just disable them and see if it helps. If it doesn't or you have tried this and it didn't work, maybe run the repair then. Something tells me that if that gear issue was widespread there would be much more chatter about it.

As far as fixing the FPS issues, they said they are working on it, no point in trying to get them to rush a fix that could just end up making things worse, and the loading screen thing I have pretty much attributed to slower hard drives since so much of the game data is client side. At least that's what I think it is anyway...

Kre wrote: »

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

I can not think of anything more dumb than to have tried (even if they were able and I don't think they are done with the fixes) to push out a patch today right before a three day holiday in the U.S.

Lets say that they did and the patch went as many of you have complained, and that would mean it went badly...and then what? The game becomes even more unplayable on a holiday weekend?

Good grief I think the anger and negativity would be so much this entire forum would fall into itself and form a black hole.

So what your saying is....leave it broke so that they don't screw it up more prior to a holiday weekend? There's already a black hole of negativity on the forums due to the fact that the Dev's are not acting concerned. If they would get on and be like....we cant fix this yet, we know there's stuff wrong, don't worry we'll compensate and at least let us know they care, Maybe then ppl wouldn't be so pissed and stop canceling their subscriptions. There's already a ton of talk of how the VR zones are barren and how whole guilds who came here went back to their other games because of the issues. Im sorry if it seems im complaining about a game that's only 3 mo. old but a tone of us spend good money on a game that's basically still in beta condition. With little to no communication from the Devs.

there is that word again "compensate".....i'm done here

Kre wrote: »

kassandratheclericb14_ESO wrote: »

I can not think of anything more dumb than to have tried (even if they were able and I don't think they are done with the fixes) to push out a patch today right before a three day holiday in the U.S.

Lets say that they did and the patch went as many of you have complained, and that would mean it went badly...and then what? The game becomes even more unplayable on a holiday weekend?

Good grief I think the anger and negativity would be so much this entire forum would fall into itself and form a black hole.

So what your saying is....leave it broke so that they don't screw it up more prior to a holiday weekend? There's already a black hole of negativity on the forums due to the fact that the Dev's are not acting concerned. If they would get on and be like....we cant fix this yet, we know there's stuff wrong, don't worry we'll compensate and at least let us know they care, Maybe then ppl wouldn't be so pissed and stop canceling their subscriptions. There's already a ton of talk of how the VR zones are barren and how whole guilds who came here went back to their other games because of the issues. Im sorry if it seems im complaining about a game that's only 3 mo. old but a tone of us spend good money on a game that's basically still in beta condition. With little to no communication from the Devs.

That was exactly what I said as if it broke MORE then the outrage would have been sublime. Now that the holiday is over (on Monday) it an be addressed properly without the risk of having had horrible things perhaps happen. People complain when fixes or patches were rushed out...they really are damned if they do and damned if they don't

Also I have no doubt these people have been working as hard as possible. Weekends, late nights...and yet that is kinda what they sign up for. These folks have children, families...it was a holiday weekend here. You can argue all you want that they should have fixed this before or whatever...I won't disagree (though I will disagree that anyone involved in this game just shrugs and puts out whatever crap they have) but they deserved the weekend of not having a big patch to worry about being put out last Friday. I'm glad they did not.

As for you getting your monies worth. Well yes you should. I have been playing since day one and Have more than got my $60 and 2 months of sub fees worth of entertainment. I think of it like this. 1) I don't have to continue my sub as I pay monthly. 2) A movie ticket in most places cost about $10-$15 US dollars (in the US obviously.) Renting movies or buying apps cost $5-$15 bucks. It is summer a concert ticket can be form $20-$$$. In a three month period many folks would have done a number of these things that could equal what I have spent on ESO. I have played FAR MORE that any of these things would equal money-time wise for most. So even if I threw my hands up in frustration and drove over my hard-drive I would have gotten my monies worth.

If after Monday's patch you still have too many issues to take..then I urge you not to spend another dime and find something on which you do wish to spend your money. That is the decisions I make eveyr patch and every monthly sub time. When I stop getting enjoyment then I will go my merry way. Yes they should fix the issues and as quickly as they can. Shoving out something on a three-day weekend and hope it doesn't break when all your people are gone...well that would have been silly.

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contact.opiumb16_ESO wrote: »

" Why wont the Dev's fix our game? " : because they already know it's too late. Most of the players have moved. I am on the EU server, the VET zones are empty, Cyrodil just have 1 active campain now (one month ago their was 3 or 4 full of players campains).

My 2 guilds have already lost half of players, and the others will move soon too.

TESO should have been the best MMO ever, if only ZOS did their job correctly.

Bunch of Bull. Perhaps your alliance just isn't populated. EP on a NA server and I always have people in the Vet zones. My guild recruits 4-5 people a day and holding well over 150 people with always 20-30 people active fluctuating between all time zones. The game is far from dead. Those who still post on the forums still have active subscriptions and there is always a lot of chatter on these boards.

