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Game is currently in a state that is not much better than a early alpha build...

Hypertionb14_ESO
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Since Patch 1.2.4.............

I bothered to reset my modem to fix the patch manifest error

however now i am getting horrible lag on effects in the game... attacks are not rendering, visual effects are missing. i tried changing the graphics settings down but that didnt help.. btw i had to hard close the game from task manager because the loading screen after changing the visual settings simply looped endlessly, which it always does...

Enemy attacks are having delays with the visual and gameplay effects... a enemy can use the throw dagger ability but not have it actually fire off until seconds later. i can use puncturing stirkes but not have any of the visual effects render..

Loading screens are taking extremely long, up to 5-10 minutes when first loading the character screens..

an issue that causes CPU usage to spike, freezing the game for a few seconds unless i change the priority of the game to high in task manager still plagues me... even with that change it still happens...

right now the game is playing in a state worse than what i would expect of a alpha build... its downright unplayable.. its not even 50-50 that anything from the game loading to minor graphic effects that are relied on for feedback in gameplay will work anymore... thats no better than a first build alpha that only serves to demonstrate the engine...

i cant play it like this.... what the hell is Zenimax doing?
Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on July 2, 2014 3:31AM
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  • TaffyIX
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    Would you mind posting your PC specifications? Also, which OS are you using?
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    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
  • Zero_Tolerance
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    I've none of the problems you describe, on a 2+ years old PC. So, ehm... what the hell are you doing?
  • Sharee
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    I've none of the problems you describe, on a 2+ years old PC. So, ehm... what the hell are you doing?

    Same. None of the described issues here.
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    Win7

    CPU = AMD Phenom II X2 560 (Callisto) Black Edition
    GPU = Gigabyte Nividia Geforce GTX 650 2gb OC
    RAM = 10gig
    HD = 500gb Sata II (rpm idk)
    direct wired 1gig ethernet connection, speed testing currently at 22MBPS Download and 5.4MBPS Upload

    I never drop below 30 fps on high settings so i generally enjoy my gameplay experience... the past 2 patches however have so severely affected preformace to make the game go from visually polished save a few gameplay bugs to what i posted in the origonal topic.
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • mad.ferretb16_ESO
    It's not them. It's you....

    Nothing like this is happening on my computer. Either it's a specific application, your ISP, router or even a virus, might even be hardware related ie bad psu, Hardrive, Mobo or Ram.

    If your CPU is spiking I'd suggest working from there. Sounds like another app is taking up all your CPU.

  • Durham
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    My brother had his same issues... 750gtx 8 gig ram 3.2 dual core....
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  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    It's not them. It's you....

    Nothing like this is happening on my computer. Either it's a specific application, your ISP, router or even a virus, might even be hardware related ie bad psu, Hardrive, Mobo or Ram.

    If your CPU is spiking I'd suggest working from there. Sounds like another app is taking up all your CPU.

    i have closed out all other applications save the task manager, the CPU spikes occur and show ESO holding 98-100% of my CPU resources.

    this has been true since early release
    Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on July 1, 2014 7:49AM
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  • Durham
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    I have seen these issues on one computer while another is fine... both worked fine before patch.... other account is played on a 3.4 AMD 965 4 core 460 gtx 8 gigs both systems are on win 7.The AMD is running better at the moment.....
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  • Teevesnacks
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    Got none of these issues

    Windows 7 64bit
    I7 870
    Gtx590
    16gig ram
    Samsung 128gig ssd
    Adsl2+
    Playing from Australia

    Edit: aaaaand the problems with rendering have started
    Edited by Teevesnacks on July 1, 2014 2:59PM
  • Durham
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    This is actually all over reddit and the customer service forums.... Many people are seeing this and many are not .....
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  • TaffyIX
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    Win7

    CPU = AMD Phenom II X2 560 (Callisto) Black Edition
    GPU = Gigabyte Nividia Geforce GTX 650 2gb OC
    RAM = 10gig
    HD = 500gb Sata II (rpm idk)
    direct wired 1gig ethernet connection, speed testing currently at 22MBPS Download and 5.4MBPS Upload

    I never drop below 30 fps on high settings so i generally enjoy my gameplay experience... the past 2 patches however have so severely affected preformace to make the game go from visually polished save a few gameplay bugs to what i posted in the origonal topic.

