jelliedsoup wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

Been seeing this in PvP lately, They stun ya, and you're CCed the entire time and can't break out of it.

As an nb who needs to roll out of talons 3 or 4 times before I can get out, and regularly getting stunned and being unable to break it since day 1 this post is very funny.

So wait, you think you're the only one who has to dodge roll out of talons? Which mind you breaks on dodge roll, and that somehow makes it ok for unbreakable stuns to exist?

LonePirate wrote: »

ZOS needs to give the other three classes an unbreakable stun or this overpowered NB ability needs to be nerfed.

NO. better remove unbreakable stun from NB and give 2 unbreakable stun to other 3 classes. would be awesome.=)

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

NakedSnake wrote: »

So now you are complaining about a 1.5 sec stun being unfair. Get real.

Its clearly not 1.5 seconds from the video as you can see, Its most likely breaking the Stun Break option.

You are stunned at 0:07 and knocked down with shards at 0:10
Are you a vampire OP?

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnvKToIPj7M&feature=youtu.be

Video to give ya an idea, I think it maybe Ambush that's causing it..Not Veiled Strike (though i'm hit with it right afterward, but I was stunned anyway, so maybe it doubles up on the stun or something)

Noticed this myself as well. Pretty messed up, and you can't do anything until you are dead (a good NB can kill you in 2-3 seconds currently with their sick burst damage).

NBs in pvp now reminds me of the wow patch when rogues had the highest burst damage and could stun lock you nonstop (it got nerfed of course).

NakedSnake wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

NakedSnake wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

NakedSnake wrote: »

So now you are complaining about a 1.5 sec stun being unfair. Get real.

Its clearly not 1.5 seconds from the video as you can see, Its most likely breaking the Stun Break option.

You are stunned at 0:07 and knocked down with shards at 0:10
Are you a vampire OP?

I'm not a vampire.

So its 3 seconds not 1.5 seconds, 3 Seconds sounds like the "from stealth" stun from behind, Only its not being broken as usual... (probably something with Ambush breaking it)

The reason I ask is because the last move you take before you are stunned in silver bolts. Are you a werewolf?

Nope..

That could actually be Crystal Shards, not Silver Shards

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

A. This whole "its suppose to be what NB's do" thing is rather old, You're not the only assassin in this game... This game doesn't give you the ability to be the special snow flake that lets ya stealth and one shot people or whatever moronic assumption you think applies to the Nightblade

B. It only has to be done from stealth, and it doesn't have to be in melee range. Cause it appears to be Ambush that is causing it. Also none of those two things you mentioned should give you license to have an unbreakable stun.

C. You dying because you don't know how to pop Dark Cloak still doesn't change the fact that Unbreakable stuns are broken in PvP games. Again..All those things happen to me..But I don't have an unbreakable stun..

D. as someone who's ran Magelight, Let me tell ya...Its pretty damn useless for finding stealthers. Also this moronic notion that you deserve to be able to kill anyone while solo doesn't fly in this game, Hell it doesn't fly in any game.

A) It's not old, its supposed to be part of the class. And if you are getting one shotted then sorry but you suck.

And why exactly can't we have an ability no one else has? Seems other classes have their "snowflake" abilities, so claiming we don't deserve a similar unique ability is asinine.

B ) Sorry but it IS melee range < 5meters and If you don't comprehend the difficulties of fighting in melee in this game then you obviously have never played a NB in PvP.

C) Has nothing to do with popping anything. It can only cleanse up to 4 effects and I usually get nailed with more than that. You also seem to be under the impression that invisibility somehow gives NBs immunity to everything which is doesn't AND it only lasts for 2.9 freakin' secs. Get a clue.

Again just because you don't have an ability that is VERY situational you want to strip it from us? What class do you play again so we can petition to strip that unique ability from your class that makes you supposedly OPed. If you think it's so damn powerful I would challenge you to play the class instead of spouting off.

D) Then I'm sorry but L2P. I get found plenty so you must be doing something wrong.

SaibotLiu wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Clearly, its not bad enough to get taken behind the toolshed in the game, lets come on the forum and compound the problem.

Says the guy who's calling all DK's Godzilla and being monsters while at the same time saying "But i'm amazing and I never die to them"

Now now, they are pretty Godzilla'ish. I thought this was pretty common knowledge amongst ESO patrons, unlike your "nightblade made me a paraplegic and broke my soul" routine.

