Sirropo wrote: »

Whats best way to level up Summoning ?
Since Crowd-Control nerf, having to get these stupid pets to help with survivability.

I submitted a Bug Report, Delays Progress
Due to the crowd-control nerf, this character is having to spec into Summoning to contend with the multiple MOBs this game throws at you.

Because of this NEW spec, this character is having to go to lower level zones to level-up this new Summoning spec, hence, "Delays Progress" ..thanks for switching horses mid-stream.

I can understand why EOS would nerfed Crowd-control, but it should have been done months ago before players settled in on a play style.

IMO, Crowd-control nerf has pretty much pigeon-holed all Mage type players into Summoners ...so much for diversity.

A summoner needs 2 slots on each bar so you only have 6 "skills" to slot between both weapon bars.

If you want Inner Light that is 3 skills on both bars.

Oh and in vet zones your summons die in 1-2 hits from every mob and Empowered Ward is gone in one hit, so you don't even get to enjoy the damage bonus it gives your summons.

[quote="Soloeus;1039128
A summoner needs 2 slots on each bar so you only have 6 "skills" to slot between both weapon bars.

If you want Inner Light that is 3 skills on both bars.

Oh and in vet zones your summons die in 1-2 hits from every mob and Empowered Ward is gone in one hit, so you don't even get to enjoy the damage bonus it gives your summons.[/quote]

Yeah, thought about that, the slots Summoning would require ...trying to refigure this crap out is gonna suck.

I am not after a damage bonus, just want to give the MOBs something to chew on other than my in-game toon, but if what you say is true about pets dieing so easly in vet zones, appears survivability is going to suck any which way you go.

BTW, I noticed that ESO has given some MOBs the capability to break CC and make their selves immune to CC besides the "auto-immune", just seeing that with this patch.

Thanks guys ...guess maybe ESO is back-peddling on this game catering to solo play because my other option as implied, is grouping ...but be good idea to level Summoning anyway ...was almost to vr5, now Im back to lower zone to get Summoning leveled up some.

Haven't had the chance to play much since the patch, so my experience with the new stuff is limited, but...

My ususal play style when fighting groups is to mez one, nuke the other. And if there are three or more I decide depending on the mob type to try to AE them, kite, take a beating and use heals, equip armour buff, etc. I often try to use the tank pet, but it was always annoying that it attacks random targets and breaks cc.

• Pet Control is awesome, mez one, sic the pet on the other, nuke the rest. Solo Elite fights, call back pet when mezzing for dark conversion. Un-cc'able bosses, call back pet out of hard attacks.
• Pet Control does not work for the Twilight pet, can anybody confirm that? Is that again a case of ZM doing one thing right and in addtion break multiple others?
• I can't understand the complaints about the survivability of the clannfear, only with him I was able to solo the veteran version of the alchemist quest in Deshaan and other non-cc'able elites. It definitively does not die in two hits. Yes, it is not the wow hunter tank pet, not the DAoC sorcerer ruby pet, etc. Yes, it does not make sense to always have it on your quick bar and waste a precious slot, but there are enough solo situations where using the pet is a valid tactic.
• What about the cc changes? I tried to re-mezz animal, undead and human mobs yesterday and it seemed to work. I'm not sure about the short stuns from crystal blast, though, they might have been shorter or sometimes not working at all, but this I have to test again. So what exactly was changed?

For reference I'm a fully heal specced V3 sorc (tested yesterday in Shadowfens) and since a few levels I have basically all usefull and many useless damage abilities and passives from the class lines, destro and resto staff and guilds and sitting on 10 spare skill points, meaning my options won't change much during the next levels.

Just leave clannfear summoned and let it do whatever it is that clannfear do. Most of the times nothing, they just stand there looking dumb while you're dying, or just run straight to the mobs after you reserrect and summon it again.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

Before the patch I could cast a CC spell on a mob and some Idiotic player would dutifully run up to the mob and hit it. /facepalm

Not sure what your level is or skill is but throw 4 summing skills on your bar + impulse and go to Craglorn and pull the packs of critters and AE them down. Avoid the humanoids.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

mndfreeze wrote: »

I think the CC changes the OP is talkijng about is the changes that now NPC's can break CC like players do

Er, pets have always broken CC, I think you're confused about something.

Before the patch I could cast a CC spell on a mob and my clannfear would dutifully run up to the mob and hit it. /facepalm

I'm hoping the new 'go attack that one' control means I can send my pet to one while I can CC another in peace .. of course with the pets tail-swipe AOE I still need to pull the mob I want to CC away from the other. /sigh

If you read the OPs post he says because of the new changes to CC he now has to level up summoning for survivability. Now if pets breaking CC was his problem, why would he be leveling up summoning for more pet stuff?

So I think you are a bit confused by something. One surely wouldn't switch from not using pets to leveling and using them if they were the root of his problem to begin with.