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Nerfing DK on the right path! lol
msawwan2ub17_ESO
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burning talons less time now
its one of the most op firemage dk skills
Nerf Hammered.
I recently made a firemage dk, but i am still happy with this needed nerf.
i think light armor dk are still the top class in pvp no matter what nerf they do
its one of the most op firemage dk skills
Nerf Hammered.
I recently made a firemage dk, but i am still happy with this needed nerf.
i think light armor dk are still the top class in pvp no matter what nerf they do
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✭✭✭✭✭This thread needed to be made?Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.4 -
Anlaemar✭✭✭Instead of nerfting DKs to the ground, I think they should buff the other classes so they're on par with the DKs.(NA) Anlaemar with 750+ Champion Points
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demonlkojipub19_ESO✭✭✭✭✭I didn't ever think about how much extra damage it was doing, I just preferred the extra bit of damage over decreasing enemy damage for 4 whole seconds, or less. It couldn't hurt for it to list how much damage it does over how long, like a normal skill.
But, I don't really care about the nerf to it. Always looking for new reasons to put something else in place of talons.
Other skills that come to mind is petrify, but it really would be nice if they reduced its magicka cost some. stone fist costs too much magica too for 1 target...0 -
Obscure✭✭✭✭✭Well my DK build got buffed...I won't mention how...I'm just going to expect to see it nerfed in the next round... Perhaps a "QQ Nerf dis cuz it OP!!" will pop up on it soon... Maybe not. We'll see.0
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You sir (loosely used term for you) need to jump into a busy intersection.msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »burning talons less time now
its one of the most op firemage dk skills
Nerf Hammered.
I recently made a firemage dk, but i am still happy with this needed nerf.
i think light armor dk are still the top class in pvp no matter what nerf they do
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This is phase 3 of the DK nerfs. This patch Talons, and for me the Dark Elf fire Passive. Phase 4, while not a direct DK nerf (weapon based), will be to Impulse.
All I can say is that if they keep nerfing DK 's (directly and indirectly) they had better buff some of the stamina based weapon skills to keep them viable.1 -
NobleX35✭✭✭✭Of all the things that needed/need to be done to talons, this was not one in m opinion. On my v10 dk the initial damage is roughly 190 with an additional 200 flame damage over 4 seconds...so it basically ticks 50 flame damage every second...how is that op? For comparison unstable flames does 170 initial damage and roughly 470 damage over 10 seconds...which is almost the extant same thing only over a longer period of time (however due to the specific morph it actually does more).
In my opinion what makes talons (any form) op is as follows:
1. Their is no means of countering it via block/whatever
2. Theirs no immunity timer after you roll out of it (as their is with breaking out of stuns)
3. The synergy attached to it is really where the bulk of dps from this skill comes from. The synergy is basically the same amount of burning talons initial effect and it's dot.
In my opinion those are the 3 things that need to be fixed, not the mediocre dot attached to burning talons..."Only the dead have seen the end of war."1 -
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✭GothicPython wrote: »Of all the things that needed/need to be done to talons, this was not one in m opinion. On my v10 dk the initial damage is roughly 190 with an additional 200 flame damage over 4 seconds...so it basically ticks 50 flame damage every second...how is that op? For comparison unstable flames does 170 initial damage and roughly 470 damage over 10 seconds...which is almost the extant same thing only over a longer period of time (however due to the specific morph it actually does more).
In my opinion what makes talons (any form) op is as follows:
1. Their is no means of countering it via block/whatever
2. Theirs no immunity timer after you roll out of it (as their is with breaking out of stuns)
3. The synergy attached to it is really where the bulk of dps from this skill comes from. The synergy is basically the same amount of burning talons initial effect and it's dot.
In my opinion those are the 3 things that need to be fixed, not the mediocre dot attached to burning talons...
It wouldnt be nerfed so badly if it wasnt for pvpers2 -
Solid✭✭For once please will all the players screaming for a nerf because a class skill is OP in cloth please roll a heavy tank or a medium wearing 2h melee then tell me if you think the skills are OP!
Melee classes are getting every piece of their dps stripped from them because the cloth Magicka vs heavy/medium stamina builds are just completely broken. Unfortunately we use these skills ourselves to compensate for a *** poor class system.
Skills are not OP! Put any class in light armour and a Destro/Resto staff spec and their dps will skyrocket.1 -
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✭For once please will all the players screaming for a nerf because a class skill is OP in cloth please roll a heavy tank or a medium wearing 2h melee then tell me if you think the skills are OP!
