Templars in new patch with the buffs. Video of craglorn, puncturing sweep heal + blazing shield

monkeymystic · June 2014

The new changes to templars are very nice, and it is now possible be AoE selfhealing machines with 2 abilities on the bar and the rest spent on what you want.
I'm loving the changes! Nova feels like a nuclear bomb now, and damage now matches the way it looks.

Sweeping strikes now also heals a lot based on damage done (this healing part will definately get a nerf, but it's still awesome and a nice change, you don't need a heal on the bar anymore), and with the extra dmg buff puncturing got as well, this new skill is a MUST have in almost any situation since its good on both single target and against many enemies.
Puncturing sweep also does more damage now that the crit passives are working, which also means more self healing.

Here's a video example on youtube (another guy showing).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxFqCidqxw

Thanks for the buffs!

reggielee · June 2014

yes it nice. I like it too, hope they dont listen to pvp whiners and nerf us back to nothingness again

monkeymystic · June 2014

reggielee wrote: »

yes it nice. I like it too, hope they dont listen to pvp whiners and nerf us back to nothingness again

We never were nothingness. I don't get the whine from templars in pvp, we never were bad in that area (just check out the templar videos before patch using blazing shield etc).
The pve single dps was a little low however.
I did more than fine in pvp before the buffs, but its some nice changes i really like.

nan.jieb17_ESO · June 2014

reggielee wrote: »

yes it nice. I like it too, hope they dont listen to pvp whiners and nerf us back to nothingness again

Please dont call zergers pvp players. Templar was fine in smallscale just baddies in zerg were whining.

Emperor · June 2014

in before nerf hammer

Orihara_Izaya · June 2014

I fail to see why this needs to be nerfed. That templar was struggling with his MP to kill those mobs. As a sorcerer I could run in there and impulse all those mobs to death and come out smiling in half the time it takes him to do that. I'm sure a DK could do it twice as fast.

That way I see it templar's are just coming more in line with the other classes. It's all good, I need a challenge in PvP anyway.

Keep buffing Nightblades and Templar's ZOS! They need the love, i'm tired of only seeing DK's and Sorcs lol

NerfEverything · June 2014

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Sieghart · June 2014

That looked awesome! thanks for sharing. Definitely makes me want to spend more time templaring

onlinegamer1 · June 2014

NerfEverything wrote: »

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Yes, the video proves that Templar went from "not being able to do that" to "barely being able to do what DKs, Sorcs and even NBs could already do, but doing it much worse."

Malmai · June 2014

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Yes, the video proves that Templar went from "not being able to do that" to "barely being able to do what DKs, Sorcs and even NBs could already do, but doing it much worse."

Than why i did 600-1700 DPS pre-buff.

onlinegamer1 · June 2014

Malmai wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Yes, the video proves that Templar went from "not being able to do that" to "barely being able to do what DKs, Sorcs and even NBs could already do, but doing it much worse."

Than why i did 600-1700 DPS pre-buff.

You didn't.

Sieghart · June 2014

that video shows that temps are doing great. Why the hell do they need to drop a crowd of guys in 10 seconds. The video showed a person in complete control there and, if I may suggest, looked like they were enjoying themselves which is far the more important point in a game.

Ashchild · June 2014

I love this change as well. Templar is a real beef cake for soloing and being out numbered. Yet you still need to play smart.

NerfEverything · June 2014

Malmai wrote: »

onlinegamer1 wrote: »

NerfEverything wrote: »

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Yes, the video proves that Templar went from "not being able to do that" to "barely being able to do what DKs, Sorcs and even NBs could already do, but doing it much worse."

Than why i did 600-1700 DPS pre-buff.

Sure, maybe in an AoE 20s fight with ultimate pre-charged.

Funny how you missed the thread where we were giving away 50k to any templar that could break 700dps. It was on the front page for 2 weeks and no one even came close.

So yeah, you are full of ***.

monkeymystic · June 2014

Emperor wrote: »

in before nerf hammer

Puncturing sweeps will prolly be nerfed some yes, since it makes the whole leveling process a 1 ability spam with everything into 1 ability now (very high damage, AoE, strong selfheal and knockback in 1 click, repeat).

But the rest of the buffs are fine and I don't see why they should change it IMO.

Templars are much more fun to play now, and melee weapons are viable with these buffs. AoE is sick.

If anyone wonders, my templar main (vr 12) is now the best at AoE'ing packs out of my 3 chars (temp, dk, sorc, all vr).
If I'm using a melee weapon instead of staff, I feel my templar is especially miles ahead my other chars now with this dmg and heal buff to puncturing sweep in terms of aoe.