    Thanks for posting those specs, I agree, your pc should handle ESO fine.
    You've probably already checked, but could it be some sort of malware on your workstation?

    If you haven't checked, try installing MBAM Free edition and run a scan?

    I must admit, other than the general fps issue that others have been also reporting, I have not experienced the issues you seem to be experiencing :(
    Edited by TaffyIX on July 1, 2014 7:53AM
    Breton Templar
    Daggerfall Covenant
    EU Megaserver
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
  • Blackwidow
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    It might be effecting certain types of video cards or a few other anomalies.
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    TaffyIX wrote: »
    Win7

    CPU = AMD Phenom II X2 560 (Callisto) Black Edition
    GPU = Gigabyte Nividia Geforce GTX 650 2gb OC
    RAM = 10gig
    HD = 500gb Sata II (rpm idk)
    direct wired 1gig ethernet connection, speed testing currently at 22MBPS Download and 5.4MBPS Upload

    I never drop below 30 fps on high settings so i generally enjoy my gameplay experience... the past 2 patches however have so severely affected preformace to make the game go from visually polished save a few gameplay bugs to what i posted in the origonal topic.

    Thanks for posting those specs, I agree, your pc should handle ESO fine.
    You've probably already checked, but could it be some sort of malware on your workstation?

    If you haven't checked, try installing MBAM Free edition and run a scan?

    I must admit, other than the general fps issue that others have been also reporting, I have not experienced the issues you seem to be experiencing :(

    Avast runs automatically. most recent was only a bit ago, and pulled up nothing.

    Doing a quick scan now..
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • mad.ferretb16_ESO
    Ok, use MSconfig to systematically disable auto starts and services. Start with basic service configuration and no autoruns.

    I had something similar when the Beta refused to work. It turned out to be a program that was supposed to help clean up the computer was blocking ESO's server.

    The wired internet might be something too regarding the lag, just because you get 22Mb/s doesn't mean anything really there maybe some throttling going on ISP side or some other such networking nonsense.
    Edited by mad.ferretb16_ESO on July 1, 2014 8:13AM
  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    Ok, use MSconfig to systematically disable auto starts and services. Start with basic service configuration and no autoruns.

    I had something similar when the Beta refused to work. It turned out to be a program that was supposed to help clean up the computer was blocking ESO's server.

    thats actually one of the better suggestions i have seen.

    problem is i already optimize startup and services in MSCONFIG. a quick glance shows nothing new. and i generally only allow windows services to run with a few exceptions like Avast..

    i dont even allow steam to run on startup or at all unless i explicitly open the program.. i try and maintain tight control of my PC...

    A+ for life^^
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • mad.ferretb16_ESO
    Actually something to note with 'newer' CPUs is they will slowdown if they get too hot so check your case/fans/coolers arnt full of dust. :)
  • JinShepard01
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    People posting, '' I dont have it, so its you'' bloody hell stop that stupid crap, only because YOU don't have it doesn't mean HUNDREDS of others don't have it!

    OP, I might not have all the things you got, but I noticed the last 2 patches some graphicle slowdowns, I use Riften as my benchmark and it has been worse now.

    I also have freezes, and I know a lot of other players have it because you can see it ingame, you see them travel on there horse and then stop dead still and the mount is still moving, but it isnt.

    The first time loading your char screen does indeed take a long time, god knows why. The getting hit while dodging, out of a red warning area, weapon swapping not working or having a huge delay are normal sadly.. its stupid, but hey, the publishers and investors pushes a newbie on the MMO Market into releasing a unfinished product, and this is the result.
    Why do people complain?
    ''Because players want to provide feedback and help shape a product they still see as having the potential to be great.''
  • TaffyIX
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    And with that I'm out.
    Was waiting for a post like the above.

