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Would you want an ingame VoIP system in ESO?? Should be toggleable (Obviously).

gidianbatemanrwb17_ESO
gidianbatemanrwb17_ESO
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I don't know if this has been asked already or if it would even be possible in a game as large as ESO, but here I go anyway.

What do you guys think? I got the idea from games like DayZ, ARMA3 and the upcoming H1Z1. This would add a lot especially to role playing and group communication (even though you could use an external app like teamspeak ect. but who wants to give their teamspeak info to random people they met with group finder, that's to say if they even have teamspeak installed...

They could maybe even add the following modes, bound to different key bindings (more or less like side chat):

Group chat - only speak to people in your group.
PM - Only speak to one specific person (Could be selected in the quick slot wheel thingy).
Perimeter chat - speak to all people in an area surrounding you.

And obviously you should be able to prevent people from talking to you, whether it be a single person (troll/stalker) or entirely disable all incomming voice chat.
Please answer and discuss!!

I have to add that ESO is my first MMO I really put a lot of time in to, and this is my first post on these forums so please be gentle.
Edited by gidianbatemanrwb17_ESO on June 26, 2014 11:21AM

Would you want an ingame VoIP system in ESO?? Should be toggleable (Obviously). 86 votes

Yes
48%
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No
51%
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  • Spiritreaver_ESO
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    Yes
    I voted yes as i am not against the idea in the slightest. But imo i think it would have to be something ZOS not even think about implementing until they get a handle on the game as it is atm.
  • fromtesonlineb16_ESO
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    No
    LOTRO has it, no one uses it, those that want to use voice chat choose to use the well known third-party tools like Teamspeak, Ventrillo, Mumble, etc.

    Not sure about "give out their teamspeak info", I'm in several guilds across several games and only one of them uses Vent on a system of their own.

    There enough wrong with this game to keep ZOS busy for months, they don't need more distractions.
    Edited by fromtesonlineb16_ESO on June 26, 2014 11:29AM
  • Merlin13KAGL
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    No
    There are plenty of other options outside of ESO for this, supported by their respective vendors, proven, and able to be managed without the help (or requirement) or ZoS.

    A few reasons for this:
    1. ZoS has enough on their plate trying to get things working as they should with what they already have.
    2. It's one more thing for them to have to also monitor...(We all know grown-up words aren't allowed in a mature-rated game.)
    3. The only thing that would be more irritating than some of the chat nonsense that makes its way through would be having that same nonsense vocalized.

    Third party apps abound and work great. We use TS3 private server, have no issues, and can manage who we want to have access when we want them to have access.
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  • Audigy
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    The issue with VOIP is always that it can backfire big time if abused.

    Lets say, what would happen if people demand that you use it to group with them? This would screw everyone who wants to play without such a tool, it could become as bad as recount and DBM at wow - where if you refuse to use it, you are instantly kicked.

    That said, if you don't use mumble or TS you will also be kicked from any group at WOW.

    Another issue is that players could abuse these tools to insult others. Yes you can ignore those, but only after they insulted you.

    Last but not least it would break the immersion if a cute looking Breton, talks like a 12 years old boy :D


    I am not against it, but I am also not for it. To me using VOIP only works among friends and I would probably have it deactivated in ESO.
  • Razour
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    No
    As others have stated there are plenty of other options available and I would prefer that ZOS stick to the knitting rather than adding unnecessary extras that could add further complexity/load.

    Besides I like having voice separated from the game so that when the game crashes I can tell people what's going on and, for example, ask to get kicked from the group whilst I log back in.
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  • mndfreeze
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    Yes
    I brought this up way way way back in beta about how awesome it would be if it was implemented similar to how Rust is. That way you can be on your guilds teamspeak, but also have in game sound and voice come through and having it localized similar to Rust would add in the ultimate RP'ers wet dream, since they want chat bubbles and all that. You would legimiately get to walk by people having a conversation and pick up part of it as you ride by, like the real world is.