Spear shard + blazing shield + puncturing sweep is simply sick together, especially with all the dmg procs (25% chance) from aedric passives which even procs on spear shard dot. tons of aoe dmg and selfhealing.

Loving it!

If any templars still complain I strongly suggest to read up on simple eso mechanics and some of the good builds out there.. no buffs will be enough if you're doing it completely wrong to begin with.

monkeymystic · June 2014

NerfEverything wrote: »

Wow that was a long fight, probably because he ran out of magika right in the begining. Good luck trying anything like that without a shield

Ehm the new empowering ultimate now gives you 39% damage reduction even without block, which you can keep up constant...

I didnt need luck apparantly, because it was super easy to do without shield for me on my temp.
I can tear stuff to pieces with a 2H without block even. Just blazing shield, puncturing sweeps, empowering ultimate (dmg reduction) and brawler when i feel like it. Faceroll in pve. Sounds like you need to work on your build or playstyle if you are still having issues lol

JLB · June 2014

monkeymystic wrote: »

(this healing part will definately get a nerf, but it's still awesome and a nice change, you don't need a heal on the bar anymore)

I find quite ironic that, after spamming posts for weeks complaining about DKs getting nerfed saying how unfair it was, you now suggest Puncturing Sweep needs to be nerfed.
And just because now a Templar can survive (even with lower DPS and resoure management) packs of mobs as other classes do.
Hilarious.

Frankenstein359eb17_ESO · June 2014

Oh , its our friend monkeymystic again

Again back with subtle complaining about other classes have some not completelly useless abillities ?
Its just wraped in some pretty colors ?

For everyone who doent find out already : This guy is known for his crying about DK nerfs and over 9000 topics about it while trying to get nerfs to other classes .

He is doing it subtly by topics like this "Hey , look how this --insert random class other than DK-- abillity is so good EVERYONE need to use it !" and then proceed to call it so good its OP and needs nerf .
Mostly adding some wild theories about how he can spam that spell or had Ulti up 100% or kill everything in 10 km radius .
He likes to tell all around how easly you can destroy all DKs in PvP in 5 seconds with that abillity .

JLB wrote: »

I find quite ironic that, after spamming posts for weeks complaining about DKs getting nerfed saying how unfair it was, you now suggest Puncturing Sweep needs to be nerfed.
And just because now a Templar can survive (even with lower DPS and resoure management) packs of mobs as other classes do.
Hilarious.

You see trough OP pretty good

Koensol · June 2014

JLB wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(this healing part will definately get a nerf, but it's still awesome and a nice change, you don't need a heal on the bar anymore)

I find quite ironic that, after spamming posts for weeks complaining about DKs getting nerfed saying how unfair it was, you now suggest Puncturing Sweep needs to be nerfed.
And just because now a Templar can survive (even with lower DPS and resoure management) packs of mobs as other classes do.
Hilarious.

Yea I agree its highly ***. Templar only needs 2 more things. A functioning and failsave AoE cc (root/blind/unbalanced) and finally a valid way to recover magicka. After those things I would be happy and don't think we need any more buffs.

dafraorb16_ESO · June 2014

JLB wrote: »

monkeymystic wrote: »

(this healing part will definately get a nerf, but it's still awesome and a nice change, you don't need a heal on the bar anymore)

I find quite ironic that, after spamming posts for weeks complaining about DKs getting nerfed saying how unfair it was, you now suggest Puncturing Sweep needs to be nerfed.
And just because now a Templar can survive (even with lower DPS and resoure management) packs of mobs as other classes do.
Hilarious.

he is monkeymystic, the worst forum poster

Mortosk · June 2014

monkeymystic wrote: »

The new changes to templars are very nice, and it is now possible be AoE selfhealing machines with 2 abilities on the bar and the rest spent on what you want.
I'm loving the changes! Nova feels like a nuclear bomb now, and damage now matches the way it looks.

Sweeping strikes now also heals a lot based on damage done (this healing part will definately get a nerf, but it's still awesome and a nice change, you don't need a heal on the bar anymore), and with the extra dmg buff puncturing got as well, this new skill is a MUST have in almost any situation since its good on both single target and against many enemies.
Puncturing sweep also does more damage now that the crit passives are working, which also means more self healing.

Here's a video example on youtube (another guy showing).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxFqCidqxw

Thanks for the buffs!

Still slow as crap DPS and as you can see the little DPS we have isn't sustainable for more than a few seconds, then we wait, and wait, and wait for magicka to regenerate.

At least we won't die anymore though.