Survey for Patch 1.2.3 (How do you like it?)

  • kimboh
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    Satisfactory
    kimboh wrote: »
    The interior lighting thing is really nice but Azurahs UI addon no longer works.

    There are a few too many posts along these lines in this thread.

    You guys know that the developers are not responsible for your addons not working, right? Every time an MMO is patched, addons need to be updated. If your addon isn't up-to-date with the latest patch, it's because that developer hasn't fixed their code yet.

    Yes, I do know that. :)
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  • tengri
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    Bad
    Cogo wrote: »
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    That a patch needs fixing after is normal...

    And there we have the root of this whole mess.

    Ppl are already expecting the laziness of Z regarding testing of their patches and are forgiving this crap now as if it was nothing and unavoidable.

    This is NOT ACCEPTABLE!
  • GreasedLizard
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    Happy they 'un-nerfed' container loot range. Was horridly short before
  • williamburr2001b14_ESO
    Bad
    Cogo wrote: »
    Fleymark wrote: »
    My class got some nice fixed but this junk weapons and armor in boxes and barrels is just too much. It's one thing to have to work around bugs and imbalances at every turn... It's another for them to intentionally introduce moment by moment annoyances into the game. It's just too much.

    Billing is up in the next few days. This might be the straw. I don't find constant inventory management fun on any level.

    Let me get this straight. Your class gets fixes that you consider good, but because of a feature that was loudly presented by Zenimax to be in game, that you could interact with your environment by exactly what they just introduced......you quitting the game?

    Is zenimax forcing you to pick everything up? When I look around, in a container, I can CHOOSE to pick anything. Cant you?

    YOU'RE DOING IT AGAIN. You just voted on a patch in which you've admittedly only read the notes and haven't played. Now you're arguing with someone who HAS played the game post-patch and telling him his complaints are wrong.

    [Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Flaming and Trolling]
    Edited by ZOS_UlyssesW on June 25, 2014 4:09PM
  • kaosodin
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    What's the point of this poll? The european servers aren't even patched yet...

    Lets have a poll about how many usless polls that useless poll.

    Useless poll

  • Mordhar
    Mordhar
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    Bad
    Framerate:
    I played on all settings maxed (high or ultra when applicable) with stable 60 fps (v-sync enabled). With rare framerate drops to 45 (30 in Cirodiil in mass-PvP).

    Today (after a patch) i have 25-30 on the same settings, with drops to 10-15.

    Skill changes:
    In previous major update some skills/skill morphs were changed. Some of them very slightly. But those skills were reset and skillpoints refunded.

    Now some skills changed completely. Not just numerical values, but their base effects. Which makes some of them completely unuseable for certain builds.
    No reset/refund.
  • brandon.2023b14_ESO

    Cogo wrote: »
    Fleymark wrote: »
    My class got some nice fixed but this junk weapons and armor in boxes and barrels is just too much. It's one thing to have to work around bugs and imbalances at every turn... It's another for them to intentionally introduce moment by moment annoyances into the game. It's just too much.

    Billing is up in the next few days. This might be the straw. I don't find constant inventory management fun on any level.

    Let me get this straight. Your class gets fixes that you consider good, but because of a feature that was loudly presented by Zenimax to be in game, that you could interact with your environment by exactly what they just introduced......you quitting the game?

    Is zenimax forcing you to pick everything up? When I look around, in a container, I can CHOOSE to pick anything. Cant you?
    This new addition of crap makes autoloot entirely unusable, and without autoloot I spend far too long having to pick out the one or two things out of crates and barrels that are useful now.

    Why in God's name did anyone in ZOS think this feature was needed? I've never seen a single request for more white crap of zero value.

    On top of possibly being a means to deter bots and gold farmers, the fans of the ES series wanted more things to pick up for no real reason other than being able to pick it up. To someone more mmo oriented this is a useless feature. To those who actually role play in a roleplaying game this is called immersion.
  • Victus
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    Satisfactory
    Happy they 'un-nerfed' container loot range. Was horridly short before
    Ah that is a good change!
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  • williamburr2001b14_ESO
    Bad
    On top of possibly being a means to deter bots and gold farmers, the fans of the ES series wanted more things to pick up for no real reason other than being able to pick it up. To someone more mmo oriented this is a useless feature. To those who actually role play in a roleplaying game this is called immersion.