    Of course it needs to be a hotkey'd or toggleable abilitity, and you need to be able to ignore people or even completely turn it off if you want I suppose, since in this game, and unlike in Rust, your life doesn't depend on telling someone you stumble upon that your friendly and you promise promise promise you wont bash his head ion with this rock in your hand..
  • k9mouse
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    No
    No! I do not want to be forced to use voice chat For example,

    "Hey come our group for a dungeon!"
    Sure!
    ~everyone talks on voice expect you~
    gets no reply when ask a question, say something funny or RP or people write "LOL" to something funny, but you can not reply to that because when people use voice chat, they do read text chat or reply to you -- been there and done and it sucks apples!

    Why should I be forced out of dungeons (content that I pay for) because I can not used / have a mic? (I will not go in why I can not used a mic)

    It makes no difference if it is so called "Optional" or not because if you do have that so called "option" turn on, one will lose content. Thus, It will be forced upon you anyways.
    Edited by k9mouse on June 26, 2014 11:52AM
  • Heishi
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    Yes
    I refuse to use VoiP but I respect those that enjoy it. As long as it was toggleable, I don't really care
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  • Elloa
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    No
    I do not find this a needed features. I'd prefer Zenimax to focus on what matter.

    Beside I do not think ESO is a game that would beneficiate from it. For my other MMO I'm usually often on TS with my guild to chat, on ESO, I avoid to be on TS, cause I do not want poeple chat to break my immersion :p
    Edited by Elloa on June 26, 2014 12:11PM
  • Omnevolus
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    Yes
    Everquest 2 did this, it was more than welcome and never a problem. Many people who had never used voice chat software in-game finally started testing the waters and jumping in. Nothing bad came of it, a lot of good did.
  • Erlindur
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    Yes
    Yes BUT...

    Not now. The game has way too many issues that need to be addressed first. To me is more like a nice candidate for upgrade 2.3.x or something.

    And if you want to implement it nice, post a new thread in the developer discussions before you even start implementing it. That thread will notify people that the topic is for a distant future feature. There you can have a nice theoretical discussion about how it should work. It would be nice if the actual devs who would have to eventually implement it, post in there regularly about what is possible and what is not. A nice friendly brainstorming with the community before they actually start coding it.
  • Falmer
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    No
    Nope. There are options already out there for the die-hards that demand it. Introducing it as a in-game option just encourages others to get lazy and use it too. Suddenly it becomes yet another demand and/or limitation to grouping up.

    This was the thing that killed LOTRO for me many years ago when suddenly everyone demanded a voice active group. I dropped playing MMOs at that point for a long time since I just figured this would become standard tech and MMOs at the time were all about grouping to be able to defeat most of the content.

    SWTOR honestly was the first MMO that brought me back simply because I heard you could solo all the way to the end. So I could at least skip all that group voice nonsense. Now the only MMOs I even give a passing glance to are those that are solo-able, or that don't have built in voice tools.
    Edited by Falmer on June 26, 2014 12:17PM
  • Riptide
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    No
    Forced to vote no, not because I think it is a bad idea necessarily, but because there is such a significant list of other things that need to be done that I am fine with 3rd party solutions.
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  • Aeradon
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    Yes
    As long as it doesn't come with more bugs and complaints.
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  • SBR_QuorTek
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    No
    Same as someone mentioned up there, even with MMOs supporting it, it is rarely used so it would be a waste of resources.

    If I make a group for content where I want people to use a voIP due to content, if they don't get on it they get removed from group and replaced by someone who is willing to.
  • dennissomb16_ESO
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    Its a resource/reward issue unfortunately. It is good idea on paper and having the option to use a game VOIP can be very useful, but once again history seems to be against it. I like the idea from a simple point of view. When pugging people often ask you to use whatever VOIP they are using, means having several systems on your pc etc, authorizations, passwords etc. Having an in game system would help

    Unfortunately like people have posted, players don't use it. They still prefer to use their own system. WoW introduced a workable in game VOIP, and it just never got used and ended up being wasted resource that could have been put somewhere else
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    Yes
    This is why I'll be moving to console (Xbox One)
    The little things tend to go a LONG way. And hopefully zone chat is removed from console as well.

    I do appreciate native voice chat in game on PC and console and honestly it would provide an option for a better experience for some.

    Now I also cringe when I played WoW for years and looney tunes would get on the mic and b;ah, blah, blah throw up all over the raids and group chatting.