Melee classes are getting every piece of their dps stripped from them because the cloth Magicka vs heavy/medium stamina builds are just completely broken. Unfortunately we use these skills ourselves to compensate for a *** poor class system.
Skills are not OP! Put any class in light armour and a Destro/Resto staff spec and their dps will skyrocket.
But ZOS refuses to change that, likely because the devs are at top of leader boards in stick and skirts themselves.0 -
Solid✭✭Ragnar_Lodbrok wrote: »
It wouldnt be nerfed so badly if it wasnt for pvpers
Fed up with hearing about how hard PVP has it. Why should 90% of the games population have their game play dictated too by the other 10%.1 -
Akhratos✭✭✭✭Well, considering they added a cc diminishing return (more like invulnerability) Idk how much need it would be tp nerf the damage.
You cant be taloned to dead over and over after you break/suffer the first one with the last patch and the range is pretty short actually.
Im happy with the cc invulnerability change. It was pretty lame being able to chaincc someone to death so easily. For the damage, I will wait until I can test it myself but the weird thing was the neverending root rather than the damage so they could have probably waited.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭Instead of nerfting DKs to the ground, I think they should buff the other classes so they're on par with the DKs.
I don't think this is the best answer for every issue. Some DK skills need buffed, some nerfed. I've played all the classes and DK is a cakewalk, very OP. If they feel the game should be more challenging, why buff every class up to that when taking one class down a notch fixes it? Even after nerfs this class is still the most powerful in the game, though I admit it's fun beating everything up. Love using dragon leap, even when it's not called for.
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✭I cannot celebrate any nerfs.
I have friends and frenemies who are DKs. I would rather see buffs/counters than nerfs.v14 Sorc Vae Exillis
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msawwan2ub17_ESO✭✭✭I am sorry that I celebrate nerfs rather than buffing every class to par.
Do you all want to get buffed and become like DK?
do you want the content to be super easy?
no thanks. i like my game a little challenging. OP classes/skills/weapons/ anything OP should always get a nerf to be on par with everything else~~ Mrs Jones ~~
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Solid✭✭msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »I am sorry that I celebrate nerfs rather than buffing every class to par.
Do you all want to get buffed and become like DK?
do you want the content to be super easy?
no thanks. i like my game a little challenging. OP classes/skills/weapons/ anything OP should always get a nerf to be on par with everything else
I play a DK with a 1H and Shield. I can assure you content is not easy. Get 3 mobs with a healer and I'm out of stamina long before the fight ends.
I wish people would stop generalizing the Dragon Knight class as "OP" its only the Cloth Destro builds, but that could be said of any class.
This is hopeless I'm sure people are just posting "Yeah DK is OP" without having the slightest idea what they are talking about.3 -
NobleX35✭✭✭✭msawwan2ub17_ESO wrote: »I am sorry that I celebrate nerfs rather than buffing every class to par.
Do you all want to get buffed and become like DK?
do you want the content to be super easy?
no thanks. i like my game a little challenging. OP classes/skills/weapons/ anything OP should always get a nerf to be on par with everything else
I play a DK with a 1H and Shield. I can assure you content is not easy. Get 3 mobs with a healer and I'm out of stamina long before the fight ends.
I wish people would stop generalizing the Dragon Knight class as "OP" its only the Cloth Destro builds, but that could be said of any class.
This is hopeless I'm sure people are just posting "Yeah DK is OP" without having the slightest idea what they are talking about.
Completely agree. One person gets an idea in their head that something is op and then everyone jumps on the bandwagon. Samething happened in BF3 where everyone would complain about the M16A3 being "op" when in reality that game had some of the best weapon balance I've ever seen.
Anyway my point was that the DK class itself definitely still needs a little tweaking, but it's not as crazy op as everyone makes it out to be..."Only the dead have seen the end of war."0 -
Elember✭✭✭Instead of nerfting DKs to the ground, I think they should buff the other classes so they're on par with the DKs.
Yes I have never been able to understand why developers always adjust things to be less when they really should just increase the other classes and maybe even mob strength.
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NobleX35✭✭✭✭Instead of nerfting DKs to the ground, I think they should buff the other classes so they're on par with the DKs.
Yes I have never been able to understand why developers always adjust things to be less when they really should just increase the other classes and maybe even mob strength.
Why change everything when you could make small adjustments to one thing?
Balance takes time and will consist of both buffs and nerfs..."Only the dead have seen the end of war."1