    Good luck OP, hope you get it sorted. :neutral_face:
    Breton Templar
    Daggerfall Covenant
    EU Megaserver
    I must not fear. Fear is the mind-killer. Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration. I will face my fear. I will permit it to pass over me and through me. And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path. Where the fear has gone there will be nothing. Only I will remain.
  • mad.ferretb16_ESO
    Ok, use MSconfig to systematically disable auto starts and services. Start with basic service configuration and no autoruns.

    I had something similar when the Beta refused to work. It turned out to be a program that was supposed to help clean up the computer was blocking ESO's server.

    thats actually one of the better suggestions i have seen.

    problem is i already optimize startup and services in MSCONFIG. a quick glance shows nothing new. and i generally only allow windows services to run with a few exceptions like Avast..

    i dont even allow steam to run on startup or at all unless i explicitly open the program.. i try and maintain tight control of my PC...

    A+ for life^^

    Well that's probably a more sensible approach than a lot if people. I've also had issues with certain firewall + antivirus progs that get worse you leave the computer on.

    Are your CPU temps ok?

  • Hypertionb14_ESO
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    Ok, use MSconfig to systematically disable auto starts and services. Start with basic service configuration and no autoruns.

    I had something similar when the Beta refused to work. It turned out to be a program that was supposed to help clean up the computer was blocking ESO's server.

    thats actually one of the better suggestions i have seen.

    problem is i already optimize startup and services in MSCONFIG. a quick glance shows nothing new. and i generally only allow windows services to run with a few exceptions like Avast..

    i dont even allow steam to run on startup or at all unless i explicitly open the program.. i try and maintain tight control of my PC...

    A+ for life^^

    Well that's probably a more sensible approach than a lot if people. I've also had issues with certain firewall + antivirus progs that get worse you leave the computer on.

    Are your CPU temps ok?

    CPU temps generally dont go above 40-46C under 100% CPU load. i have not overclocked my CPU so it runs at stock speed, cooling is basic but since it never gets close to the dangerous levels its never been nessicary to replace what i have..

    I have seen a overheating issue before, i had a fan die on a GPU once and after a short time of work it would simply black out the system restarting it. I still have that little GTS 430 with a nice replacement fan as a back up for my GTX 650. i also still have the fan that died which i mostly just twiddle with if i am bored.

    untill i got that fan fixed i just stuck a giant 9 case cooling fan under that GPU... worked wonders lol, but god did it look getto in the case jamed between the Graphics card and the wireless network card.

    anyways the CPU is set by default to shut down at tempatures well above what i have seen it hit, so its good.. and never seen any stability issues i could link to it overheating..

    also i shut my computer off at night^^ no waking out of sleep mode to run updates i don't know about.. bugs the hell out of me... and wakes me up at night when those LEDS on the main case fan come on.
    Edited by Hypertionb14_ESO on July 1, 2014 8:41AM
    I play every class in every situation. I love them all.
  • Murmeltier
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    I finally bothered to reset my modem to fix the patch manifest error not long ago..

    however now i am getting horrible lag on effects in the game... attacks are not rendering, visual effects are missing. i tried changing the graphics settings down but that didnt help.. btw i had to hard close the game from task manager because the loading screen after changing the visual settings simply looped endlessly, which it always does...

    Enemy attacks are having delays with the visual and gameplay effects... a enemy can use the throw dagger ability but not have it actually fire off until seconds later. i can use puncturing stirkes but not have any of the visual effects render..

    Loading screens are taking extremely long, up to 5-10 minutes when first loading the character screens..

    an issue that causes CPU usage to spike, freezing the game for a few seconds unless i change the priority of the game to high in task manager still plagues me... even with that change it still happens...

    right now the game is playing in a state worse than what i would expect of a alpha build... its downright unplayable.. its not even 50-50 that anything from the game loading to minor graphic effects that are relied on for feedback in gameplay will work anymore... thats no better than a first build alpha that only serves to demonstrate the engine...

    i cant play it like this.... what the hell is Zenimax doing?


