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Farming the +2 Skill Book?

  • Rodario
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    It wasn't until I read the comments that I realized what skillpoint book you were talking about. I play a Templar, so I did the just thing (freeing Valaste) with a complete disregard for potential personal gains.
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  • mndfreeze
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    dsalter wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I tested it for you and gave the book to another char that had already used one....

    It works!

    It works once at least ;)

    Even if it works to infinity, the sheer volume of time someone would have to devote to gaining 2 SP every few days/each week is ridiculous. Not to mention having to delete and make new characters to spend another several days/week or more to get a whopping 2 more SP.

    still an advantage none the less, imagine someone with a 100 skillpoints more then someone who hasn't used said explot. he can be several builds in 1 and max profs


    There is a maximum amount of skill points you can have on each character, and it is less then the total amount of shards/points available in the game, or so the devs say.

    So really, in the end, it wouldnt matter. If it wasn't so much work to get the +2 book then it might be a problem since people will skip shards and content and time to max their skill points out, but with it taking so long and so much work who really cares. By the time they get near their max skill points using this method, someone who just played casually will be at the same point, or perhaps even maxed far earlier, then the +2 book person.
  • Phantax
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    mndfreeze wrote: »
    There is a maximum amount of skill points you can have on each character, and it is less then the total amount of shards/points available in the game, or so the devs say.

    Didn't know there was a skill point max out ! ? Where was that stated ?

    :/
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  • Dekkameron
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    Phantax wrote: »
    mndfreeze wrote: »
    There is a maximum amount of skill points you can have on each character, and it is less then the total amount of shards/points available in the game, or so the devs say.

    Didn't know there was a skill point max out ! ? Where was that stated ?

    :/

    Yer, i'd like to see that as well. That's the first time i have ever heard something to that effect.
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  • mndfreeze
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    They stated it waaaaay back in beta when people asked if it was possible to learn every skill and every crafting abiltity to max.
  • Soloeus
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    Phantax wrote: »
    mndfreeze wrote: »
    There is a maximum amount of skill points you can have on each character, and it is less then the total amount of shards/points available in the game, or so the devs say.

    Didn't know there was a skill point max out ! ? Where was that stated ?

    :/
    mndfreeze wrote: »
    They stated it waaaaay back in beta when people asked if it was possible to learn every skill and every crafting abiltity to max.

    I thought they meant the total number of skill points in the game, not a cap on characters. This also assumes the addition of new skill lines or perks to existing ones and new skill points in new zones.

    So if Blacksmithing/Cloth/Wood get equipment up to V20, then they will gain enough perks in their skill line to suit that. Maybe the crafts will all have 15-20 "perks" in Crafting Level Skill?

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  • Laz
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    Not sure this is considered an exploit... Just an oversight. You aren't really causing any game breaking mechanics in this respect, just taking advantage of something that's already there.

    Though I guess by dictionary definition, this is considered an exploit.
    Edited by Laz on July 6, 2014 2:34PM
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  • Turelus
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    Well knowing it works I would assume they should do something to patch it at some point. It's a little bit silly if people can keep doing this.
    I would personally rather not play a game where recycling alts every few days grants unlimited SP.

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom any chance you can pass this on to the Devs and see what can be done?
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  • killedbyping
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    I dont think this is working as intended.
    Usualy such items (like explorers pack tresure maps chests) cannot be placed into bank.
    Edited by killedbyping on July 5, 2014 11:19AM
  • nudel
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    @killedbyping The maps from the Explorers Pack can be placed in the bank. Only the containers holding them cannot. That's a restriction on all containers, not just those with special maps in them. I assure you bound items can be banked and traded to alts.
  • Morticielle
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    DeLindsay wrote: »
    I don't know how many people are willing to "rush" characters over and over again to at LEAST the upper 30's just to get +2 SP what, once a week? That's kind of a silly concept tbh.
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  • CoUsT
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    I know someone who found bug in Bangkorai and "farmed" some skill points in Bangkorai dungeon Group Challenge. Remember this bug? He got some points and now he can't get more. If he collect skyshard, it's still 0/3. There is some kind of protection, so I don't recommend you doing this and wasting your time.

    Just my two cents.

    Btw you can get 50 lv in 17 hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPWzsTAVhg
    Edited by CoUsT on July 5, 2014 12:13PM
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    Soloeus wrote: »
    All you need is to rush one player to that point, sac her for the +2 skill book, deposit in bank and log in your main. Read, then create a newb to repeat.

    Will reading these "other" +2 skill books just cause them to break and poof out? Or will they give the +2 intended points?

    Why someone would level X amount of characters to level ~40.
    Has to do all the Mages quest line over and over again.

    Just for 2 SP?

    There is a cap at 300 SP. At VR9 without the skill book (freed Valaste) I have 250 SP.

    Believe me they are more than enough to have almost all the crafts, all armour, all your main line and at least 2 weapon lines fully developed.
  • mndfreeze
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    CoUsT wrote: »
    I know someone who found bug in Bangkorai and "farmed" some skill points in Bangkorai dungeon Group Challenge. Remember this bug? He got some points and now he can't get more. If he collect skyshard, it's still 0/3. There is some kind of protection, so I don't recommend you doing this and wasting your time.

    Just my two cents.

    Btw you can get 50 lv in 17 hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPWzsTAVhg

    This is exactly what I was referring to. The devs said a long time back in beta in an interview or AMA sort of deal that there is a max skill points a character can get and that there is/will be more available in the world to be found then you can actually have.
  • p_tsakirisb16_ESO
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    CoUsT wrote: »
    I know someone who found bug in Bangkorai and "farmed" some skill points in Bangkorai dungeon Group Challenge. Remember this bug? He got some points and now he can't get more. If he collect skyshard, it's still 0/3. There is some kind of protection, so I don't recommend you doing this and wasting your time.

