You can choose who you give access to bank withdrawal to but you can't choose how much they take out. If you aren't 100% sure about someone, put them in the lowest rank that doesn't allow withdrawals from the bank.

I think ZOS is working on changing how the guild bank works, but until they do, the best course of action is don't give other players permission to remove items from the guild bank. You can adjust permission settings.

What I would do, if you are that worried about it, is only allow officers to remove items from the bank. You can still give others permission to deposit/ view. You can also give players permission to use the guild store without them having the permission to use the guild bank.

Bottom line: Realize that if you give everyone in your guild permission to take from the guild bank they can remove everything in the guild bank any time they want to. The only way to stop that is to limit who has access to bank withdrawal.

I just wanted to add that I don't think ZOS will interfere in situations like this... unless of course there was account theft going on. Then I would imagine ZOS would investigate.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Haven't you heard. The game is perfect as is.

It's A #1 good time game.

Sure, beta testers told them this was an issue for over a year, but obviously we were wrong.

If you don't like something about ESO, you are just playing the wrong game.

Complaining just to complain does not help anyone.

There is also stuff about negativity, QQing and whining, but I'm sure someone will come along and inform you.

Have a nice day.

I remember trying to bring this up during beta. The only response I got from the majority of beta testers was:

"Who cares if someone takes everything, it's just beta. You shouldn't put anything of value in there anyway. When I put stuff in there it's with the expectation that it is going to be taken out. We don't need to limit how much stuff people can take out. If you don't want it taken out, don't put it in the guild bank to begin with."

True story.

Tabbycat wrote: »

Blackwidow wrote: »

Haven't you heard. The game is perfect as is.

It's A #1 good time game.

Sure, beta testers told them this was an issue for over a year, but obviously we were wrong.

If you don't like something about ESO, you are just playing the wrong game.

Complaining just to complain does not help anyone.

There is also stuff about negativity, QQing and whining, but I'm sure someone will come along and inform you.

Have a nice day.

I remember trying to bring this up during beta. The only response I got from the majority of beta testers was:

"Who cares if someone takes everything, it's just beta. You shouldn't put anything of value in there anyway. When I put stuff in there it's with the expectation that it is going to be taken out. We don't need to limit how much stuff people can take out. If you don't want it taken out, don't put it in the guild bank to begin with."

True story.

That's why we're all beta testers now. The first batch was mostly fanbois.

Yup, you guys did. Edited my post.

Blackwidow wrote: »

Haven't you heard. The game is perfect as is.

It's A #1 good time game.

Sure, beta testers told them this was an issue for over a year, but obviously we were wrong.

If you don't like something about ESO, you are just playing the wrong game.

Complaining just to complain does not help anyone.

There is also stuff about negativity, QQing and whining, but I'm sure someone will come along and inform you.

Have a nice day.

haha Awesome.

I love that people are trying to blame this on game design.

You do realize that this happens in every other MMO with guild banks, right?

OP: consider it a lesson learned about trusting strangers on the internet. There is nothing the developers or GMs can/should do to resolve an issue like this.

the dev's could make it so that if you withdraw over a certain amount then you are bound for 1 year to that guild and cannot leave that guild.(or something along those lines) because basicly if your taking out large amounts of items from the guild bank then you are iether extremely loyal and diserve that stuff or your just a thief and should not have access to continue doing that to guild after guild after guild.
i dont allow any one access to withdraw from my guild bank accept for my close friends and very trusted members.

Stop using guild banks as your own personal treasure trove. Guild banks should be used for putting stuff in that guildies can take, not to circumvent the personal storage limits.

If you put valuable stuff in a guild bank and just let some random that just joined or you obviously dont know well have access to it, you probably deserve to be robbed.

Just because x game has options for storing lots of mighty loot in the guild bank, doesnt mean that is the intention for ESO. Adapt to the game, or die, and get your stuff taken.

Blackwidow wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Stop using guild banks as your own personal treasure trove. Guild banks should be used for putting stuff in that guildies can take, not to circumvent the personal storage limits.

If you put valuable stuff in a guild bank and just let some random that just joined or you obviously dont know well have access to it, you probably deserve to be robbed.

Just because x game has options for storing lots of mighty loot in the guild bank, doesnt mean that is the intention for ESO. Adapt to the game, or die, and get your stuff taken.

Why are people against common sense tools in ESO?

Common sense is taking adequate precautions so you dont get robbed. So I find that a little ironic. Do you mean "dumb proof" tools? Cause that's what it sounded like.

