Don't say "NB", please - use "me" insteaddavidetombab16_ESO wrote: »absolutely not, I speak for pvp ( PvE sucks in this game and i no like it) Nightblade doesn t have enough selfhealth and survivability compared to other classes, and any , ANY melee classes are better then NB
5+1 Skills are to few in the end, I did not think so at first, but experience have changed my mind.
9. I'm an egotistical @#$%!
Things my nightblade VR12 can do.
1. I can sneak up on anyone in PvP and kill them in less than 3 seconds unless they either bolt escape or have friends present. Only the very very rare DK tank usually present a problem and this is mostly due to some alpha strike attack not critting. My NB does over 4000 damage on the first rotation. There are a very very few pro players that seem to survive better, but the average joe is toast, every time.
2. I can get anywhere faster than anyone, period. Between a fully specced speed horse, and maneuvers (which anyone can use) I am also a vampire/medium armor sneaker that can move way faster than someone who is not. In my gank squad I have to hold back so my teammates can keep up with me.
3. I can get into places no one else can without being seen (player or NPC). Stealth bonuses and pure stealth speed coupled with on demand instacloak = I am completely safe even in Craglorn level content no matter where I go on the map. The same is true in Cyrodiil despite magelight and detection potions, I am usually faster than the hunter and can keep myself well out of their detection range, they can never close the gap (vampire = I move sneaked as fast as they do unsneaked).
4. With a resto staff I am a competent healer, yes full on healer role. Siphons + HoT resto abilities can keep anyone alive through most any content. The only exception would be continuous 2k+ hits on someone that cant heal themselves or block correctly.
5. With a destro staff (or dual wield daggers) I am a competent AoE DPSer, I can sustain 670 single target, spike that over 3000 initially, and sustain over 1500 AoE with spikes over 3000.
6. I can tank effectively, in fact I have tanked vet dungeons in my medium armor DW build before with no issues whatsoever due to the massive self healing of a siphoner build. Having over 2600 health also helps.
7. I have yet to meet a PvE nightblade as good as I am. (this is not ego, this is just fact, every bow/dw nb I have ever met or played with in PvE content has seemed somehow inferior to my build, is it L2P or build, I do not know). I am a magicka DW/Bow Siphoner Vampire Bosmer, there is nothing difficult about that spec, but somehow I see other NBs fail at it and cry for buffs constantly.
8. I have done every piece of non trial/craglorn/group vet dungeon content completely solo, yet I hear constantly that NB somehow is not able to do this. It baffles me to no end.
Summary - Nightblade played correctly is fine, does what it does, and can excel in any role. Dont get too concerned about some 1 percenter minmaxers on Sorcs or DKs posting ridiculous youtube videos about how "awesome" they are. At the end of the day I could have made some rather awesome vids myself at one time or another, and it makes me lol to see them.
Don't say "NB", please - use "me" insteaddavidetombab16_ESO wrote: »absolutely not, I speak for pvp ( PvE sucks in this game and i no like it) Nightblade doesn t have enough selfhealth and survivability compared to other classes, and any , ANY melee classes are better then NB
davidetombab16_ESO wrote: »Don't say "NB", please - use "me" insteaddavidetombab16_ESO wrote: »absolutely not, I speak for pvp ( PvE sucks in this game and i no like it) Nightblade doesn t have enough selfhealth and survivability compared to other classes, and any , ANY melee classes are better then NB
you're too stupid to understand, shut up
Great! I think with this little crisis over I can un-bookmark this thread now.bandage106rwb17_ESO wrote: »davidetombab16_ESO wrote: »Don't say "NB", please - use "me" insteaddavidetombab16_ESO wrote: »absolutely not, I speak for pvp ( PvE sucks in this game and i no like it) Nightblade doesn t have enough selfhealth and survivability compared to other classes, and any , ANY melee classes are better then NB
you're too stupid to understand, shut up
Lol thanks man, my drink just went up my nose.
the.dzeneralb16_ESO wrote: »Just did both PVP and a ton of craglorn as DW NB stealth class.
One word of advice: Fire rune (morphed into volcanic rune) = easy mode
cigarsmoker wrote: »I can't finish the game because of these issues. I've reached Molag Bal and I cannot defeat him. I'm V1 and I can't beat the end boss because my single target damage is crap and I have no way of dealing with the group of mobs he summons because we don't do AOE and we don't do enough single target to drop the *** fast enough to be effective.
cigarsmoker wrote: »I can't finish the game because of these issues. I've reached Molag Bal and I cannot defeat him. I'm V1 and I can't beat the end boss because my single target damage is crap and I have no way of dealing with the group of mobs he summons because we don't do AOE and we don't do enough single target to drop the *** fast enough to be effective.
