anyone wish they just made a better single player elderscrolls than eso?

Aureli · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

If they aren't asked to stop. I recall something like that happening once before.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

Aureli wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

If they aren't asked to stop. I recall something like that happening once before.

We can only hope, I really want to play Morrowind, I tried once before, but found moving to be too slow after Oblivion, even running I was moving at half the pace of Oblivion.

So I'm really hoping they get it done.

ers101284b14_ESO · June 2014

I'm happy with this game.

IceDread · June 2014

It's an mmo with a single player setup with optional group content.

It's obvious they are stuck in the mindset of single player games.

They should have made a mix of warhammer online and starwars online. swtor questsystem was supreme, this is, well, often boring. Lore is great but the quests, rarely any options and you are 95% of the time on a one street track where you can not influence anything. You do not have your own agenda, you follow one single minded path.

R1ckyDaMan · June 2014

Elder scrolls online rpg could of been a reality using inns and taverns as player hubs to group if you wanted to, but instead the heavy heavy compromises that come with an mmo were made, suppose the subs were too important

jnsmllrandersenb16_ESO · June 2014

They are currently working on fallout 4 and after that they will start development on the next Elder scrolls game.

So you can expect the next "singleplayer" elder scrolls game to be around 5-7 years.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

Elloa wrote: »

NOPE.

I've dreamt about a Elder Scrolls Game online, I got it, I'm happy.
I do not like so much solo game, even very good one, cause they are solo. So I'm really happy about ESO. Of course, it's not perfect, but it's good enough to make me dream and allow me to enjoy some good aventures with friends.

I guess some people are easily pleased.

Doctoruniverse · June 2014

I actually think its because seasoned MMO players are not fans of ESO because its in a way limited compared to what is out there on the market.

And some ESO singleplayer fans just dont like that steep curve when you hit veteran content.

In all the other MMO's I played I have had my "moment" it usually dosnt last very long maybe 1 day out of all the days I have played. But when you get that "moment" you are on cloud nine and this is what I remember about the MMO's I played.

Cepeza · June 2014

The answer is NO!

GeeYouWhy · June 2014

I wish they hadn't made this game at all so as not to sully the franchise.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

GreySix wrote: »

aipex8_ESO wrote: »

R1ckyDaMan wrote: »

Evergnar wrote: »

kimboh wrote: »

Of course I would love a new sp TES game but I knew this was going to be an MMO so I knew what to expect.

Pretty much this as well. Even though I'm a bigger TES fan than MMO I want ESO to be the best MMO it can be. Not single player oriented. I want to be able to experience every last thing in the game with a friend or group of friends.

They never had to create an mmo for this did they?

As a modder, I'm of the mind that the single player games should remain strictly single player. Adding any kind of multi-player, even just co-op would ruin it for modding.

Will beg to differ. I'd pay a lot more for a release that allowed cooperative play between two players.

Heck, that's the only reason we bought two copies and two subscriptions of ESO. It was a terrible disappointment for us to see the main quest locked behind solo-only play.

@GreySix, @aipex8_ESO‌, Hunted: The Demon's Forge hinted towards this some time ago. Studios share from project to project - it only makes sense. TES influence is very apparent in this particular title.

Ironically, people were calling for an Online or multiplayer version of TES then and Bethesda was adamant they were not going to go that route...ever...
(Surprise!)

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

Blackwidow wrote: »

kimboh wrote: »

Of course I would love a new sp TES game but I knew this was going to be an MMO so I knew what to expect.

Did you expect housing, underwater swimming, dueling, a law system, thieves guild, assassin's guild, a completely open world to explore, arenas, or any other the other things that ESO and MMOs should have?

Because I sure was expecting it.

@Blackwidow, I suspect much of that will be implemented in time. They'd be missing tremendous opportunities if they didn't.

I do agree about the open-world part of things...I miss being able to wander into places I probably don't belong.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

wrlifeboil wrote: »

Justiciar wrote: »

Guys didn't you hear? Every new elder scrolls game has ruined the series! Just ask dagerfall fans how they felt about morrowind. Morrowind fans about oblivion.

It has been funny to read those kinds of comments before each succeeding single player TES game gets even more popular than the one before it.

Eso is an extention of TES.