Ive played AAA titles where storage was an afterthought, and could be upgraded, and upgraded again, and then you can put upgrades inside your upgrades. And on top of that you have nifty guild bank filters and options. And I've played games like this where storage space is at a premium.

Either way, you have to play the game the way it was made, not just assume the way you'd prefer to play it is "common sense". You want way's of having the utility of a functioning guild bank, where you can determine who can take what and when and how many, while also keeping some stuff off limits so it can be a personal storage unit. Don't lie that's exactly what you want. Maybe you have to decide, which it's gonna be.

They may give you guild bank options, but knowing their hard stance on inventory management I doubt it. It's still not going to help people from getting robbed. Unless you plan to run a guild just to have the additional space and give nobody else access to it, which you already can do so that point is moot.

wojiaoshiyuan3 wrote: »

-<personal idea: have a withdrawal limit per day for each guild rank>-

If they made that withdrawal limit editable by the GM so they could choose how much or how little each rank could withdraw, I think that's a fantastic idea!

Blackwidow wrote: »

SaibotLiu wrote: »

Common sense is taking adequate precautions so you don't get robbed.

That is what the guild tools would be used for.

Either way, you have to play the game the way it was made, not just assume the way you'd prefer to play it is "common sense".

I love how you put common sense in quotations, as if adding guild bank tools makes no common sense.

We don't have to play the way the game is made. We can ask for changes. That is what we are doing.

You want way's of having the utility of a functioning guild bank, where you can determine who can take what and when and how many, while also keeping some stuff off limits so it can be a personal storage unit.

All but that last part.

Don't lie that's exactly what you want.

Don't troll me. It's not polite.

They may give you guild bank options, but knowing their hard stance on inventory management I doubt it.

They have never had a hard stance against guild bank rules.

They limited the personal banks.

It's still not going to help people from getting robbed.

That is exactly what it will do.

Unless you plan to run a guild just to have the additional space and give nobody else access to it, which you already can do so that point is moot.

It's called limited access.

Again, why are people against common sense tools in ESO?

Having restricted access doesnt stop anyone from getting robbed. In every MMO, this same thread eventually pops up. Like in real life, some people are really convincing online. People can earn your trust and abuse it as easily on the internet, if not more so. Maybe the person never had intentions of robbing anyone, but the temptation got the better of them. Maybe the guild fell apart, and a senior member decided to just clean the guild out while he could. It happens all the time, in every MMO since there ever were MMO's.

Just use the ESO guild bank the way it was intended, don't put crap that you don't want to lose in there, problem solved.

95% of my own personal bank items could vanish in an instant and it would not cripple me. I would be annoyed about it, but outside of a few things there's scarcely anything I can't do without. You're telling me you can not manage to exclude those few items in ESO that are actually very valuable from a guild bank?

Common sense, use it.

Im sorry you believe pointing out the obvious is "trolling you". People use guild banks to put stuff in that they want to keep and then they whine when it gets jacked, that's what your personal bank is for. If you're out of room in your personal bank, use alts. There's plenty of alternatives.

You do actually have to play the game the way it is made. There's no assurances that you will get your changes. Just because you fail to see that there is a direct link to the way guild banks are designed and their "you cant hoard everything you see" policy, doesn't mean that there is no link. It's fairly obvious to those using "common sense".

Why are people so against adapting to new things? I think it's laziness. "Yeah I don't want to change the way I play, I want the dev's to do everything in their power to accommodate me, because that's their job." Their job is to design a game, you don't have to agree with every single little aspect of their design decision for it to be a valid decision. That's life, welcome aboard.

My Guild bank was robbed a week after the game launched by zenimax's wonderful programming, lost every armor and weapon that was in the first two tabs. No one took them either, was one of the many launch bugs. It took almost 2 months for a lazy slap to the face response from CS.

You see I also lost personal bank slots and items due to a bug,they gave me 42k for that, (which just about paid for the missing slots and items) the response to the guild bank issue was the 42k was to also cover what was lost from the guild bank along with my missing bank slots.

On another note i love how the peanut gallery is attacking anyone that wants a better system, it's very amusing.

Anything I put in a guild bank I consider a gift. It is not extra storage. On the occasion I take something from the bank I make sure to leave things of at least equal value though.

a daily or weekly withdrawal limit shouldnt be too hard to code. it does suck that GMs usually set the 500 slots for themselves, I feel like im only there to bump up their member numbers for them if they dont allow both deposit/withdrawal of bank. thats when I leave