Do you support a duelling function?

Acryliaub17_ESO · June 2014

here is my take on this never dying question. NO NO NO! However add it to cyrodiil let all pvprs deal with it I'm sure it is mostly them that want it.

michael21 · June 2014

Butterfly what is sad that you would want to take members out of a game with reducing numbers for the sake of their will to improve it. Disappointing, if u disagree with it, say so with a reason OTHER than saying its "in an MMO", which is a poor reason, backed by about nothing.

Esha76 · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

As long as you can turn off the flag, and deselect yourself at any time, sure why not. It would add something to the game, and if it's voluntary it can't take anything away from the game.

Anything that can only add gets my support.

Yep, this. In games where dueling occurs, it irritates the ever living hell out of me when some person runs up and starts challenging me while I'm in the middle of doing something. If added, which in itself I am not again, as long as you can have a setting preventing others from challenging you.

JungleBoot · June 2014

The dueling option would be annoying. People already do annoying things in the bank areas as it is. Next thing you know, players will be dueling inside the bank while the rest of are attempting to manage our inventory. Besides, can't you already spar with another player??

Bhakura · June 2014

If they put duelling in an arena theres no need for auto decline and what not, then you go the arena knowing full well what it means if you go there, and it fits lore and no other game has done this before. Its win win, why am i only one who sees this?

butterfly442 · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

butterfly442 wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

butterfly442 wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Assuming that the addition of a duel option would work in the following way, would you like to see it added?
1. Dueling would be completely optional with a setting that will allow you to auto-ignore all challenges so you cannot be spammed/harassed. You, the player, will have to flag yourself FOR dueling, it will not be the default.
2. Dueling will be enabled ANYWHERE within the game, NOT just confined to PvP zones.

Please feel free to elaborate on your answers!

No. But banning people for asking for it would be nice.

Only if they spam duelling requests, you can't ban people for asking to duel once or twice. You can mock them if they ask you a second time though, harshly if it's close together (ie ten minutes or less), gently if it's over that time limit.

Now use your powers wisely.

Oh, sorry, you misunderstand. I ment, Ban people in the forums that want them to waste time making dueling in an MMO.

A bit harsh isn't it, I mean it's a valid request, not one I would have made but still valis, after all quite a few people enjoy duelling in other MMOs. And if it has an autodecline option, then you will never know someone tried to duel you.

My point is, its an mmo.

An mmo with tons of broken things.

Why bring in a useless thing like dueling into a broken mmo?

MMO means, get in a group and kill ***.

Not spam useless skills in town.

DarkAedin · June 2014

its funny that the nay sayers who post blatantly dont understand the use of the dueling mechanic, or the function of it. At All.

fear not, i have come to educate!

in nearly every MMO, there is dueling. in each of these MMO's the option to turn off "duel invites" is in your settings tab - RIGHT NEXT TO "disable guild invites" - so all u need to do is turn off duel invites and no one can ever bother you about it in a fashion u are unable to ignore - EVER

dueling is a mechanic used by all manner of players for multiple reasons, but the most used reason for dueling is simple: The improvement of one's self.

for RP'ers - its a substantial part of the game play

for pve reasons, its use is great to practice your rotation/dps in a controlled fight -in lieu of a practice dummy - or to see dmg vs targets with specific mitigations

- and lets be honest, how many of us dueled while waiting for group to be filled/groupmates to show up - ie PASS THE TIME

for pvp'ers- this is an INTEGRAL part of playstyle/build progression. period.
this mechanic (duels) allow you to practice fighting opponents where;
1) u normally have issues with on the field of battle.
2) it allows you to prepare for any type of 1v1 (or for those games that have group duels --) against ANY class/build.

hands down - the best opponent in any video game is another player - not the AI.

just because many of us want to better ourselves via dueling does not mean that we are going to use duels as a bullying tool. Most gamers are much more mature then this. if this is the problem you are running into - the issue you are having is not with duels, but your inability to use the /ignore function properly

DocStockman · June 2014

KerberosSoldier wrote: »

DocStockman wrote: »

So spamming chat is the most substantial reason you have for not implementing a duel system? LMAO. Here's a protip, you can simply not read the chat sections that are being 'spammed.' It's actually pretty simple.

Except reading zone chat in Cyrodil is important to see what other groups are doing and making a decision to either support them or pick a different target.