    I hate to burst your bubble here, but walking into a squalid Argonian peasant hut in the middle of a swamp, rooting through his barrels, and finding a pile of valueless shortswords, is not immersion. Fighting your way to the bottom of an ancient, forgotten crypt, to open a dusty urn and find...a tomato?...is not immersion. There are a lot of game reasons for random things to be in odd containers all over the freaking place, but "Immersion," and the desire or need to conform to it, are not among them.

  • Ragnar_Lodbrok
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    Bad
    Aeradon wrote: »
    Just wanna see some response from forumers.

    Its bad as there are more incomprehensible nerfs to DK
  • SDZald
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    Don't know, it took half the night to download the patch so I didn't get to play much. I will say the indoor lighting upgrade looked very nice.
  • GreySix
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    Fighting your way to the bottom of an ancient, forgotten crypt, to open a dusty urn and find...a tomato?...is not immersion.
    Yeah, always thought that was ridiculous. Even fighting through the opening soul dungeon and finding broth just seemed ... stupid.
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  • WebBull
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    Mediocre

    Not exactly thrilled with the performance. I pretty much only PvP and after 3-4 crashes in an hour and a half, I called it a night.

    Also, maybe it was just a bad night for me but my survivability (this should make all you DK haters happy) seemed way down. I was dropping in seconds sometimes. Crystal Frag was hitting for over 800 a pop consistently. It would not surprise me is there were unannounced nerfs to armor or resistances.

    Additionally, most add-ons don't work and the developers of them no longer update as they have left the game.
  • michael21
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    Bad
    dont understand why frame rate is worse in cyrodil now, pretty ridiculous if u ask me. I don't understand how they "fixed an issue" with performance when its has only got worse, do i have to make my graphics worse or just keep re logging.
  • SDZald
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    WebBull wrote: »

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    It would not surprise me is there were unannounced nerfs to armor or resistances.
    ...

    Unannounced nerfs????? They would NEVER do that right? .... Softly whistles as he slinks off.
    Edited by SDZald on June 25, 2014 3:40PM
  • Julez36
    Julez36
    Soul Shriven
    Impressed
    I am glad I never needed addons :open_mouth:
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  • Farrar
    Farrar
    Bad
    This WAS a total game breaker for me:

    '(DK) Earthen Heart

    Igneous Shield (Obsidian Shield morph): This ability now increases the healing you deal to allies for 5 seconds instead of increasing your shield value.'

    This was worth to me as a TANK about 784 HP (and 391 for the group), I am not now suddenly going to start picking up a healing staff and topping up folks health now am I.

    Since early access I have been plugging away, reading tool tips correctly and getting my build together, I find this change so irrational I worry about investing my time and future in he game, while it is only a small change, its the one that has made me sit and think:

    'have they any idea of what they are doing'

    So.....

    We are now patched.....

    And the tool tip 'in game' reads (roll them drums)...

    Creates a 392 point damage shield for 24 seconds on all nearby allies. Shield strength is increased 100% on the caster. Increases the healing you do by 33% for 6 seconds.

    So this nerf is now a buff when I pop green dragon blood?

    Or is the tool tip wrong?

    Or are the patch notes out of date?

  • Nacht
    Nacht
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    Bad
    This is how much I liked it:

    Hello, VISA?
    I'd like to reverse a charge, please. Related to 'Zenimax' online, yes.
    That easy, huh? Good, thanks. If you ever see another charge from that source please flag it as fraud. A 100% failware company.
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  • Mordhar
    Mordhar
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    Bad
    Farrar wrote: »
    This WAS a total game breaker for me:

    ...

    Creates a 392 point damage shield for 24 seconds on all nearby allies. Shield strength is increased 100% on the caster. Increases the healing you do by 33% for 6 seconds.

    So this nerf is now a buff when I pop green dragon blood?

    Or is the tool tip wrong?

    Or are the patch notes out of date?

    No, nothing wrong in tooltip (which is not a good thing).
    It is not nerf, it is a complete mechanics change. Making that morph completely useless for a tank to promote their featured "DK healer" build.

    Shield strenght on user being here before, for both morphs. "Igneous Shield" morph not added this, but increased base shield strenght. Now it has same amount of shield as unmorphed skill. But gives buff to healing done on other players.