I have to disagree with you there, I downed molag bal on the first try with a stamina build on a nb, granted i was using bow so i could kite forever, you may just be using the wrong strategy, feel free to pm me if you'd like some advice on how to deal with the fight.
xMovingTarget wrote: »
Nightblades are fine, at least from the balance point of view. If you cannot adapt to different playstyles, this game or class might not be for you. Go staff until melee is viable or do whatever. Thats what many many players are doing right now. And its nothing wrong with it.
khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »
Nightblades are fine, at least from the balance point of view. If you cannot adapt to different playstyles, this game or class might not be for you. Go staff until melee is viable or do whatever. Thats what many many players are doing right now. And its nothing wrong with it.
Yes there is. Theres one thing. And its the one thing that matters. I and (judging by forum posts) a lot of other NB players dont find the playstyle entertaining. Were not having fun with it.
cigarsmoker wrote: »I can't finish the game because of these issues. I've reached Molag Bal and I cannot defeat him. I'm V1 and I can't beat the end boss because my single target damage is crap and I have no way of dealing with the group of mobs he summons because we don't do AOE and we don't do enough single target to drop the *** fast enough to be effective.
khele23eb17_ESO wrote: »xMovingTarget wrote: »
Nightblades are fine, at least from the balance point of view. If you cannot adapt to different playstyles, this game or class might not be for you. Go staff until melee is viable or do whatever. Thats what many many players are doing right now. And its nothing wrong with it.
Yes there is. Theres one thing. And its the one thing that matters. I and (judging by forum posts) a lot of other NB players dont find the playstyle entertaining. Were not having fun with it.
So, play a different class that you do have fun with?
I wouldn't play anything but a nightblade, as main at least.
So, play a different class that you do have fun with?
Thats the whole idea of the game, you are free to play whatever you want without any restriction. But in our case the damge of the NB/DW and NB/BOW is restricted.nerevarine1138 wrote: »oziebanks_ESO wrote: »I will save my rant about the non-working skills and passives for the end of this post, frankly we all know the issues with the NB skills.
The real issue that most people just don't talk about, is that NB is meant to be an assassin class. Save your "play the way you want" talk, we all know that the second the class system was implemented, the roles were cast.
Stopped reading there. Just because you can't think beyond the class name doesn't mean that Nightblades are exclusively a stealth-melee-DPS class. Nightblades make fantastic tanks and healers. And casters. And pretty much whatever you want.
When you finally stop thinking that classes in this game are the same as classes in other MMOs, you'll probably be happier.
cigarsmoker wrote: »I can't finish the game because of these issues. I've reached Molag Bal and I cannot defeat him. I'm V1 and I can't beat the end boss because my single target damage is crap and I have no way of dealing with the group of mobs he summons because we don't do AOE and we don't do enough single target to drop the *** fast enough to be effective.
I have to disagree with you there, I downed molag bal on the first try with a stamina build on a nb, granted i was using bow so i could kite forever, you may just be using the wrong strategy, feel free to pm me if you'd like some advice on how to deal with the fight.
Mr Bal and his cronies isn't something you can just DPS to death quickly and easily.
I was a NB VR2 (plenty of time in Cyrodiil as VR1) and I still had to run, dodge and roll away from him and his henchman and big attacks. It's an endurance fight, not something that you can just stand, tank and mash buttons with major DPS and expect to win.
Molag is an endurance fight, I also had food to help boost my stamina and health along with health potions which I drank like a cold beer on a hot day. Expect a long and drawn out fight with him. I'd suggest to keep at it, it's very satisfying when you down him. Plenty of fist pumping, yelling on my end when I had him pushing up daisies.
cigarsmoker wrote: »
I'm stacked with M/S/H food, and potions so I'm well set up for the long fight I KNEW this was going to be, and I've been dodge rolling and blocking like a champ against Molag Bal himself. It's when those titans roll in like gang busters that's killing me. Can't stealth and Invisibility doesn't work against them. There are too many shots for me to get away from effectively and I get pounded into slag.
I haven't stopped trying yet. I love this game and really enjoy playing it. It's just a matter of grinding up some more cash to buy the potions and food to keep at it.
I know I'll get there, but as of right now I'm stuck.
williams226 wrote: »
BUT Shadow Cloak is dropping after a split second pretty much all the time. I think its the Blood Craze but as I only just started back on this character I am still working it out. So I have had to drop Shadow Cloak.
williams226 wrote: »BUT Shadow Cloak is dropping after a split second pretty much all the time. I think its the Blood Craze but as I only just started back on this character I am still working it out. So I have had to drop Shadow Cloak.