Stratti wrote: »

This is to the gamers,

Endgame begins at V1 - many people misinterpret how vet works it is a small expansion in soft cap that is all. I am not much more powerful at V8 than I was at v1 stats wise (as a tank) although my experience and knowledge has grown.

Some come here to complain that vet is a grind . Which says to me that they think it's levelling . Levelling ends at 50 . Vet is a level 50 with extra buffed soft caps and better items .

So here is a list of things to do for vet points.
Solo dungeon
Public Dungeon
Cadwells quest ( I completed this at v6 in the v10 levels )
Dolmens
World Bosses
Vet Dungeons - quests are very good and vp rate is high

Content is challenging and fun.

Also guilds we have five slots - at any time I will have some 200 or so players online . Little tip do 4 trade guilds and 1 social/ grouping / dungeon guild

This isn't wow or another MMO where you will be left behind if your not v12 enjoy the endgame stop skipping it and then complaining your bored . Stop feeling anxiety that your levelling slowly when your already levelled

I'm sorry but it is more to it than that. I also had 4 trade guilds and 1 social guild. I have never had 200 players on at one time between them all. Maybe 100 if I'm lucky.

That fact is that we have 1 option to level through VR ranks..... not only that but if you choose another option it takes you an absurd amount of time. The game right now only appeals to those that want to quest through other factions or grind. They can't AvA to get through VR at an effective rate so all the PVP'er or a huge majority have left. Sure they can do it but they don't want to spend months doing it because it just becomes a grind and lots of work without a good reward or incentive to continue.

TRIP233 wrote: »

I just want the Vet Zones to fill up with people again. I'm in the Vet 8 area and there is no one to help me if I'm stuck on a quest. I don't have anyone in my guilds that could help me out. The guilds I'm in have over 100 to 200 people in them but only 5 people on at a time and some of them aren't anywhere near my level. I'm either the highest leveled person in my guild or on at the time.

I feel your pain Trip... I had to wait around for 2hrs tonight until someone else asked for help so I could finish the Dolmens and WBs in VR7. That is AFTER spending an hour and a half requesting my own help in zone chat and not getting any responses.

The fact there are so few people in VR6, and even fewer as you continue to level in the zones is a bit worrisome. It's a good indication that something is broken if people are choosing to go elsewhere, in game. Most people are actually preferring to play Alts because it is easier.

I just hit VR8 tonight and that has me worried.. Not because I can't handle most mobs and bosses on my own, but because if there is help needed, all I am going to get in response is the eerie chirp of crickets as I wait, and wait and wait some more.

Just got to say, this game is heavy rpg. Doing everything by the book and I mean questing, dolmens, world bosses, group dungeons, solo/public dungeons & crafting can equate to a few months of content

I am currently vr2 on my nightblade with 6 1/2 days of playtime, now this is 2-5 hours a day with weekends being more if I am not busy.

I do get that feeling of wanting to be max level but I've been down that road and it always ends up same where I sit around admiring my money and loot but now I'm just enjoying the game at a different pace because I know I'll get there

One of the problems is having alts (say of each class). This is where the game can become tedious because you are doing the same set of quests over & over again, plus the personal story. This being said, my other mmo is no different (gw2). If you want world completion for each alt you do the same events, zones etc for all characters.

It would be nice to see regions added to this game for level 1-50 & veteran levels. Provided there are any that can still be added to the game.

pinstripesc wrote: »

I agree, it's hard to get this through your head - I think I've only recently realized it myself. I've become exponentially more skilled at dealing with hordes of mobs, and have definitely found that a good amount of my improvement, if not most of it, has been from learning and improving as a player, rather than through numeric upgrades. The difference in gear from rank to rank is pretty insignificant. I do find the rewards in pretty much all of vet to be pretty unsubstantial and inevitable vendor trash, which has shifted my focus away from caring too much about what I'm getting out of a quest and just being content with the fact that I'm making progress.

If you let yourself obsess about your VP bar, you'll probably be disappointed. And if you're expecting fancy rewards besides what you can make for yourself once you rank up, you'll be disappointed too. But if you focus on making yourself a better player, learning your skills, trying different combinations and paying a little attention to the quests you do, you might even find yourself enjoying it.

I use a completely different loadout now than I did when I hit V1 and enjoy it much more, while remaining consistent with the playstyle I like to roll with, and no dresses or sticks were required!

Great post, fully agree.

Unfortunately, many people have somewhat of a banal and rigid view in their head of what 'endgame' is. Often drawn on their previous experiences in other MMOs. But it's not game feature that's set in stone. ESO has a different type of endgame, and as a result these people can't (or are not willing to) take the time and understand that it is different from those other MMOs, yet still an endgame in its own right.

It's a situation of 'damned if you do, damned if you don't', trying to deal with the those unwilling evolve their views as the games around them do. Everyone says they want something new and different, but with difference comes the necessity to have to think in a new way about the change and adapt. to see things in a new light. Sadly as a result, these players more often than not take the easier route of dismissing the change, and putting it (and those that have adapted/support it) down. They recite and regurgitate stats and scenarios from past MMOs, saying in effect things like 'this is the way it was then, so this is the way it should always be'.

These players hold steadfast to their static notions and find justification agreeing amongst themselves. And they're welcome to do that all they want. But the simple fact is it is not really up for debate: Zenimax themselves said the endgame in ESO starts at VR1. Anyone that's actually played the game in the manner in which is intended knows this.

Players that choose not to believe this however are usually just setting themselves up for frustration and confusion in-game. Both emotions often bleed over the forums, and by the responses here in this thread and on the forums as a whole; it's clear reading that many have. It is sad, but it is what it is.