Keep the 100% silvershards...but only in day time
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Vampires have no disadvantages when being in daylight. Keep the 100% proc, or maybe put it down to 75%.
Hopefully it will encourage more people to join the fighters guild and become stamina users!
Currently silvershards is the best stamina ability. But I assume soon it will be fixed back to its normal rate, leaving stamina users the weakest again.
Edited by Valn on June 25, 2014 4:35PM Hopefully it will encourage more people to join the fighters guild and become stamina users!
Currently silvershards is the best stamina ability. But I assume soon it will be fixed back to its normal rate, leaving stamina users the weakest again.
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How about no? Try to see the whole picture and how wrong it is to hit players with 2k+ damage with that high proc rate. As a stamina user, sure I would love some improvements in that area and what I heard they are looking into to it. To 1 shot players is taking it too far though, even in daytime only.
When I became a vamp after much hesitation and thinking I knew what I was signing up for, this was not it and will be fixed.4 -
Think you are trolling but w/e.
Vampires have weaknesses already: 9% wpn/spell damage from Slayer - Fighters guild passive, 50% more fire damage taken, needing to feed to keep HP regen from decreasing. And now we should add being 1 shotted in PvP aswell? Nooo0o0o0o! >_<3 -
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/agreeleovuoeb17_ESO wrote: »Think you are trolling but w/e.
Vampires have weaknesses already: 9% wpn/spell damage from Slayer - Fighters guild passive, 50% more fire damage taken, needing to feed to keep HP regen from decreasing. And now we should add being 1 shotted in PvP aswell? Nooo0o0o0o! >_<
Do you know how tough it is when more than 70% of the time there's a fire mob or user?
Plus we have to constantly feed to keep the health regen up. I realised that when I try to level other skills in VR and no longer place vamp abilities on the bar. VR is really a reality slap.Edited by Aeradon on June 25, 2014 5:39PMPeople keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
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Welid✭✭I think this point about the 50% fire damage is a valid point. I honestly believe being a vampire in Vet lvl's is a massive disadvantage because there are a lot of mobs who use fire and it hits hard! This is why we have so many players opting for a build and then complain is not working for them.
This issue with silver bolt is a bug, there is no way is intended.Edited by Welid on June 25, 2014 5:55PM1 -
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✭I de-vamp'd because it wasn't beneficial to be a Vamp. I was a vamp and even beat Molag Bal as one, but when I hit the vet zones, I couldn't even stay alive with it. I had to get it cured and change the fun way I was playing into a boring way of playing to stay alive.
So much for freedom.
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Raash✭✭✭✭How about a skill to smack down a pole into the chest of a vampire if they are knocked down to get a 100% istant kill? That would actually make sense I think.1
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✭Give vampires a instant kill ONE hit ranged skill during night time , they can use any living being.
Oh and make days/night last the same also."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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✭While I don't agree with one-hit kills against Vamps, I do find it a bit odd they suffer no penalties during the daytime.Edited by Lord_Draevan on June 25, 2014 6:05PMI'm a man of few words. Any questions?NA/PC server1 -
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✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »While I don't agree with one-hit kills against Vamps, I do find it a bit odd they suffer no penalties during the daytime.
Maybe it is because they dont get anything at night time either.
And even if they did , it would need to be something quite awesome , since nights are so short in this game."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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✭✭✭Vampires have no disadvantages when being in daylight. ...
If they made Vampires take Sun damage like we had in Oblivion or Morrowind, then I would actually consider playing a Vampire.
Your idea is interesting, but I would rather see Sun damage applied."If you want others to be happy, practice compassion. If you want to be happy, practice compassion." -- the 14th Dalai Lama
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✭Nox_Aeterna wrote: »
Maybe it is because they dont get anything at night time either.
And even if they did , it would need to be something quite awesome , since nights are so short in this game.
Well in previous TES titles, you took Sun Damage or had virtually 0 stamina regen in daylight if you hadn't fed in a while, but you had no benefits during the night. The benefit was you had no penalties :P
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aipex8_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Taking sun damage wouldn't really work in this game. It works in TES games because you can sleep or wait until night. Here, there's no way to do that. How would I get around as a vampire if I can't go outside and night isn't going to come for a couple hours and I only have a couple hours to play.0 -
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✭Lord_Draevan wrote: »Nox_Aeterna wrote: »
Maybe it is because they dont get anything at night time either.
And even if they did , it would need to be something quite awesome , since nights are so short in this game.
Well in previous TES titles, you took Sun Damage or had virtually 0 stamina regen in daylight if you hadn't fed in a while, but you had no benefits during the night. The benefit was you had no penalties :P
True to a point.
In oblivion , it was irrelevant , you could outheal the sun damage.
In skyrim , the DLC removed both sun damage AND the NPC getting annoyed dont matter how long since you last fed , similar to ESO.
Also , here is the biggest thing , which is the reason this system would not work so well if implement in ESO , in TES single player games , YOU control the time. If it is day , i can just make be night and keep playing with wait or sleeping ...
That is not the case in ESO , if it is day , it will be day for many hours till you can have night again , which will last much less than the day time. To only be able to go out during the night , is a huge issue in ESO , while in TES games is just a key press way."Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
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Amsel_McKay✭✭✭✭✭I agree... or they should not be able to go into towns at all... Everyone and their uncle are Vampires... kill them all kill them!!!!2 -
Drake81✭✭✭Well, you could make it so that vamps get more damage through sunlight as longer as he didnt feed. With that, vamps woudnt stay forever in stage 4, they would see a need to stay at stage 1 or 2 at day.
Also i woudnt let a vampire who looks hungry run in my city if i where a guardsmen...Edited by Drake81 on June 25, 2014 6:36PM1 -
In PvP, one flaming oil and you're dead as a vampire unless you have heals and shield, firebolt ballista deal tons damage too. You can't 1v1 a DK as a vampire (P.S. I know some *** is going to reply to this and say "not if you're a good player", go to school learn math come back)1
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JLB✭✭✭✭I think stages should decrease Healing Received, not Health Regeneration. Health Regen penalty is laughable, tbh.
Imo Vampire passives and abilities are way too good compared to the little stuff you lose.3 -
I think stages should decrease Healing Received, not Health Regeneration. Health Regen penalty is laughable, tbh.
Imo Vampire passives and abilities are way too good compared to the little stuff you lose.
Have you played as a vampire? It sure does not sound like it cause you are exaggerating. The WW and vamp skill lines are put in mostly for flavour (it is big part of the TES games with the cool factor). But this is a MMO and has PvP wich means balance and in no shape or form does vampires have such advantage over another player that you need more punishment other than the ones we already have in game.
And for those arguing over the day time thing, just stop it. Is this your firts mmo with PvP, with a long day/night cycle? Did you ever stop to think about people with very limited play time? No? I thought so. Again I'll ask you to take a step back and see the whole picture before coming up with, in my opinion, ridiculous ideas.
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ThisOnePosts✭✭✭✭✭Valn, are you that bad at playing a stamina class that you need such an instagib? I use stamina and magicka abilities along with medium armor, etc.. I never had and never will have a problem taking out bosses solo nor other players. There is absolutely no need for something as spammable as this to be as it is glitched to be now.
They're going to fix it, get over it. 1 skill shouldn't make or break stamina usage for you, if so you are doing it wrong. Also, you can be vamp or ww and be in the Fighter's Guild.. almost everyone who is one of those is also in the FG! I don't care about your make believe RP in your head, it happens this way whether you like it or not. Face the facts and move on.Edited by ThisOnePosts on June 25, 2014 10:06PM1 -
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A petition to get zeni to fix silver Bolt sooner rather than later
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