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Puncturing Sweep Heals?
DeadByNow
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How much does it heal? The reason I ask is I am not wanting to drop the 25k to respec.
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Bullgar✭✭I was wondering about this myself. I've already morphed to Biting Jabs. This change to Puncturing Sweep though may convince me to respec?
Can someone post what the tooltip says?***************************
Bullgar, Orc Templar - DC
Boglar, Imperial Templar - DC
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Xozah✭✭✭http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/108042/updated-with-videos-the-new-puncturing-sweep-heal-is-amazing/p1
here's an "old" link to videos in different gear from the PTR. I have no clue if they represent the true value on live now but it might give you a hint, i doubt they changed it much.0 -
SoulScream✭✭✭✭✭Yes I was considering respec as well but feared the life gain would be low plus the huge cost to respec for one morph decided me not to. I really thought with these skill changes they would reset the skills grrrrrrrrrrrrrr1 -
Mortosk✭✭✭✭SoulScream wrote: »Yes I was considering respec as well but feared the life gain would be low plus the huge cost to respec for one morph decided me not to. I really thought with these skill changes they would reset the skills grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Hahaha. Free skill reset!! Hahahaha!
"Now I stand, the lion before the lambs and they do not fear. They can not fear." --Arthas Menethil (aka, The Lich King)0 -
DeadByNow✭✭✭Well I guess I will respec tonight and check it out. I will check it out and repost my opinion tonight.
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Xozah✭✭✭SoulScream wrote: »Yes I was considering respec as well but feared the life gain would be low plus the huge cost to respec for one morph decided me not to. I really thought with these skill changes they would reset the skills grrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Don't you have any other skills you might wanna change or try out while your at it? I'm still downloading patch and I'm gonna respec as soon as i come in to try this ability out, probably switch around some others also. Costs me 26 000 to respec.0 -
Xozah✭✭✭After some testing i must say this ability is insane.
I can pretty much drop the healing ability of my solo bar if I want to.
Before I had problems with a pack of 3 mobs in v10 area, because I had to use so much mana on healing I didn't have anything else left for dps. It was a constant balance between dps and healing, draining my mana extremely fast (v12 in full legendary).
Now i just killed 2 packs! (6 mobs) at the same time (same packs I had problems with yesterday) and had mana over to use other abilities like blazing spear speeding up the time of the fight a lot
But i guess on the other hand it's pretty sad that 1 single ability change can make things change that much. But however it's in the right direction for Templars.
I'm looking forward to future changes of Templar abilities.
I would recommend every solo Templar to respec to this ability and never take it of the bar, even if it costs you 30k+ gold to respec.
@DeadBynow here's your answer
Edited by Xozah on June 25, 2014 6:08PM5 -
tplink3r1✭✭✭✭✭
✭how much it heals? A LOT
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nqxFqCidqxw VR16 Templar
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Xozah✭✭✭After more testing i'm actually expecting a nerf on the healing, maybe something in the line of a maximum amount of target i can gain heals from. I can almost kill any size of pack with this ability.Edited by Xozah on June 26, 2014 10:17PM4
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rwood0604_ESO✭✭✭I gotta say this is stupid seems how a lot of templars were always complaining about sorcs with critsurge doing damage and healing but they only get 65% of the damage done as a heal and it is only for crits as for this templar skill is a damaging skill itself not needing a buff before hand to drain it's resource and it will always heal you for 60% reguardless of a crit or not I see many complaints coming for this skill and don't get me wrong I don't hate it myself I am just commenting on this from what I have seen through forums since the beginning. So it is just my thoughts on what will happen.2 -
Lunerdog✭✭✭✭✭Reading this thread has made me think I may roll a Templer for the first time, but then again, you just know they'll nerf it
Edited by Lunerdog on June 26, 2014 10:42PM3 -
danno8✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭rwood0604_ESO wrote: »I gotta say this is stupid seems how a lot of templars were always complaining about sorcs with critsurge doing damage and healing but they only get 65% of the damage done as a heal and it is only for crits as for this templar skill is a damaging skill itself not needing a buff before hand to drain it's resource and it will always heal you for 60% reguardless of a crit or not I see many complaints coming for this skill and don't get me wrong I don't hate it myself I am just commenting on this from what I have seen through forums since the beginning. So it is just my thoughts on what will happen.
I would still take the sorcerer one. It works on every skill, and the more you crit the more you heal. Crazy good.
The Templar one is good. But keep in mind it is melee, channelled and only on Puncturing Sweep.
Which do you think is better?
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Xozah✭✭✭rwood0604_ESO wrote: »will always heal you for 60% reguardless of a crit
40% of damage done.0 -
LordEcks✭✭✭Hopefully they wont nerf it. Honestly in a 1 vs 1 scenario it isnt that powerful, its only when you use it on large amounts of targets that is becomes an effective heal. As far as AvA if the enemy is stupid enough to group up for a circle jerk then we deserve the healing.
And the biggest difference between this and Crit Surge its that Temp is a healing class. We can actually heal for more than this ability with a single button press, now they've simply made it possible to do so while DPSing large amounts of enemies.0 -
Ser Lobo✭✭✭✭✭
✭In before nerf.
