In my opinion: I prefer to pay a sub and have a good game improvements wout spend more money, than a F2P game, since many F2P games I've played, you need to just spend tons of money to keep your char playing.

But, as we see, including many complains, a huge delay of progress for now we dunno the future of ESO.

I'm afraid when they release console game, they will forget even more us PC Gamers.

I dunno that it's a fake or not, but according to this Interview, game won't be F2P for now, and they don't intend to do:

Paul D. Sage: No, we don’t have any plans that I am aware of to change it in the future. You know the business model is what the business model is and it allows us to deliver high level content on regular basis right now. So there are no plans that I am aware of.

Leonid Melikhov: The Elder Scrolls Online will be one of the few titles that will have subscription based service. Considering that games like Star Wars the Old Republic started out the same way but went free-to-play since subscription based model didn’t work, why not lean towards more of a free-to-play concept?

Paul D. Sage: You know again, we have no plans to change subscription plans.

Read more at http://gamingbolt.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-interview-business-model-is-what-the-business-model-is#saaGfJgXvySj2csy.99

Link: http://gamingbolt.com/the-elder-scrolls-online-interview-business-model-is-what-the-business-model-is

On the most basic level, in a subscription-based game, developers focus on delivering more content so that players will be entertained and subscribe again the next month.

On a free-to-play model, those same developers focus more on delivering cash-shop content that will entice you to buy it, with content as a distant backdrop just to keep the game going.

Both are focused on making money. One wants players to keep coming back and playing month after month, the other wants players to keep spending in the cash shop month after month. I personally prefer the former over the later as a focus goal.



Now, if we were to break down fellow gamers, I prefer the crowd of gamers that play sub-based games over those that play free-to-play games. In a sub based game we are all supporting the system. In a free to play game, those players with money are supporting those players without.

And honestly, I have little respect for those who have the time to play MMO's, but not make $15 extra in a month. Internet costs much more than that. This is the same way I feel about people who stay on unemployment even when they could go out and get work tomorrow, because it's free cash and why would they ruin it?

Cudda wrote: »

This forum is free to play (as in you dont need to pay to actively post)

I'm pretty sure you do.

The pros of F2P, for me, is the reduction of some of the absurd grinds and tedious gameplay features that are really ruining the game for me right now. Instead of paying $15/month for:

1. VR Grind
2. Epic recipe grind
3. Inventory management annoyances
4. Respec/multi spec annoyances

I'd be able to pay:

1. $2 for experience potions that make me level faster
2. $3 for the epic recipe that I've been trying to get for a while
3. $5 to unlock all inventory/bank space
4. $5 to unlock a second/third spec

This would be a much more enjoyable game for me, being able to run max-level content with my friends, easily trying out different builds, not being bogged down by my inventory when soloing/farming.

Cudda wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

This forum is free to play (as in you dont need to pay to actively post)

I'm pretty sure you do.

I know for 100% you don't :disagree:

What, do you just need an account that was once a subscriber? Because you can't just sign up.

Maverick827 wrote: »

The pros of F2P, for me, is the reduction of some of the absurd grinds and tedious gameplay features that are really ruining the game for me right now. Instead of paying $15/month for:

1. VR Grind
2. Epic recipe grind
3. Inventory management annoyances
4. Respec/multi spec annoyances

I'd be able to pay:

1. $5 for experience potions that make me level faster
2. $30 for the epic recipe that I've been trying to get for a while
3. $50 to unlock all inventory
4. $50 to unlock all bank space
5. $50 to unlock a secondspec
6. $50 to unlock a third spec

This would be a much more enjoyable game for me, being able to run max-level content with my friends, easily trying out different builds, not being bogged down by my inventory when soloing/farming.

Fixed your prices to resemble an actual expectation of what it would cost.

PROs - No monthly fee.
CONs - Everything else.

Maverick827 wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

This forum is free to play (as in you dont need to pay to actively post)

I'm pretty sure you do.

I know for 100% you don't :disagree:

What, do you just need an account that was once a subscriber? Because you can't just sign up.

Never was a subscriber. I just signed up.

I used to think all the FTP talk for ESO didn't have a hope but now the game is so messed up I am concerned. I try to play and get the super slow FPS bug and have to constantly relog. It's tough to play right now.

Cudda wrote: »

Armianlee wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

Maverick827 wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

This forum is free to play (as in you dont need to pay to actively post)

I'm pretty sure you do.

I know for 100% you don't :disagree:

What, do you just need an account that was once a subscriber? Because you can't just sign up.

Never was a subscriber. I just signed up.

You're shitting me?

Nope,

Joined November 2013

Game wasn't even out.

Also, the forums were not out either. Forums you had to sign up at release. Which I did not buy the game at release.

Didn't they just move the people from Beta over? That is how I figured I had my account here already even though I never signed up at release.

If ZOS were considering f2p, they should try some variation of Wildstar's CREDD or Eve Online's plex system to see how much demand there is for buy2win in eso.

That said, I'm not worried about eso going f2p any time soon. Maybe next year if the numbers aren't great it might be time to start worrying about f2p. But for now, no worries.

Well, my wife as an account, and she was never in beta or ever bought the game. I just signed up incase she wanted to play. I did this around February or so. So she didn't have a previous beta account.

david271749 wrote: »

I want to hear what people honestly think of what this game would/could be like under a free to play model. I'd like to see some pros and cons from everybody. I know there is a lot of debate over this, so I'd really like to hear from both sides.

There are no pro's, other than the game is littered with more garbage players and bots.

Cons:

1. Game becomes a cash grab.
2. Development Focus only on microtransactions.
3. P2W environment.
4. F2P games are always more expensive than P2P.

I am simply not going to play a game that caters to Rich People giving them everything just because money. At this point you no longer have a game, you have a cruise activity or the yacht club.

Armianlee wrote: »

Cudda wrote: »

Well, my wife as an account, and she was never in beta or ever bought the game. I just signed up incase she wanted to play. I did this around February or so. So she didn't have a previous beta account.

LOL, and here is the forum mods saying that when you no longer have any time remaining you can no longer post and only people who have active time can create an account.

If you were signed up during beta, but never bought the game, you can post. If you bought the game and cancelled your sub, then you'll be unable to continue to post when your sub expires. I let my sub expire while I was moving since I couldn't play anyway, and I couldn't post at all until all was reactivated. I don't think you can post if you try and sign up for an account after release either.

Sub = cheap
Free-to-play = expensive

I don't play so called free to play games, one reason if you want any kind of a game expereince, gona cost you far more that 14.99 a month, Con for me I would not be here..
I have tried many f2p games none of them could keep me more than a few weeks at best.