@wrlifeboil‌, well said. They are related. They are not the same. There is equal potential for each to lead long and fruitful lives. It's in Zenimax's best interest to not have one break the other in any fashion, as the uprising and financial result would be catastrophic, to say the least.

@Justiciar, Each did not ruin the series. Each evolved. Each had it's good points and lesser points.

Each was a masterpiece, in its own right. This is quite a feat to accomplish for any series, and something Bethesda has aways done remarkably well.

Historically, they have always set the standard other devs try to match, and will likely continue to do so.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Well we won't, they won't tell us about any new games until they are much further into development, because a delay is bad PR, and the minute you tell people about it delays start happening.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on it right now.

@AlexDougherty‌, they've always been very good about keeping suspense up and keeping their product under wraps until much closer to release. Good for the fans, and good for development both.

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I know, and I have to admit I would be curious about Akavir myself.
But Akavir would have to have completely new races, no Elfs or Argonians there, but there are cat people but I'm not sure if they are Khajiit.

@AlexDougherty‌, not very PC...

Don't call them that...they hate it when you call them that...

Merlin13KAGL · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Aureli wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

If they aren't asked to stop. I recall something like that happening once before.

We can only hope, I really want to play Morrowind, I tried once before, but found moving to be too slow after Oblivion, even running I was moving at half the pace of Oblivion.

So I'm really hoping they get it done.

@AlexDougherty‌, the technology cannot compare and the UI, etc is vastly different, to be certain.

Given that, if you can tolerate the slow start (and it litterally is a slow start until you build up your Athletics skill), Morrowind (GOTY edition) is still very much worth your time.

The immersion factor set the standard for all to follow and some would argue none have matched (not even follow up TES titles themselves.).

It was truly open world, blank slate, full Fog of War. You were literally fresh-off-the-boat and your defined your character as you went.

My only recommendation to you is that you wait to install (or at least enable) Tribunal until after you have completed the main story line and BloodMoon, otherwise you will find the game too easy.

Once you've gotten into it so far, you'll develop a new appreciation for how far ahead of the game they were a decade and a half ago, and you'll also understand why we weep for loss of certain features that were available only in TES III.

Enter it with the most open mind you can, and don't look at a single online map, or quest guide. Enter it naive as the character you begin with and you will be amazed at the evolution that transpires!

coryevans_3b14_ESO · June 2014

No, because I wouldn't play it.

Vuron · June 2014

I wish they would make both so all the single player TES players would play that one and quit trying to screw up, what could be, a very good MMO.

blofthouse2004 · June 2014

kind of, i was so looking foward to an online ES game.

to say this game has disappointed me is an understatement, what i dont get is the way they took out everything that made ES games so good.

All players wanted was ES but online...couldn't have been that difficult coudl it?

Riptide · June 2014

No way. I dig the SP games, and I even play solo a fair bit online - but the option of runnin with my friends? The ability to run into folks and make new ones?

Seriously, back in the early 80's this kind of stuff would have been magic. The graphics and so forth completely aside. The ability to go do things with someone from across the world? It is amazing. Not to be taken for granted. Wouldn't miss it.

GreySix · June 2014

ESO would be a much better MMO had the developers not locked so much content behind forced-solo instances.

Really think they missed the mark there, especially in regard to consideration for casual cooperative players.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I know, and I have to admit I would be curious about Akavir myself.
But Akavir would have to have completely new races, no Elfs or Argonians there, but there are cat people but I'm not sure if they are Khajiit.

@AlexDougherty‌, not very PC...

Don't call them that...they hate it when you call them that...

Yes, but the lore is rather vague, it calls them Ka Po'tun and says they are similar to Khajit, but does elaborate any further.

Are they related?, is it just a coincidence?, all these and many more questions will not be answered after the break.

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

I know, and I have to admit I would be curious about Akavir myself.
But Akavir would have to have completely new races, no Elfs or Argonians there, but there are cat people but I'm not sure if they are Khajiit.

@AlexDougherty‌, not very PC...

Don't call them that...they hate it when you call them that...

Yes, but the lore is rather vague, it calls them Ka Po'tun and says they are similar to Khajit, but does elaborate any further.

Are they related?, is it just a coincidence?, all these and many more questions will not be answered after the break.

