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Confused on Bow

jquestb16_ESO2
So the patch notes says "Snipe: Reduced the cast time for this ability from 3 seconds to 2 seconds. We also reduced the range for this ability from 40 meters to 35 meters, and reduced the minimum range from 20 meters to 10 meters."

Does that mean long shot doesn't apply to snipe anymore? I though long shot had to be 40 meters.
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    I know..what abilities do have 40m+ range? lol
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  • Sleevez340
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    you gain 5 or 7 meter range in cyrodiil.
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  • naturn
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    LOL, I sure hope someone explains this or better yet set the range back to 40 meters. It is not like there is a lot of range abuse.
  • Fleymark
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    That confused me too. My assumption, and this is just an assumption, was that the passive was working but not over a certain range. Now it does. Which is weird because they reduced the range of our longest shot. Lol. Although, isn't there a component to that that increases range for a period? One of the snipe morphs that is. I guess it's conceivable that you could get off a snipe, the range bonus kicks in and the target moves further away and you could get off another but now the passive works, where it didn't before.

    Irregardless, I'm pretty stoked about the new poison arrow.
    Edited by Fleymark on June 24, 2014 5:59PM
  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    the ability doesnt only affect 40+
    it affects all hits, but the further, the more dmg

    and like sleeve said you gain more range in cyrodill, there are also armor sets that give you extra range
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  • Katniss_Everlark
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    I didn't even think of that @jquestb16_ESO2‌. I guess we'll see by the damage when we're able to log in & play once the maintenance is fixed. Although most of the time I don't feel like Long Shots was ever in effect because I wouldn't be able to hit anything from 40m+ range half the time.
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  • TheBull
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    In Cyrodiil before the patch I had a 54 meter range near keeps B) 49 just wont be the same...
  • coryevans_3b14_ESO
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    I don't see how people see this as a nerf..It's a HUGE buff to me. I hated the minimum distance and cast time the most. (hated is too strong, annoyed is better). This will make me much more dangerous imo.
  • Fleymark
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    Oh yeah I'll trade off 5 meter max range for 10 meter closer min range and faster draw time. The min range and draw time is usually what borked a snipe for me.
  • frwinters_ESO
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    I may start using it now just
    Fleymark wrote: »
    Oh yeah I'll trade off 5 meter max range for 10 meter closer min range and faster draw time. The min range and draw time is usually what borked a snipe for me.

    I may just start using it now in PvP just because of the cast time decrease.
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    The wording is vague (surprise surprise) but I took it to mean that longshots weren't working as intended for shots beyond 40m (which you can get in Cyrodiil as pointed out). I'm not sure if the damage will be increased over 40m or be the same as, say, 39m. I can't say I'd noticed that shots over 40m weren't getting the bonus but there are so many factors in Cyrodiil that reduce damage that it's hard to test.

  • Fleymark
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    the ability doesnt only affect 40+
    it affects all hits, but the further, the more dmg

    and like sleeve said you gain more range in cyrodill, there are also armor sets that give you extra range

    Which sets increase range, if you don't mind my putting you on the spot?
  • Azzuria
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    Faster cast time and closer range are definitely a positive. Might even start using Snipe again.
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    The bow and arrow is a projectile weapon system (a bow with arrows) that predates recorded history and is common to most cultures. Archery is the art, practice, or skill of applying it.
  • Aeradon
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    Assuming you start casting at 35m.
    Target runs away during the 2s cast time.
    Target had a good 7m run. Shot is fired at 42m.
    Long shot gains bonus of 42m.

    Is this how it works?
    Edited by Aeradon on June 24, 2014 6:33PM
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  • born2beagator
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    I don't see how people see this as a nerf..It's a HUGE buff to me. I hated the minimum distance and cast time the most. (hated is too strong, annoyed is better). This will make me much more dangerous imo.
    I agree. I already liked snipe in pve, this makes it worlds better. Most of the time I can get off two snipes before an enemy reaches me. Now I may be able to do three!
  • ferzalrwb17_ESO
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    Aeradon wrote: »
    Assuming you start casting at 35m.
    Target runs away during the 2s cast time.
    Target had a good 7m run. Shot is fired at 42m.
    Long shot gains bonus of 42m.

    Is this how it works?

    Probably not.

    I forgot that one of the snipe morphs increases the range on that target for a while (can't remember by how much) so that would have also increased the 40m range in PvE if it was tanked by someone else or stationary. With snipe reduced to 35m I'm not sure I can test over 40 in PvE now without the snipe morph and the range set (which I currently don't have).

  • msawwan2ub17_ESO
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    Fleymark wrote: »
    the ability doesnt only affect 40+
    it affects all hits, but the further, the more dmg

    and like sleeve said you gain more range in cyrodill, there are also armor sets that give you extra range

    Which sets increase range, if you don't mind my putting you on the spot?

    I dont mind that at all

    http://elderscrollsonline.wiki.fextralife.com/Sets

    covenant bow gives extra range with the set


    once again, long shot works on all distances, it just hit harder the further the target is.

    to try that hit a mob on farm distance a regular attack and notice how your light attack decrease as mob get closer to you


    snipe attack reducing casting to 2 seconds is a huge buff to the ability not a nerf. i dont know what people are tripping over.


    in cyrodill there is extra range

    there are also passives that give you extra range near keeps

    there are sets that give extra range

    not to mention when you snipe someone you get extra range on that person too
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  • jquestb16_ESO2
    I like the faster cast time but the only bow skill at 40 was snipe now that it's max range is 35 the burst dps is nerfed but damage over time is increased a bit due to less cast time... lol I don't know their wording is kind of poor :expressionless:
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