    Very useable for a tank with skill level 2 in healing staff. :)
  • aipex8_ESO
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    Impressed
    Feeling the stamina love. The DW and Medium Armor buffs are significant and positive for my play style.
  • Apophiss
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    Its bad as there are more incomprehensible nerfs to DK

    Lets say, you are a Dev, and while playing the game you keep losing to a certain class/build.
    Can you honestly day you wouldn't chip away at the bane of your existence?

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  • Seedier
    Seedier
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    Bad
    Personally i've only been able to experience a few minutes of the game; I'm on the EU megaserver which has just been patched, using the Windows client. However the lag is ridiculous now.

    There's a 5 second delay for text to appear in guild chat and sadly i'm getting very similar delay (i.e. server lag) in combat. After trying to take on 3 mobs at the same time (where i left the game off before patch, wasnt' a problem), i'm now getting hammered as screen stands still as all 3 mobs just keep bashing on me.

    On the 'plus' side, death recap has been made even more annoying by hammering each blow out with a sound effect (what is the point in death recap anyway? there's no built in way to assess dps, heals or mitigation, so why suddenly a numerical guide to how you got instagibbed - effectively 1-shot as with the lag all enemy actions happen at once...).

  • m12d12_ESO
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    Bad
    DRAGON KNIGHT - Is hard by itself in good conditions - No healing to speak of- and we are often used as tanks - Tanks that can't really heal worth crap - Now we are Nerfed.... It was horrible playing yesterday. I have never thought to end my subscription, until now.
    - Scorcers got their familiar pets buffed to now they can become vets when the player does ?? What a Scorcer is now equivalent to 3 Vets when they get there???
    - Yet Dragon Knights can't even fully heal themselves and you nerf our only trued defenses?
    - COME ON ZeniMax what the heck is wrong with the DEVS.
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  • GreySix
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    m12d12_ESO wrote: »
    - Scorcers got their familiar pets buffed to now they can become vets when the player does ?? What a Scorcer is now equivalent to 3 Vets when they get there???
    More love for the already overpowered class of choice?

    Say it ain't so!
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  • Slash8915
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    Satisfactory
    Wasn't bad. I'm glad they finally buffed Temps a bit, and the new lighting system is pretty nice. I also didn't notice as many bugs once the servers went back up. MUCH better than with the Craglorn patch. But they didn't add much new content, so I wouldn't say I was "Impressed".
    Edited by Slash8915 on June 25, 2014 4:50PM
  • Aeradon
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    Average
    kaosodin wrote: »
    What's the point of this poll? The european servers aren't even patched yet...

    Lets have a poll about how many usless polls that useless poll.

    Useless poll
    Read the thread. And learn how to be more constructive the next time you post.

    The poll is there to show ZOS what forum members who voted feel about the patch.

    The thread responses show what is appreciated and what is not.

    I care about the game, I want better patches. Hence the poll and thread.
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  • coryevans_3b14_ESO
    coryevans_3b14_ESO
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    Impressed
    What's the point of this poll? The european servers aren't even patched yet...

    Because this game was made by Americans, for Americans.

    MURRICA!!!!

    (just kidding btw, feel free to post when you can experience the patch)
  • dsalter
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    i'd say terrible purely because i have to download it still :(
    otherwise reading notes its mostly a huge improvement
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  • coryevans_3b14_ESO
    coryevans_3b14_ESO
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    Impressed
    On top of possibly being a means to deter bots and gold farmers, the fans of the ES series wanted more things to pick up for no real reason other than being able to pick it up. To someone more mmo oriented this is a useless feature. To those who actually role play in a roleplaying game this is called immersion.

    I hate to burst your bubble here, but walking into a squalid Argonian peasant hut in the middle of a swamp, rooting through his barrels, and finding a pile of valueless shortswords, is not immersion. Fighting your way to the bottom of an ancient, forgotten crypt, to open a dusty urn and find...a tomato?...is not immersion. There are a lot of game reasons for random things to be in odd containers all over the freaking place, but "Immersion," and the desire or need to conform to it, are not among them.

    I hate to burst your bubble, but your opinion on immersion may not be what is immersion to someone else.
  • Bromburak
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    Impressed
    Best patch with many things that were overdue since release. Well done!
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