For me, I like the game. I just don't like the bugs!!!

Not really, road ahead is still the best info you will find on their plans in the near future. You are really better off just checking back in 3 months. Don't expect significant changes/improvements before then.

More Craglorn. More veteran dungeons. And..yeah. That's pretty much it.

ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »

yodased wrote: »

They haven't officially said anything other than they understand people aren't happy and they are doing things for reasons.

More specific details have been asked for in multiple threads, but none to date I know of.

^ This.

Probably means they are going to nerf the crap out of VR and give epic loot for everything you do in it.

You mean make it FUN? The horror! It needs to stay brutal and punishing with absolutely no reward (other than the superiority you feel when talking to carebear noobs).

brandon.coker101_ESO wrote: »

I have not hit endgame yet but it sounds like people are pretty unimpressed.

I'm curious if Zenimax has commented about this issue or what might be coming up in the future.

Most people have not yet reached level 50 and therefore not played the content at max level. Many of them actually enjoy the game as it doesn't feed them epics or rewards, but joy.

What you are referring to is a vocal minority, people that rushed or exploited and now idle at VR 12. In my opinion these people should be ignored, the VR content should get some updates in future and new factions etc. will be added.

That "endgame" that you are referring to and know from WOW will hopefully never find its way to ESO.
If you want a boring dungeon grinder you have a huge MMO that offers that. I doubt that ZO will grant you your wish, they have a different type of customer, people who want to adventure the wilds and not a 4x4² dungeon with 8 bosses for full 6 months.

NerfEverything wrote: »

Typical WoW-generation gamers assuming easy content and shiny loots = FUN.

Then there is everyone else who like to feel a sense of accomplishment for completing difficult tasks.

I have no problem with difficult content so long as I am adequately rewarded. I am not paying to feel all tingly inside.

People are upset about there being nothing at "End Game". Sorry roll credits bye bye. People get tired of hearing it and I get tired of saying it but if you skip over "The Game" just to reach "The End" and then get upset that it truly is "The End" for you well you're a cotton headed ninny-muggins. OP sounds like you're playing the game and enjoying it so just keep doing what you're doing. If you get to "The End" and it's not to your liking well on to the next game. If everyone does that it's just the end of a game not the end of the RW. If you don't like vet dungeons, trials, pvp, or RPing than just realize this game isn't for you and move on folks.

NerfEverything wrote: »

Typical WoW-generation gamers assuming easy content and shiny loots = FUN.

Then there is everyone else who like to feel a sense of accomplishment for completing difficult tasks.

Oh sure, insult me and call me entitled, WoW-generation, carebear, etc. Fact is I'm VR12, completed Cadwell's Gold, no Craglorn grinding, 100% of VR complete. Guess what? It sucked, it wasn't fun, the VR zones are completely dead and there was no reward for doing it. It's a game and should be fun. I'll save the sense of accomplishment for important stuff like promotions at work, etc.

Tell me, NerfEverything, why do you NOT want the game to be fun? Do you think that's going to keep subscribers happy? Or do you want you, Hilgara and the other 2 or 3 VR defenders to be the only ones playing? Seriously, I don't understand. Why can't some VR content be hard and some be easier? What's wrong with a little variety? What's wrong with making content for different player groups. Casual players aren't going to research builds and spend countless gold respecing over and over, that doesn't make them lesser players, they just play different than you. They also pay the bills that keeps the game going.

I like the current VR difficulty at times. Sometimes I want to kick back and take it easy too. I would love it if, for example, quest mobs were a bit easier. I would feel much more involved in the story if the combat wasn't so punishing. Other times I might want a challenge, so I can solo a delve that would stay at the current level of difficulty, or group up for a hard group dungeon.

And why are you poopooing loot? I just don't get the masochistic attitude the VR defenders have. Don't you think even the casuals would be more likely to take on the harder stuff if they would get something out of it? I know I would be much more likely to replay harder dungeons if there was some "shiny loots."

Sorry, I usually don't get antagonistic on the forum, but I'm just so sick of the VR defender crowd's namecalling and insults when talking about the broken VR content that even most people that can handle the difficulty hate.

talon_vib14_ESO wrote: »

People are upset about there being nothing at "End Game". Sorry roll credits bye bye. People get tired of hearing it and I get tired of saying it but if you skip over "The Game" just to reach "The End" and then get upset that it truly is "The End" for you well you're a cotton headed ninny-muggins. OP sounds like you're playing the game and enjoying it so just keep doing what you're doing. If you get to "The End" and it's not to your liking well on to the next game. If everyone does that it's just the end of a game not the end of the RW. If you don't like vet dungeons, trials, pvp, or RPing than just realize this game isn't for you and move on folks.

The confusion seems to revolve around stand alone TES games and standard MMO games. TES games have no endgame. Not in the same definition as that used for MMO endgame.

Endgame for TES is finishing the main story. Standard Single Player RPG fair. Endgame for MMOs is repeatable content that offers material rewards, through both PvP and PvE.

Most of the arguments made by the TES crowd are to slow down and enjoy the quests and storyline like you would in a stand alone TES game. For MMO players it is feed us more content so that we can be rewarded via loot, time trials, etc.

It is hard to balance this for this IP I think because there are a lot of first time MMO players here strictly for the TES experience. It appears that the majority of those players think the game can and should be experienced one way. The same can be said for the end gamers but I feel their MMO experience leads them to believe that questing is a means to an end. Two very different and very distinct playstyles that thrown together in this megaserver mix, do not seem to be coming together properly.

At VR12 I'm finding it difficult to find anything to do. Cyrodiil is dead and Craglorn is group only quests but there are only grind groups there so that leaves ...crafting?

Karnus wrote: »

At VR12 I'm finding it difficult to find anything to do. Cyrodiil is dead and Craglorn is group only quests but there are only grind groups there so that leaves ...crafting?

I'm there too. Questing, especially with the phasing system that ESO uses, should be solo and casual friendly. I'm legitimately interested in the story behind Craglorn, but I doubt I'll ever actually do the quests and get to play the story out.

Personally I love the CYrodiil endgame. best endgame since Darkage of Camelot. Sure there is a FPS issue right but that should be fixed soon.

The word is the Imperial City will be just like Darkness Falls from DAOC, that has me really excited

well im from the finalfantasy rpg generation and fun was allways maxed out if u feel like ur getting stronger and be rewared with super awesome stuff. and just to find more awesome stuff and everything feels good.. well till the endbossfight it was super awesome.. but it just feels broken, unbalanced, unrewarding... in one word "boring"... and boring is the archenemy of fun.. and boring is very stronck now!.. and of course have i quit my subscription.. "boring" deserves no money