As opposed to simply ignoring the spammers, or using voicechat for your coordination efforts in pvp?

rotiferuk · June 2014

DocStockman wrote: »

So spamming chat is the most substantial reason you have for not implementing a duel system? LMAO. Here's a protip, you can simply not read the chat sections that are being 'spammed.' It's actually pretty simple.

So I should stop reading Zone in Cyrodiil?

AlexDougherty · June 2014

butterfly442 wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

butterfly442 wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

butterfly442 wrote: »

MornaBaine wrote: »

Assuming that the addition of a duel option would work in the following way, would you like to see it added?
1. Dueling would be completely optional with a setting that will allow you to auto-ignore all challenges so you cannot be spammed/harassed. You, the player, will have to flag yourself FOR dueling, it will not be the default.
2. Dueling will be enabled ANYWHERE within the game, NOT just confined to PvP zones.

Please feel free to elaborate on your answers!

No. But banning people for asking for it would be nice.

Only if they spam duelling requests, you can't ban people for asking to duel once or twice. You can mock them if they ask you a second time though, harshly if it's close together (ie ten minutes or less), gently if it's over that time limit.

Now use your powers wisely.

Oh, sorry, you misunderstand. I ment, Ban people in the forums that want them to waste time making dueling in an MMO.

A bit harsh isn't it, I mean it's a valid request, not one I would have made but still valis, after all quite a few people enjoy duelling in other MMOs. And if it has an autodecline option, then you will never know someone tried to duel you.

My point is, its an mmo.

An mmo with tons of broken things.

Why bring in a useless thing like dueling into a broken mmo?

MMO means, get in a group and kill ***.

Not spam useless skills in town.

It's also an MMO RPG, duels annoying as they are, are useful for RPGers. There is a whole range of play styles besides pure PVP or pure PVE, and duelling fits into it.

But I do agree they need to fix the broken aspects.

DocStockman · June 2014

Hamfast wrote: »

As I posted on the identical poll from June 2nd:

If they include an auto-decline and ignore defaulted to on, perhaps I would agree to it... it's not bad enough that you get spammed with requests to Duel by those who want to measure their ePeen, but then you have to listen to them cluck like chickens or some other snide comments, hence I added the ignore... perhaps an "Instant Kill" Synergy is offered to the victim of Duel Spamming... Second request in x seconds "Hit X to Instant Kill the prat"

So, you're adding as support to your stance that being ridiculed in an imaginary world on the internet actually affects you negatively in some way? Again, some of you apparently aren't aware there's an ignore feature, or that you can actually filter your chat box in game.

Vizier · June 2014

YES

AND

OPEN WORLD PvP. Have safe zones such as the level 1-10/15 areas and then... Open the gates to PvP funness.

Make it optional. Choose your Carebear or PvP server beforehand. Keep Cyrodiil merged. simple.

Salyyn · June 2014

As said by other posts, it's painfully clear that a majority of people that say no, have never really dueled or even know how a dueling system works in game. As an avid RPer, dueling would allow for great story moments, instead of the current "[Salyyn Rysa] slashed her sword across his chest, leaving a large gash."

On top of that, one person stated that they're tired of people spamming lightshows in high crowd areas, and dueling would only add to that: No. It wouldn't. You've obviously not done much pvp, duel or otherwise. You want wide open areas, not crowded stations.

And a final note, to those complaining about "adding more stuff when things still don't work" Fixing things takes TIME. Just because it's not fixed YET, doesn't mean it's being ignored. Development teams have separate groups for introducing new things, and repairing already existing things, so adding new features in no way impacts the progress on repairing old ones. Food for thought.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

Vizier wrote: »

YES

AND

OPEN WORLD PvP. Have safe zones such as the level 1-10/15 areas and then... Open the gates to PvP funness.

Make it optional. Choose your Carebear or PvP server beforehand. Keep Cyrodiil merged. simple.

No to open world PVP, they force that on us and most of us will quit.
You want open world PVP then go to a game that offers it from the start, ie the sort of game I avoid.

Bhakura · June 2014

Salyyn wrote: »

Food for thought.

Not really, what you consider food for thought is an obvious thing to me. But then again im an idiot ...

Now THATS food for thought.

Selique · June 2014

I wonder, for all of you who think dueling would be forced: What other MMOs have you played where a player was FORCED to accept a duel request?

I mean seriously, it should be common knowledge that a /duel function would require consent. Even in real life for a duel to happen, two people need to agree on it. Otherwise its just a random fight, and not a duel.

I understand wanting an auto-decline option. That makes sense.