Im not following you...

The fact that you think DK's are still Godzillish kind of cracks me up..

Clearly you've not fought a Blazing Shield Templar yet.

PlagueMonk wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

A. This whole "its suppose to be what NB's do" thing is rather old, You're not the only assassin in this game... This game doesn't give you the ability to be the special snow flake that lets ya stealth and one shot people or whatever moronic assumption you think applies to the Nightblade

B. It only has to be done from stealth, and it doesn't have to be in melee range. Cause it appears to be Ambush that is causing it. Also none of those two things you mentioned should give you license to have an unbreakable stun.

C. You dying because you don't know how to pop Dark Cloak still doesn't change the fact that Unbreakable stuns are broken in PvP games. Again..All those things happen to me..But I don't have an unbreakable stun..

D. as someone who's ran Magelight, Let me tell ya...Its pretty damn useless for finding stealthers. Also this moronic notion that you deserve to be able to kill anyone while solo doesn't fly in this game, Hell it doesn't fly in any game.

A) It's not old, its supposed to be part of the class. And if you are getting one shotted then sorry but you suck.

And why exactly can't we have an ability no one else has? Seems other classes have their "snowflake" abilities, so claiming we don't deserve a similar unique ability is asinine.

B ) Sorry but it IS melee range < 5meters and If you don't comprehend the difficulties of fighting in melee in this game then you obviously have never played a NB in PvP.

C) Has nothing to do with popping anything. It can only cleanse up to 4 effects and I usually get nailed with more than that. You also seem to be under the impression that invisibility somehow gives NBs immunity to everything which is doesn't AND it only lasts for 2.9 freakin' secs. Get a clue.

Again just because you don't have an ability that is VERY situational you want to strip it from us? What class do you play again so we can petition to strip that unique ability from your class that makes you supposedly OPed. If you think it's so damn powerful I would challenge you to play the class instead of spouting off.

D) Then I'm sorry but L2P. I get found plenty so you must be doing something wrong.

A. There is nothing in this game that says you're suppose to be the undisputed masters of one vs one as a Nightblade....This is really the same thing we all read in Guild Wars 2 from Thieves "But we're bad at zerging (They weren't) therefor we should be undisputed masters of 1v1" As for why you can't have an unbreakable stun as an ability no one else has? Because unbreakable stuns are overpowered in every setting they've been in. No one deserves an unbreakable stun.

B. No..Ambush isn't melee range, Please pay attention.

C. its a Cleanse that cures 4 things, that you can spam... If you don't think that insanely powerful you're a fool...

D. As someone who runs full medium armor DK, If you get found and caught on an NB, you're doing it wrong.

Stop being a bunch of cry babies insulting each other and determine if this is happening since patch and indeed not meant to happen. Bugs are introduced constantly. If it wasn't in the patch notes and reacts differently as of late start to ask questions, provide proof and wait for a dev answer. It sounds like it may indeed be a pve mechanic in play in pvp or a cc stacking issue. Again, did this occur in earlier build revisions vs now?

Right now most of you simply sound like a bunch of junior high kids throwing insults at each other over a video game.

Grow up.

I feel you're pain I really do. As a nightblade I tend to hunt other nightblades and have felt the full fury of a nice stun burst but Im just not seeing that here.
In the vid you are facing a Sorc using mages wrath and crystal blast and a nightblade using concealed weapon, ambush and sliver bolts. The nightblade comes out of stealth with ambush and at no point does he use cloak.
It is impossible for concealed to be the cause of your gripe.

NakedSnake wrote: »

I feel you're pain I really do. As a nightblade I tend to hunt other nightblades and have felt the full fury of a nice stun burst but Im just not seeing that here.
In the vid you are facing a Sorc using mages wrath and crystal blast and a nightblade using concealed weapon, ambush and sliver bolts. The nightblade comes out of stealth with ambush and at no point does he use cloak.
It is impossible for concealed to be the cause of your gripe.

Ehh, I've said multiple times I believe its Ambush that's causing it from stealth (Since its the first ability i'm hit with, and i'm spamming Stun Break at the start to get out of it)

The Crystal Blast comes well after I've been spamming stun break, so that's not it.

and Silver Bolts does nothing to me, so that's not it.

In the vid from 0:07-0:11 you are stunned then knocked down. At 0:11 you can clearly see that you begin to get back up. So at some point during that 4 sec interval you loose the stun. Whos to say that the stun did not in fact last 1.5 sec.