    Just my two cents.

    Btw you can get 50 lv in 17 hours.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GSPWzsTAVhg

    I wonder how this can be done in AD.
  • SilverWF
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    This thread is completely #facepalm
    I have vr1 alt-crafter and he have enough SP for all(!) craftings
    My main VR12 without craftings have a tons of free SP

    Who will need to farm this book in this way?
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  • CoUsT
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    mndfreeze wrote: »
    This is exactly what I was referring to. The devs said a long time back in beta in an interview or AMA sort of deal that there is a max skill points a character can get and that there is/will be more available in the world to be found then you can actually have.

    He still can get SP from PvP ranks, so it's not his limit. Just some kind of protection I think.
  • DeLindsay
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    dsalter wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Dekkameron wrote: »
    I tested it for you and gave the book to another char that had already used one....

    It works!

    It works once at least ;)

    Even if it works to infinity, the sheer volume of time someone would have to devote to gaining 2 SP every few days/each week is ridiculous. Not to mention having to delete and make new characters to spend another several days/week or more to get a whopping 2 more SP.

    still an advantage none the less, imagine someone with a 100 skillpoints more then someone who hasn't used said explot. he can be several builds in 1 and max profs

    By the time some other player burns through 50 alts to get the +100 SP I will have every SP in the game, around 326 right now including all 50 PvP ranks, which will make the MONTHS TO A YEAR+ of work that player did moot. Which is why I said go for it, if someone is that bored and has that much time on their hand for something that is so insignificant, let them. It doesn't harm my game play in any way. That player will NEVER become "better" than me because with all SP in game right now you will have 100% passives, 100% Crafting, 2-3 weapon lines, and every other ability that you want and use on a regular basis all fully morphed.
  • Sakiri
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    mndfreeze wrote: »
    They stated it waaaaay back in beta when people asked if it was possible to learn every skill and every crafting abiltity to max.

    People in beta with 600+ skillpoibts via exploit would like to challenge your statement.
  • Sakiri
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Soloeus wrote: »
    All you need is to rush one player to that point, sac her for the +2 skill book, deposit in bank and log in your main. Read, then create a newb to repeat.

    Will reading these "other" +2 skill books just cause them to break and poof out? Or will they give the +2 intended points?

    Isn't that the FINAL Mage quest in the game? As in, gives you a level 43 reward (in this case it's a +2 SP book). I don't know how many people are willing to "rush" characters over and over again to at LEAST the upper 30's just to get +2 SP what, once a week? That's kind of a silly concept tbh. I finished both the Fighter's and Mage's Guilds at level 37 and it wasn't easy at all at that level.

    EDIT: TBH if this is even doable, who cares. If someone really wants to waste THAT much time over and over and over again for 2 whole SP, by all means let them.

    Uper 30s? I did it at 31...

    Not possible, you have to be level 33 and rank 5 mages guild to even get it

    You were saying?

    http://youtu.be/iAUK3svp3ms

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  • Dekkameron
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    Sakiri wrote: »
    Rylana wrote: »
    Sakiri wrote: »
    DeLindsay wrote: »
    Soloeus wrote: »
    All you need is to rush one player to that point, sac her for the +2 skill book, deposit in bank and log in your main. Read, then create a newb to repeat.

    Will reading these "other" +2 skill books just cause them to break and poof out? Or will they give the +2 intended points?

    Isn't that the FINAL Mage quest in the game? As in, gives you a level 43 reward (in this case it's a +2 SP book). I don't know how many people are willing to "rush" characters over and over again to at LEAST the upper 30's just to get +2 SP what, once a week? That's kind of a silly concept tbh. I finished both the Fighter's and Mage's Guilds at level 37 and it wasn't easy at all at that level.

    EDIT: TBH if this is even doable, who cares. If someone really wants to waste THAT much time over and over and over again for 2 whole SP, by all means let them.

    Uper 30s? I did it at 31...

    Not possible, you have to be level 33 and rank 5 mages guild to even get it

    You were saying?

    http://youtu.be/iAUK3svp3ms

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    The fighters guild final quest must have been a little tricky at that level.
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  • Sakiri
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    Oh you have no idea. She kept being positioned weird and I was lagging a little bit so I'd miss stuff, and aiming wrong, and blech.

    Finally got it but it took a lot longer than it should have. That character's boss fights are all on video ><
  • Yakidafi
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    I chose the girl over the book.

    I have plenty of other points to gain.
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  • Tabbycat
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    Yakidafi wrote: »
    I chose the girl over the book.

    I have plenty of other points to gain.

    That brings up an interesting question. Would you be able to save the girl and get the book? If you save Valaste, would you still be able to use the book farmed by an alt character and get the 2 points? Or would the game mechanics prevent you from using it because you picked Valaste?
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  • Corew
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    A crappy staff or 2 SP.. this quest has to be a finger to those who just click and never read.
  • Svann
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    It seems like for many people it doesnt matter how many valid SP you put in the game, those 2 SP you arent supposed to get are worth much more.
    :-0)
  • Kevinmon
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    This is a huge and embarrassing exploit for Zenimax Online. I am surprised it hasn't been fixed.
  • Artemiisia
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    already got 250 skill points on my main, cant see why I should farm skill points like this, when there are plenty of them out there, and I haven't even collected them all yet
  • DeLindsay
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    Kevinmon wrote: »
    This is a huge and embarrassing exploit for Zenimax Online. I am surprised it hasn't been fixed.

    I really hope that's sarcasm.
  • Postumus
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    Worst SP farm ever. But... it would be interesting to test this SP cap theory with a spare book.
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