Also, I cannot understand people who think adding OPTIONAL content should not be allowed? I seriously doubt it takes THAT much Developer time (so that isn't an excuse), and I really think that if you don't want it, you don't need to participate in it. Plain and simple. Let those who want it, have it. Besides, maybe one day YOU'LL want it too.

Apophiss · June 2014

There needs to be a 3rd choice:
Other - Explain
I am not against adding duels, but there HAS to be designated areas where this is possible.
NEVER, EVER, UNDER ANY CONDITION SHOULD DUELS BE ALLOWED IN TOWNS.

Hamfast · June 2014

DocStockman wrote: »

Hamfast wrote: »

As I posted on the identical poll from June 2nd:

If they include an auto-decline and ignore defaulted to on, perhaps I would agree to it... it's not bad enough that you get spammed with requests to Duel by those who want to measure their ePeen, but then you have to listen to them cluck like chickens or some other snide comments, hence I added the ignore... perhaps an "Instant Kill" Synergy is offered to the victim of Duel Spamming... Second request in x seconds "Hit X to Instant Kill the prat"

So, you're adding as support to your stance that being ridiculed in an imaginary world on the internet actually affects you negatively in some way? Again, some of you apparently aren't aware there's an ignore feature, or that you can actually filter your chat box in game.

Please read what I posted... instead of an "Auto-Decline" it's an "Auto-Decline and Ignore" mostly because I don't much care to deal with them... does it affect me negatively in some way? if I have to put up with the idiotic behavior then yes, it's affecting me negatively... Do I understand the benefits to Role Players, I do, I also understand the benefits to PvPers trying to deal with setting up the best rotation they can against moving targets, see reasonable... what I find unreasonable is the barrage I used to have to deal with when leaving that Orismer City in that other game... to be badgered by someone asking me to fight with them... if you enjoy that aspect, more power to you, I do not.

ttwinklerub17_ESO · June 2014

Arenas people...ARENAS

the fact is ESO or ZOS said a justice system is coming that means Dueling players that steal or attack others is coming
so is Dark brotherhood (assassinating people)

what I want to see is the arenas come back in all regions
and see a arena leader board for 1vs1 2vs2 3vs3 and 4vs4
(also 1vs2, 1vs3,1vs4..2vs3,2vs4 and 3vs4)
and betting and an actual stadium where we can go watch people duke it out
(and then grumble about our losses...too bad we can't tear up betting stubs).

it's also fun it is to work your way up the ranks against other people in your region
and in all regions to become grand master of the world

It's also nice to take a date/significant other to the arena to watch the matches - because in this world we don't have monster truck races

come on we need social hubs and places to visit to hook up

Bhakura · June 2014

Hello? Anyone out there with a brain?

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No need for dueling functions auto accept, auto decline autowhateverthecrap

Vunter · June 2014

Yes, but only if it doesn't mean more nerf threads

DarkAedin · June 2014

Apophiss wrote: »

There needs to be a 3rd choice:
Other - Explain
I am not against adding duels, but there HAS to be designated areas where this is possible.
NEVER, EVER, UNDER ANY CONDITION SHOULD DUELS BE ALLOWED IN TOWNS.

So rp'ers cant duel in taverns? thats playstyle-ism!

claudosan · June 2014

Yes to designated duel zones, say Craglorn. Otherwise, designated duel areas within zones, which are showable on maps through a toggle. Also, never in the towns within these zones and 200 m from the borders of these towns.

Options regarding duels should be accessible using the ESC key through the menu:

-Accept Duel Invites from Friends
-Accept Duel Invite from Guildmembers
-Deny All Duel Invites

rotiferuk · June 2014

Salyyn wrote: »

As said by other posts, it's painfully clear that a majority of people that say no, have never really dueled or even know how a dueling system works in game.
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Really? I played Neverwinter for a while. That had duelling. There were people leaping about all over the place. It was the most ridiculous game I have ever played.

Salyyn wrote: »

As an avid RPer, dueling would allow for great story moments, instead of the current "[Salyyn Rysa] slashed her sword across his chest, leaving a large gash."
.

Nonsense. The only reason you want duelling is to attack new players. My guess is you are scared to enter Cyrodiil.

Salyyn wrote: »

On top of that, one person stated that they're tired of people spamming lightshows in high crowd areas, and dueling would only add to that: No. It wouldn't. You've obviously not done much pvp, duel or otherwise. You want wide open areas, not crowded stations.

Human nature being what it is, there would be "lfd" (looking for duel) spam and there would be duelling in the streets. banks, shops, etc.