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

A. There is nothing in this game that says you're suppose to be the undisputed masters of one vs one as a Nightblade....This is really the same thing we all read in Guild Wars 2 from Thieves "But we're bad at zerging (They weren't) therefor we should be undisputed masters of 1v1" As for why you can't have an unbreakable stun as an ability no one else has? Because unbreakable stuns are overpowered in every setting they've been in. No one deserves an unbreakable stun.

B. No..Ambush isn't melee range, Please pay attention.

C. its a Cleanse that cures 4 things, that you can spam... If you don't think that insanely powerful you're a fool...

D. As someone who runs full medium armor DK, If you get found and caught on an NB, you're doing it wrong.

A - I never claimed that NBs should be the disputed masters of one on one. This is a very situational ability in PvP. Again, if you think it's such a superior ability then why aren't you playing a NB with it? Oh that's right because you are playing the undisputed king of the hill DK. That right there explains so much.

B - And we aren't talking about Teleport Strike genius, we are talking about Veiled Strike.

C - Spam? Again you obviously have never played the class. If we spend all of our magika "spamming" invis. (all of 3-4 times) we are dead anyways. It is FAR from a get out of jail free card like a Sorc. teleport. If you actually played the class though you would know that but, you don't.

D - Nope, doing nothing wrong and you just suck at using magelight. There are reasons why people use it everywhere, because it works (although I don't think it should work vs invis but I digress) Learn to use that skill better.

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

ferzalrwb17_ESO wrote: »

Ambush is not unbreakable. What's happening is that if you're hit with 2 CCs of different types the game loses its marbles and you can't break stun. It doesn't matter if a NB or another class does it. In the video you've got multiples going on which will mean you can't break CC.

Currently some NBs have worked out a little trick that applies two CCs fairly rapidly so that you can't break CC. All classes can and are doing this. If there's a bug to exploit you'll find it in Cyrodiil.

Combined with the lag... forget it.

That could possibly be it. I know about the two CC part (Knocked down + Piercing Jabs and Knockdown + Root)

I don't believe I was hit by anything before I could start spamming the break other then concealed blade (but that wasn't from stealth, so he couldn't of stunned me with it)

You were getting slammed there and there's clearly lag. The animations don't play out right. It's impossible to tell exactly what happened at the start. Looked a bit to me like a double-CC move.

And you're getting pack-loved which, at the moment, generally means you won't be able to go a thing until you're dead if you have any lag (whether its game/server/latency). And you do.

PlagueMonk wrote: »

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

A. There is nothing in this game that says you're suppose to be the undisputed masters of one vs one as a Nightblade....This is really the same thing we all read in Guild Wars 2 from Thieves "But we're bad at zerging (They weren't) therefor we should be undisputed masters of 1v1" As for why you can't have an unbreakable stun as an ability no one else has? Because unbreakable stuns are overpowered in every setting they've been in. No one deserves an unbreakable stun.

B. No..Ambush isn't melee range, Please pay attention.

C. its a Cleanse that cures 4 things, that you can spam... If you don't think that insanely powerful you're a fool...

D. As someone who runs full medium armor DK, If you get found and caught on an NB, you're doing it wrong.

A - I never claimed that NBs should be the disputed masters of one on one. This is a very situational ability in PvP. Again, if you think it's such a superior ability then why aren't you playing a NB with it? Oh that's right because you are playing the undisputed king of the hill DK. That right there explains so much.

B - And we aren't talking about Teleport Strike genius, we are talking about Veiled Strike.

C - Spam? Again you obviously have never played the class. If we spend all of our magika "spamming" invis. (all of 3-4 times) we are dead anyways. It is FAR from a get out of jail free card like a Sorc. teleport. If you actually played the class though you would know that but, you don't.

D - Nope, doing nothing wrong and you just suck at using magelight. There are reasons why people use it everywhere, because it works (although I don't think it should work vs invis but I digress) Learn to use that skill better.

A. I play a full Stamina DK, and I also have a Nightblade...Nuff Said

B. No, we are talking about Ambush Genius, Clearly you've not been paying attention like I said.

C. As someone with a NB, If you can only spam it 3 times, That's all on you...I can spam it far far more....

D. There are reason why people use it everywhere, and it has absolutely zero reason to do with stealth, and everything with the 20% spell crit it provides....

Bad NB is Bad... and clueless it seems.