Well, humans can be accurately described as ape-people. It's only vanity that takes offense to evolutionary ancestry.

DeLindsay · June 2014

mfxdrew wrote: »

I sometimes wish that either Bethesda took full control and made this or takes it over and fixes it. zenimax employees are sitting somewhere behind a desk asking whats wrong with our game? I am gonna be mad though when in a year Bethesda shows their new elderscroll game off.

Are you even being serious right now? ESO is an MMO and TES games are Single player. ESO is modeled after TES lore but that's where the comparison ends. Those people who seriously came to ESO thinking it was Skyrim 2.0 need a reality check. Bethesda IS working on the next TES game already, as well as the next Fallout game. Fallout's next version will hit probably a year or 2 before the next TES version does. How can anyone be so (enter your own adjective here) to think ESO was going to be the next TES game post Skyrim but multiplayer?

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

DeLindsay wrote: »

mfxdrew wrote: »

I sometimes wish that either Bethesda took full control and made this or takes it over and fixes it. zenimax employees are sitting somewhere behind a desk asking whats wrong with our game? I am gonna be mad though when in a year Bethesda shows their new elderscroll game off.

Are you even being serious right now? ESO is an MMO and TES games are Single player. ESO is modeled after TES lore but that's where the comparison ends. Those people who seriously came to ESO thinking it was Skyrim 2.0 need a reality check. Bethesda IS working on the next TES game already, as well as the next Fallout game. Fallout's next version will hit probably a year or 2 before the next TES version does. How can anyone be so (enter your own adjective here) to think ESO was going to be the next TES game post Skyrim but multiplayer?

TESO is set far in the past of Arena for a reason - about what, 700 years in the past? It'll be more than 300 years until the Septim dynasty is founded. That way, there's no conflict with the single player games, the next of which will most likely be some time after the events of Skyrim.

I think people have feared a Warcraft scenario, where WoW followed directly after WC3 (before the changes to Vanilla that the Cataclysm expansion wrought), which made the idea of any future RTS version of Warcraft superfluous.

blofthouse2004 · June 2014

i think people are miffed because we DID all think this was going to be ES but online, or at least bring some of the best elements of an ES game and make it multiplayer...but no, they didnt do that. they made a totally new game and left out a lot of good elements of ES games that make them so great.

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

blofthouse2004 wrote: »

i think people are miffed because we DID all think this was going to be ES but online, or at least bring some of the best elements of an ES game and make it multiplayer...but no, they didnt do that. they made a totally new game and left out a lot of good elements of ES games that make them so great.

But they will be adding a justice system, and thieves' and assassins' guild down the line, as well as who-knows-what. There's still a lot of Tamriel to fill out, as well as the previously unexplored continents. And maybe room for adding the Lilmothet as a playable race.

DeLindsay · June 2014

blofthouse2004 wrote: »

i think people are miffed because we DID all think this was going to be ES but online, or at least bring some of the best elements of an ES game and make it multiplayer...but no, they didnt do that. they made a totally new game and left out a lot of good elements of ES games that make them so great.

MMO's do not EVER launch with all content that's ever going to be in the game like single player games do. That makes your comment naive at best. What @isengrimb16_ESO said is correct, many of those elements are coming, as future content.

blofthouse2004 · June 2014

of course they will be adding content to ESO, but that doesnt take away the fact that the current game and the game imagined by the developers is not very akin to an ES game in so many ways.

the hype and marketing for the game prior to release and also the namesake kind of mislead a lot of people,

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

blofthouse2004 wrote: »

of course they will be adding content to ESO, but that doesnt take away the fact that the current game and the game imagined by the developers is not very akin to an ES game in so many ways.

the hype and marketing for the game prior to release and also the namesake kind of mislead a lot of people,

It's very elder scrolls 1-50. Other players I see are not necessarily a hindrance - they're often helpful in clearing trash quickly, and sometimes show up just in time to make a quest boss a total faceroll for both of us. I'm hoping for a lot of folks on prime-time EU to do the public dungeon in Windhelm this weekend.

Not in VR content yet, my main just picked up God of Schemes, but I'm messing around with a proper gaming mouse, and I want to be rock-solid with it before I attempt that noise.