So why did you change Nords Armor bonus Racial?

Xsorus · June 2014

You changed it to 6% damage reduction, vs the 300 Armor it use to give.

Polwight · June 2014

Would like some clarification on this. Are you saying that this was changed in this patch and not disclosed?

Maotti · June 2014

What? Outrageous!

Xozah · June 2014

I would take 6% dmg reduction over 300 armor any day of the week

Ragnar_Lodbrok · June 2014

Like it matters with the ridiculously low armor cap.

Rosveen · June 2014

haesteneb17_ESO wrote: »

I would take 6% dmg reduction over 300 armor any day of the week

Me too.

UrQuan · June 2014

A 6% damage reduction is way better overall than a flat 300 armour bonus.

SinfulSoul · June 2014

6% dmg reduction is a hell lot better than 300 armor. If anything all Nords should be getting drunk celebrating this news.

Ragnar_Lodbrok · June 2014

SinfulSoul wrote: »

6% dmg reduction is a hell lot better than 300 armor. If anything all Nords should be getting drunk celebrating this news.

Except for the whole armor cap bs.

Ragekniv · June 2014

Seems to be a theme in the patch, look at other class abilities that had armor bonuses removed for damage reduction.

Petty nerfs to already broken armor mechanic, doesn't make sense... therefore it happens!

phaneub17_ESO · June 2014

You need to look up the 1k vs 2k armor thread.

I found it for you:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/111918/1k-armor-vs-2k-armor/p1

vyndral13preub18_ESO · June 2014

phaneub17_ESO wrote: »

You need to look up the 1k vs 2k armor thread.

I found it for you:
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/111918/1k-armor-vs-2k-armor/p1

This made me laugh. Then I cried A little. Then i shook my head. Then I got the kid some cereal.

The_Drexill · June 2014

6% Reduction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 300 armor.

Polwight · June 2014

The principle of the matter is disclosure. Goodwill and trust are in pretty short supply around here and antics like this are the reason why. Stealth changes with non-disclosure don't engender a lot of faith in your player base.

It is simple if you change things please tell us so we understand and know how things affect our builds. This is somewhat the unwritten rule of MMO's since inception. We invest days, months and sometimes years and we expect at a very minimum honesty in change disclosures.

I could care less about the statistics behind the changes or what you change but I do care about you communicating those changes to us.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · June 2014

There was a small set of notes pertaining to racial passive changes that were missed in the v1.2.3 patch notes. We sincerely apologize. It is never our intent to leave things out of our patch notes. We're working on pulling them together and getting them added.

Wifeaggro13 · June 2014

Thank you. Jessica can you post the sets that were changed as well

SootyTX · June 2014

Ragekniv wrote: »

Seems to be a theme in the patch, look at other class abilities that had armor bonuses removed for damage reduction.

Petty nerfs to already broken armor mechanic, doesn't make sense... therefore it happens!

I really don't think you understand how this game works. This is a massive buff to Nords

dafraorb16_ESO · June 2014

lol people crying for getting buffs and NBs are happy for the nerfs O_o

rwood0604_ESO · June 2014

I think people are over reacting about the changes anyways as if anything would have been different if you knew it was happening, I assume you already have a Nord character which would mean if you knew about it happening or you didn't it would still effect your character anyways, besides the fact that it was more of a buff than a nerf yet you still whine about it.

SirPuppingtonVonHat · June 2014

Is the new version of Rugged 6% reduction to just melee damage taken, or is it a reducing damage taken from spells as well? Its a big difference, and holy butts the second would be a hell of a buff.

EDIT: Its all incoming damage in the tool-tip. This is a hell of a buff, and I'm glad to see it.

Polwight · June 2014

I do not see anyone crying. Please understand reading is about comprehending what is written. Most of you need to reread this thread and then comprehend what is written.

The point of contention is about disclosure of changes. If I plan to play and invest days, months and years into this game I expect changes to be made above board and with honesty and integrity. Do you really want to invest months or years of your life into an endeavor where changes can be made at the whim of a zealous developer and never be disclosed to the player?

The thing that changes with disclosure is the variable of our most precious commodity...time. Do I wish to continue to invest my precious time with said changes or do I wish to invest that commodity in other ventures. That is the point of contention and the importance of disclosure.

Disclosure is important and without it you will wake up someday and find your once viable build that you spent months working up and huge sums of gold upgrading obsolete. That is the reason for the raised eyebrow about lack of disclosure.

indigoblades · June 2014

WOW .... the thread:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/111918/1k-armor-vs-2k-armor/p1

is a must read .... maybe they should Rename the armors fragile/little/light as they go up ever so slightly go up in damage mitigation.

Anyway i am no longer unhappy i traded 300 armor for 6% damage reduction.

madangrypally · June 2014

This has made me very happy. I always felt Nords passives was one of the weakest in game, and now I am extremely happy I chose Nords. Was extremely sad to see no changes to Wood Elves though.

trucqulent · June 2014

The_Drexill wrote: »

6% Reduction >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 300 armor.

you obviously didn't read the thread past the first few posts.

try again!

Enkil · June 2014

Time to roll a Nord

Tamanous · June 2014

Now how about some Argonian love for crying out loud?!

CoryRobertsnzrwb17_ESO · June 2014

6% for all damage types does seem a little strong. Just curious, does this mean that the Brentons also got a similar change to their spell resistance?

GnatB · June 2014

Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »

Like it matters with the ridiculously low armor cap.

I think that's the point, considering the low cap 300 armor doesn't do jack. You'll probably be at the cap regardless.

but 6% reduction? Unless there's something hidden where that's additive to armor reduction and yet still maxing out at 50%, then that's pretty huge. If it's simply additive, then it's improves the max reduction by over 10%. (50% to 56%) Even if it's only multiplicitive, that's, well, 6% better.

Ragekniv · June 2014

SootyTX wrote: »

Ragekniv wrote: »

Seems to be a theme in the patch, look at other class abilities that had armor bonuses removed for damage reduction.

Petty nerfs to already broken armor mechanic, doesn't make sense... therefore it happens!

I really don't think you understand how this game works. This is a massive buff to Nords

Fair point, posted a bit too quick before considering impact. Grats to Nords!

andreas.rudroffb16_ESO · June 2014

xsorusb14_ESO wrote: »

You changed it to 6% damage reduction, vs the 300 Armor it use to give.

why do you complain 6% reduction is way better than 300 AC (see AC softcap)

GunemCleric · June 2014

if the 6% actually did anything it would be great.

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/114138/armor-appears-to-be-useless-v4-vs-v12#latest

EDIT
to be clear they appear to have changed the tool tip charged 3 points and simply reduced our armor bonus, i did have OC armor, still do, but there is NO detectable reduction in damage