Syrrisdevlin wrote: »

I just wanna point out I spent a couple hrs the other day roaming through wildstar forums, and guess what I saw almost the exact same **** I see here almost exactly the same. honestly I thought I was still on the ESO forums but even further more you know I still see this exact same crap on other forums too for games that have been around for years WoW , EVE you know its always the same crap a bunch of spoiled whiney cry babies who have nothing better then to complain about every freaking little thing .... no this games not perfect yes its far from perfect but no games perfect and ever will be perfect so quit complaining and just play the game as best you can and give the devs some time to work things out.

Any one ever heard the old saying about to many cooks in the kitchen well guess what the same thing goes for game development and coding except for in game development you have to have a lot of coders to do the work. Just to make things worse lets say there is 15 coders working on a game and lets say 1-2 years down the line 2-3 of the developers find a better job and move on well now you got 1-2 years of coding from 2-3 guys that now has to be broken down and dissected bit by bit by the rest of the team so they can try and understand exactly what those 2-3 guys where doing and thinking and how they did it not to mention if that dev team hired people to replace them those new guys have to pick up where they left off from scratch. this is just one reason why it takes so long to fix things not to mention why one little bit of code can have a ripple effect acrossed many parts of the game like a stone in a pond

Oh my god. Thank you. There are other people here with brains. They do actually excist.

Yes other games have problems too. THEY ALWAYS HAD!!! Give Eso 6-7 months and you will have a much more complete product.

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

Syrrisdevlin wrote: »

I just wanna point out I spent a couple hrs the other day roaming through wildstar forums, and guess what I saw almost the exact same **** I see here almost exactly the same. honestly I thought I was still on the ESO forums but even further more you know I still see this exact same crap on other forums too for games that have been around for years WoW , EVE you know its always the same crap a bunch of spoiled whiney cry babies who have nothing better then to complain about every freaking little thing .... no this games not perfect yes its far from perfect but no games perfect and ever will be perfect so quit complaining and just play the game as best you can and give the devs some time to work things out.

Any one ever heard the old saying about to many cooks in the kitchen well guess what the same thing goes for game development and coding except for in game development you have to have a lot of coders to do the work. Just to make things worse lets say there is 15 coders working on a game and lets say 1-2 years down the line 2-3 of the developers find a better job and move on well now you got 1-2 years of coding from 2-3 guys that now has to be broken down and dissected bit by bit by the rest of the team so they can try and understand exactly what those 2-3 guys where doing and thinking and how they did it not to mention if that dev team hired people to replace them those new guys have to pick up where they left off from scratch. this is just one reason why it takes so long to fix things not to mention why one little bit of code can have a ripple effect acrossed many parts of the game like a stone in a pond

I was playing WoW for 5 years and never visited it's forum. Why? Because there are basicaly no issues with the game. Only the PvP gear for each seasson to grind over and over again, but I doubt I can change something about that.

I never had a single crash or performance issue.
Yes WoW is around a long time now I do understand that.

ESO is new, but giving them time to fix something they broke with their patch sounds crazy don't you think?

Don't lie, WoW is having plenty performance issues, hell even now EU Servers are lagging ALOT, I'm not sure if it was fixed already, but it's been going on for a week - and that is a game 10 years old!

Despair9 wrote: »

sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO wrote: »

Syrrisdevlin wrote: »

I just wanna point out I spent a couple hrs the other day roaming through wildstar forums, and guess what I saw almost the exact same **** I see here almost exactly the same. honestly I thought I was still on the ESO forums but even further more you know I still see this exact same crap on other forums too for games that have been around for years WoW , EVE you know its always the same crap a bunch of spoiled whiney cry babies who have nothing better then to complain about every freaking little thing .... no this games not perfect yes its far from perfect but no games perfect and ever will be perfect so quit complaining and just play the game as best you can and give the devs some time to work things out.

Any one ever heard the old saying about to many cooks in the kitchen well guess what the same thing goes for game development and coding except for in game development you have to have a lot of coders to do the work. Just to make things worse lets say there is 15 coders working on a game and lets say 1-2 years down the line 2-3 of the developers find a better job and move on well now you got 1-2 years of coding from 2-3 guys that now has to be broken down and dissected bit by bit by the rest of the team so they can try and understand exactly what those 2-3 guys where doing and thinking and how they did it not to mention if that dev team hired people to replace them those new guys have to pick up where they left off from scratch. this is just one reason why it takes so long to fix things not to mention why one little bit of code can have a ripple effect acrossed many parts of the game like a stone in a pond

I was playing WoW for 5 years and never visited it's forum. Why? Because there are basicaly no issues with the game. Only the PvP gear for each seasson to grind over and over again, but I doubt I can change something about that.

I never had a single crash or performance issue.
Yes WoW is around a long time now I do understand that.

ESO is new, but giving them time to fix something they broke with their patch sounds crazy don't you think?

Don't lie, WoW is having plenty performance issues, hell even now EU Servers are lagging ALOT, I'm not sure if it was fixed already, but it's been going on for a week - and that is a game 10 years old!

I was playing for last 5 years and I NEVER had single performance issue. Perhaps I wasn´t online by that particular day if that happened.

call me lier if you want, but I simply never had performance issue.
Lagging? oh well I don´t have somewhat briliant connection but my latency bar is green which is below 100 ms(I usualy have 40-60ms) and that is perfectly fine for MMO.

in ESO however I don´t even know what latency I have. I did not find it anywhere.