Veteran Content Difficulty - Can we at least get Phased Content Group Support????

Qara · July 2014

I've tried to read through all the posts on this topic, but there are so many pages of comments on all of them, I just don't have enough time....

I am a HUGE fan of Elder Scrolls, and ESO gets 5 stars, imho, for lore, engaging content, and freakin' fantastic diversity in builds and playstyles.

I am SUPER lucky to have a questing partner and mostly get to duo the Veteran content....However, I am trying to build a guild aimed at getting enough players to VR12 raids, Craglorn and trials, but am really discouraged about players raging over the difficulties of solo'ing Veteran content.

I don't even want a PEEP out of you L2P'ers, because nothing you say will override the fact that I have friends and family who work hard and simply do not have more than an hour or two, a couple of nights a week to group up and get lost in a fun MMO. They are totally screwed right now and all that this post is asking for, is the ability to group up with them IN THEIR PHASED CONTENT and help out when needed.

I read that there may be dungeon runs where higher level players can group up and scale down to the group leader's level. Is adding phased content support to this an option? if the Group leader doesn't have Velyn Harbor cleared, and I group up with them and help out in their Phase???

It would be a huge help. Thanks and Keep up the Great Work making improvements. If Veteran content difficulty gets a high priority soon, I will remain a vigilant defender.

Qara

Syntse · July 2014

Qara wrote: »

I read that there may be dungeon runs where higher level players can group up and scale down to the group leader's level. Is adding phased content support to this an option? if the Group leader doesn't have Velyn Harbor cleared, and I group up with them and help out in their Phase???

Nothing else said about grouping and phasing other than they are looking into improving it. Really hope they will make the implementation that you can enter other peoples phases to help them on a quest.

circilion · July 2014

You have a questing Partner!! =(

Lucky.

I have been trying to talk my friends into playing this game half assed seriously since I hit the brick wall of Vet content last month. but I can't keep any of them interested!

although that being said, In my exceptionally limited experience with playing with other players. Have you tried the "Travel to Player" Option?

I know its worked for me when I trade with randoms. I would imagine it would work with someone else who you have convinced to play the game and actually logs on more than once every two weeks.

sigh..

Fyrakin · July 2014

circilion wrote: »

You have a questing Partner!! =(

Lucky.

I have been trying to talk my friends into playing this game half assed seriously since I hit the brick wall of Vet content last month. but I can't keep any of them interested!

although that being said, In my exceptionally limited experience with playing with other players. Have you tried the "Travel to Player" Option?

I know its worked for me when I trade with randoms. I would imagine it would work with someone else who you have convinced to play the game and actually logs on more than once every two weeks.

sigh..

I am sure OP was referring to contewnt phases not zone phases which Group travel is designed for.

Cogo · July 2014

Where are you guys questing? Me and guildies are exploring through dagggerfall, and I am a bit ahead of him in quests. So far phasing been working just fine.

Syntse · July 2014

Cogo wrote: »

Where are you guys questing? Me and guildies are exploring through dagggerfall, and I am a bit ahead of him in quests. So far phasing been working just fine.

So you have not ran into situations that first you jog along with your friend fine both seeing each other and once you get to some town or specific area that suddenly you 2 are just arrows to each other?

At least in AD this happens a lot if one has done quest and another one has not. Not to mention several quest dungeons that you can only enter during certain stage of the quest, not before, not after.

Cogo · July 2014

Syntse wrote: »

Cogo wrote: »

Where are you guys questing? Me and guildies are exploring through dagggerfall, and I am a bit ahead of him in quests. So far phasing been working just fine.

So you have not ran into situations that first you jog along with your friend fine both seeing each other and once you get to some town or specific area that suddenly you 2 are just arrows to each other?

At least in AD this happens a lot if one has done quest and another one has not. Not to mention several quest dungeons that you can only enter during certain stage of the quest, not before, not after.

Nope! we teams several days and those phased ones. Not one time!
Only one is where you need to enter a door or cave or something and that is a phasing technology problem, not Zenimax.

Phasing is a software several brands sells to games mostly but also business who needs it for a project or something.

The "problems" is to sync it with the MMO software and alot of other components.
Most seams fixed. But when you need to change zone....phasing simply do not have support for that. Something in their code. Works when you are on the same quest at the same stage.

Neither Zeni or Blizzard are allowed or can fiddle with the phasing code. They can tweak their own code to work with it.

Not 1 problem.

This is no joke though, but most my life, Ive been a kinda lucky guy....could be luck.

But phasing was CRAP like wow in start of ESO.

Now it works.

Syntse · July 2014

Cogo wrote: »

Works when you are on the same quest at the same stage.

This is the key thing that makes the issue. If I'm done zone and happily questing somewhere 1-2 zones ahead of my friend. Now friend is in trouble and needs some help with some quest, I might be able to help him if it is not those phased quest. But if it is then sorry you are out of luck, ask someone who has not done that yet.

What needs to be done that I can group him, he being leader, and the game would phase me to his quest. Now I can help him defeat the tough part, we agree he buys me beer next time.

Cogo · July 2014

I hear ye

I am just done with some more questing with my friend. he had em all. Still no problem and both him and me saw eachother + arrow on the map was correct.

_subjectnamehere_ · July 2014

I know it is old news now, but Lord of the Rings Online had their "reflecting pools" set up throughout the world so if a friend or guild mate was going through phased/instanced content and needed help, you could visit a reflecting pool and join them in that instance if you already completed it. I thought this was a good system, especially for those story parts that required a group to complete.

Just a suggestion, Zenimax.

Cogo · July 2014

Depends if the phasing software are from the same brand.
Zeni didnt code it you know :-p

For example.

http://www.mmo-champion.com/threads/1545787-Phasing-is-completely-screwed-for-me?p=27987198

WoW is a different deal though....they havnt really cared at all about it. As long as it works for 1 person....they dont update.

aleister · July 2014

If you've done any amount of questing with a group, you'll run into this issue and I think it is one of the biggest flaws in ESO. There are a lot of ways it could be fixed, but one simple one is to simply use the lowest-common denominator approach and reset everyone to the same phase of the character that has progressed the least. You might occasionally need to repeat some content, but that should not be a huge deal.

Cogo · July 2014

I quest every day, with a friend or someone i find in daggerfall.
Works! So far just a problem. Only time it doesnt work is when you need to zone.