First rule of MMO's: if it feels powerful, it WILL be nerfed.
Second rule of MMO's: it doesn't have to feel powerful to be nerfed.Ruze Aulus. Mayor of Dhalmora. Archer, hunter, assassin. Nightblade.
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He'd rank ESO:TU (in it's current state) a 4.8 out of 5, loving the game almost entirely.
This is an multiplayer game. I should be able to log in, join a dungeon, join a battleground, queue for a dolmen or world boss or delve, teleport in, play for 20 minutes, and not worry about getting kicked, failing to join, having perfect voice coms, or being unable to complete content because someone's lagging behind. Group Finder and matchmaking is broken. Take a note from Destiny and build a system that allows from drop-in/drop-out functionality and quick play.2 -
catpower✭✭✭I have been using biting jabs, but this new puncturing sweep sounds really nice.
For those who were using jabs before, do you feel it is a worthy switch?
Do you miss the dps from the increased crit provided by jabs and were you using other aoe skills? Like volcanic rune, solar barrage, etc?
I'm only level 47 so have had no issues with packs of enemies, although public delves are more tricky since you get 6 or 7 at a time...0 -
Opioid✭✭✭I hope they don't nerf it. The Puncturing Sweep heal makes me enjoy tanking with my Templar again. I feel like I have the survivability of a tank instead of getting wrecked when I have 3 trash mobs beating on me.0 -
Xozah✭✭✭I have been using biting jabs, but this new puncturing sweep sounds really nice.
For those who were using jabs before, do you feel it is a worthy switch?
Do you miss the dps from the increased crit provided by jabs and were you using other aoe skills? Like volcanic rune, solar barrage, etc?
I'm only level 47 so have had no issues with packs of enemies, although public delves are more tricky since you get 6 or 7 at a time...
I switched from biting jabs. There's no chance you ever miss biting jabs. Puncturing sweep is awesome, even more when you hit vet content.
I dropped both my heal on the bar and vulcanic rune for my solo build. Have no need for either of them with this change.
Edited by Xozah on June 27, 2014 4:39AM0 -
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Whats skills do you use on your solo build? What two weapons?I switched from biting jabs. There's no chance you ever miss biting jabs. Puncturing sweep is awesome, even more when you hit vet content.
I dropped both my heal on the bar and vulcanic rune for my solo build. Have no need for either of them with this change.
Edited by Natjur on June 27, 2014 4:51AM0 -
Esha76✭✭✭✭✭I really want to do this.... But as of right now, that is the only skill I want to change, at VR1 it's 11k gold to do so. All that gold to respec everything when there is only 1 ability I wish to change.... Due to a change in a patch that failed to provide refunded skill point for said ability change.... And as very accurately pointed out, it will only be a matter of a very short time before they nerf this thing. I'd hate to blow 11k for nothing.
I'd love to start another thread about this re-speccing issue, but too many a-holes just start lecturing about what you "should" deal with or what not.
Just another thing to add to my list of things I am learning to hate about ZOS."There is no moisture in your angry stares." - Laughs-at-All
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"Old Ri'hirr likes his birds slow and stupid!" - Old Ri'hirr
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"Too many Argonians about these days..." - Davon's Watch Guard back at launch (though I think this one has been removed from game)2 -
crislevin✭✭✭✭✭
✭I spent 8.5k to respec it.
It does take one more cast than biting jabs to kill the mob.
My recommendation is not to use up all the skill points next time you respec, only spent as minimum as possible.
This is easily doable, since you probably already know what skills you use, and what skills you never use. This can save you thousands next time you respec, which you will, since they change skills all the time.
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vyndral13preub18_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭After some testing i must say this ability is insane.
I can pretty much drop the healing ability of my solo bar if I want to.
Before I had problems with a pack of 3 mobs in v10 area, because I had to use so much mana on healing I didn't have anything else left for dps. It was a constant balance between dps and healing, draining my mana extremely fast (v12 in full legendary).
Now i just killed 2 packs! (6 mobs) at the same time (same packs I had problems with yesterday) and had mana over to use other abilities like blazing spear speeding up the time of the fight a lot
But i guess on the other hand it's pretty sad that 1 single ability change can make things change that much. But however it's in the right direction for Templars.
I'm looking forward to future changes of Templar abilities.
I would recommend every solo Templar to respec to this ability and never take it of the bar, even if it costs you 30k+ gold to respec.
@DeadBynow here's your answer
This is sort of what makes it funny to me. Almost all melee templars were using this ability already in one morph or the other, why buff the crap out of it? Oh well i guess when you only have 5 skills you cant do a whole lot. It just seemed silly, buff the one ability everyone is already using.
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✭Happy with the change. It, together with the lighting stuff, are two very encouraging things. Makes me have to take back a little bit of the "risk adverse" feeling I'd been applying to ZOS.
I don't see how it could be terrible in PVP, you'd have to group up people in melee and so forth. Leave it be a while. It gives Temps a bump in PVE, which they sorely needed. Go on to other things.....respecs/banks/AH/UI stuff.
Esse quam videri.0