    If they add this it for sure will have the option to turn on/off and perhaps in larger groups the group leaders can turn on and off certain players.
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  • Dusty5
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    No
    No. There are several VOIP setups out there to use. 1.st ZOS is working on console release. Nothing else is going to be added to the game that might slow that down. 2. We waited roughly 11 hours for 1.2.3 patch there are 40 issues that they will admit to and list Do you really what VOIP with that kind of quality? IF so get yourself 2 tin cans and some string. Your workmanship will be better and it will not be a multi-month wait. Customer service thread is up to 467 pages now why ask these people for anything we know how its going to end.
  • Loligo
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    No
    Not needed. Should not be included.

    If ESO was perfect and completely bug free, then, maybe.

    However, there are plenty of good voice programs out there that work well and are supported by their tech teams.

    I want the ESO team to spend its time making sure the ESO GAME works - evolving content, bugs being fixed, performance improved, and customer service.

    Leave the VoIP to the people who specialize in VoIP. the ESO team doesn't need an albatross like VoIP to deal with. Let them concentrate on the game.
  • Omnevolus
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    Yes
    I must be from a different reality, or something. Because in EQ2 this whole "groups will demand voice" thing simply never happened, and the whole "wasted resource" thing didn't either. It worked just as well as a third-party program, if not better (and therein may lie the difference), so no one arbitrarily held on to their third party voice chat option habits. In fact, most people preferred it because it meant they didn't have to run another program in the background while they played their game.

    Oh, gotta go, Rod Serling just got here.

    But I can make him wait for just a quick caveat: I agree with some of the above posters who make the very good point that there are many other wrinkles and kinks that need to be smoothed out before somewhat frivolous extras like this are considered.
    Edited by Omnevolus on June 26, 2014 4:00PM
  • ArRashid
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    Yes
    I voted yes as i am not against the idea in the slightest. But imo i think it would have to be something ZOS not even think about implementing until they get a handle on the game as it is atm.

    this
    and make us be able to mute clowns, trolls and other annoying kids though..
  • Morticielle
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    No
    1. Zenimax is not able to give us a game without a large number of relevant bugs. What do you think will happen if they try to integrate VoIP?
    2. There are enough VoIP-programs already (Teamspeak, Ventrilo, Mumble, Skype), who actually work quite good. Why should any game have their own VoIP? There is NOT a single good reason for this!
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  • SilverWF
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    No
    Not
    At least - now
    There is much more problems in the game to be focused on, over VOIP
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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    No
    Lag is bad enough in the game, why make it worse by having to dedicate server resources to running it?
  • IrishGirlGamer
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    No
    Since you asked, I'd prefer they focused their energies elsewhere.
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  • Cybrdroyd
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    Yes
    Why this game wasn't designed from the ground up with voip in mind is completely assanine to me.
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  • Anex
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    Yes
    Said it in the beta.. that went no where. The game is too FPS in play style to make typing in chat viable. A game that KNOWS it is already this way is better to integrate such communication. I know there's third party programs, but it would just make it smoother for everyone.
    Lag is bad enough in the game, why make it worse by having to dedicate server resources to running it?

    Just because YOU have lag, doesn't mean everyone else does. I am in France playing on NA servers with no noticeable lag. /shrug
    Edited by Anex on June 26, 2014 5:22PM
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  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    No
    Anex wrote: »
    Said it in the beta.. that went no where. The game is too FPS in play style to make typing in chat viable. A game that KNOWS it is already this way is better to integrate such communication. I know there's third party programs, but it would just make it smoother for everyone.
    Lag is bad enough in the game, why make it worse by having to dedicate server resources to running it?

    Just because YOU have lag, doesn't mean everyone else does. I am in France playing on NA servers with no noticeable lag. /shrug

    you are a damn liar lol.
  • Tandor
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    No
    I don't see a problem with having it if people want it, it takes its place in the queue of improvements/fixes, and it doesn't impact on anyone's performance.

    However, I neither need it nor want it personally.
  • Sov713
    Sov713
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    No
    No it is bad enough to have to read what you people type I don't want to be forced to hear you too.
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