    The most of this Problems i don`t have and i don`t think this Game looks like an Alpha/Beta-Version.

    Yesterday i run through some nice Zones and thought,*Wow, they did a really good Work and it runs so smooth with all the Lighting/Graphics.* I doesn`t seen such a smooth and good Game for a very long Time with that Level of Graphics.

    I believe that some Players have Problems outthere but i think thats more a personal Hardwareproblem because many Players don`t have the most of this Problems.

    I don`t think that Teso is perfect and i have some Little Problems too but i think that this Game don`t get the Notes, it should get. It´s more a Ragethinking and typical automatism if something don`t work perfect in the Sense of a Player who wants it.

    Some Arguments are not logical and sounds more like Angercomments from Players who wants all as fast as they can get it and this in a perfect Style. Some Players use the Forum to throw all their Emotional Potential out and call it Critism then. The Moneyjoker is one of this Arguments for example.

    People, calm down and think that you are not perfect too in your Jobs (pls don`t use the Argument, that if you do in your Job such a bad work, your chief will thrown you out ;) ), no one have said that this Game don`t need some Work. Thats a normal Way in a MMORPG.

    This Game don`t get the right Note, it should definitley get better Notes. It is a Jewel and i think it becomes better over the next Time too. I am one of the Player who are thankfull to get a Chance to Play such a fine MMORPG. Sure, this is my emotional Opinion of this Game.


    MFG Murmeltier.
    Edited by Murmeltier on July 1, 2014 8:52AM
  • RazielSR
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    This Game don`t get the right Note, it should definitley get better Notes. It is a Jewel and i think it becomes better over the next Time too. I am one of the Player who are thankfull to get a Chance to Play such a fine MMORPG. Sure, this is my emotional Opinion of this Game.


    MFG Murmeltier.

    Are you serious? what level are you now?
  • sevcik.miroslaveb17_ESO
    Why should not he be serious? PVE wise this game beautiful. PvP is lacking a lot. (for my expectations) Now even more with FPS drops.
  • Murmeltier
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    RazielSR wrote: »
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    Murmeltier wrote: »
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    This Game don`t get the right Note, it should definitley get better Notes. It is a Jewel and i think it becomes better over the next Time too. I am one of the Player who are thankfull to get a Chance to Play such a fine MMORPG. Sure, this is my emotional Opinion of this Game.


    MFG Murmeltier.

    Are you serious? what level are you now?

    I am in the Veteran-Content and what should i say, i love the Difficulty and the Option to explore two new Factions. I have Fun there and i play as a Templer ;) .

    This is a typical Comment too, sorry to say that but you know something like that: * You like this Game because you don`t have seen the Veteran Content who is soooo horrible.* So please speak if you reach it and then you are a serious *whatever*.

    I have seen the Veteran Content and i like it. Maybe the Reason is that i am an old Dog and i can remember to Games like EQ1 (*Train, RUUUN :# )in the early Stage. So i `ve wrote over Themes that i have seen and it works for me. It is not perfect, it is difficult but it runs smooth at my personal Sight and i like it. So i think i am serious, yes.

    MFG Murmeltier.
    Edited by Murmeltier on July 1, 2014 10:00AM
  • mad.ferretb16_ESO
    GPU drivers all present and correct? Mobo, Ethernet and ancillary drivers such as USB, HD, urrr SATA?

    Got latest bios upgrade?
  • Blackwidow
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    "Game is currently in a state that is not much better than a early alpha build..."

    Just FYI, that title screams troll bait. ;)

    How about, "I could use some help with my video problems, please"

    Just a suggestion. :D
  • Meogi
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    Can't say my issue is related as I had serious lag-spikes before the latest patches, but I found the root cause to be some of my add-ons.

    Good luck to all with performance issues, is a total bummer to loose fellow players to technical related issues, especially if they are related and ZOS QA could find a common factor among the complaints.
  • badmojo
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    If what you describe is better, I'd hate to play that early alpha build.
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  • AngryNord
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    I've played early Alphas, and ESO definately isn't THAT bad
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