Bhakura · June 2014

Why does everyone make it that complicated? I dont get it, its the simplest thing you can do ...
No need to accept anything, or decline anything, put an arena in a major city hub, queue up, system checks level and participants and poof youre in, have fun duelling, you win, great achieved the "im the baddest badass of all badasses" title. And it fits lore ... theres been arenas in ES games like ... they even made a game called arena ... oh wait, first elder scrolls game?
Really not getting why you people are complicating things with open world pvp, accepting decline duel requests and what not ... its so easy it hurts.
if i was a dev i wouldve slapped them arounf the ears for not having this to begin with.

Salyyn · June 2014

rotiferuk wrote: »

Salyyn wrote: »

As said by other posts, it's painfully clear that a majority of people that say no, have never really dueled or even know how a dueling system works in game.
.

Really? I played Neverwinter for a while. That had duelling. There were people leaping about all over the place. It was the most ridiculous game I have ever played.

Salyyn wrote: »

As an avid RPer, dueling would allow for great story moments, instead of the current "[Salyyn Rysa] slashed her sword across his chest, leaving a large gash."
.

Nonsense. The only reason you want duelling is to attack new players. My guess is you are scared to enter Cyrodiil.

Salyyn wrote: »

On top of that, one person stated that they're tired of people spamming lightshows in high crowd areas, and dueling would only add to that: No. It wouldn't. You've obviously not done much pvp, duel or otherwise. You want wide open areas, not crowded stations.

Human nature being what it is, there would be "lfd" (looking for duel) spam and there would be duelling in the streets. banks, shops, etc.

1: I played Neverwinter as well, and that game was a steaming pile of *** as far as common sense is concerned.

2: I'm not sure how RP context even fits into being "too scared to enter Cyrodiil" and besides, in Wabbajack campaign, I was in the top 300 for the final week, so yes, I do go to pvp regularly.

3: When I said spam, I referred to people repeatedly casting skills, such as Healing Springs, or Siege Shield, or any other skill with a large aoe effect. And what part "You want wide open areas" didn't you understand? On a side note, in any other game with the normal dueling, there's never been "chat spam" for people looking for duels, sure, one person might get annoying, but you can ignore the idiot like the rest of people that use common sense.

Tandor · June 2014

I wouldn't be bothered if duelling was introduced in Cyrodil in about a year's time, i.e. when the other more pressing issues had been resolved. I don't, however, want it in the rest of the world because it would mean there'd be regular duelling locations that had to be run through with all the chat and other distractions that involves, as well as the loss of immersion in an ESO game by duelling within the players' own faction. It's a form of PvP, so keep it in the PvP area. Alternatively, have an arena in the open world where duelling can take place.

To be clear: I have absolutely no problem with people being able to elect to duel (given an auto opt-out as suggested), provided it is restricted to PvP areas and/or specific arena locations and is placed at the bottom of a long list of game additions/improvements.

drogon1 · June 2014

I vote yes. Player options are always good for an MMO. I don't understand why anyone would care if it were put in (assuming autodecline is also put in).

michael21 · June 2014

Awful idea to have auto ignore, maybe in the future you will wanna deal with them, or buy something to them or sell with them. The function with auto decline makes it so you don't even know you've been challenged, so it shouldn't bother you. Also i do think they could make it better than this. They could have a central dueling location in each zone, where players could go if they want to duel, and challenging could only occur in there, or if u allowed challenging in banks and stuff, it could instance them out so you aren't bothered by it. in cyrodil it could be something different, maybe imperial city but thats not what this post is directed to.

Salyyn · June 2014

Tandor wrote: »

I wouldn't be bothered if duelling was introduced in Cyrodil in about a year's time, i.e. when the other more pressing issues had been resolved. I don't, however, want it in the rest of the world because it would mean there'd be regular duelling locations that had to be run through with all the chat and other distractions that involves, as well as the loss of immersion in an ESO game by duelling within the players' own faction. It's a form of PvP, so keep it in the PvP area.

To be clear: I have absolutely no problem with people being able to elect to duel (given an auto opt-out as suggested), provided it is restricted to PvP areas and is placed at the bottom of a long list of game additions/improvements.

This post reminds me of someone's post in my Immersive Sleeping thread, found here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/106627/sleeping-in-beds

Why are people so against adding new things? It's not invasive, or immersion breaking, and for the most part, the features that people request would ADD to immersion. Someone pissing your character off? Challenge them, and drive a sword through their chest.