anyone wish they just made a better single player elderscrolls than eso?

AlexDougherty · June 2014

Blackwidow wrote: »

kimboh wrote: »

Of course I would love a new sp TES game but I knew this was going to be an MMO so I knew what to expect.

Did you expect housing, underwater swimming, dueling, a law system, thieves guild, assassin's guild, a completely open world to explore, arenas, or any other the other things that ESO and MMOs should have?

Because I sure was expecting it.

I expected the thieves and assassins guilds and underwater swimming. I was hoping for housing, but not really expecting it.

I can wait for the guilds, and while I would have liked underwater content, I can survive without it.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

OF COURSE.

Betehsda is AWESOME and with TESO, it's CLEAR that the only ones capable to release a game about TES universe is BETESHDA.

I can't wait to TES VI. My thousands of hours in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are not enough. I need more TES. REAL TES. I feel TESO is damaging TES franchise, sadly.

I suppose TES VI will be out in 2016/2017. They are now with Fallout 4 that it seems it will be out later 2015.

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

steveb16_ESO46 · June 2014

Evergnar wrote: »

kimboh wrote: »

Of course I would love a new sp TES game but I knew this was going to be an MMO so I knew what to expect.

Pretty much this as well. Even though I'm a bigger TES fan than MMO I want ESO to be the best MMO it can be. Not single player oriented. I want to be able to experience every last thing in the game with a friend or group of friends.

Quite. My LOTRO kinship were hoping to move here but once they saw the impact of phasing on grouping, the lack of guild facilities and not even speech bubbles as support for RP they changed their minds.

ESO from 1-50 is essentially a single player game with some limited optional MMO attached.

Which is fine until you then switch it to being a hard-core combat grinder at VR, leaving a lot of people who enjoyed the journey so far saying What The Hell?

RazielSR · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

OF COURSE.

Betehsda is AWESOME and with TESO, it's CLEAR that the only ones capable to release a game about TES universe is BETESHDA.

I can't wait to TES VI. My thousands of hours in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are not enough. I need more TES. REAL TES. I feel TESO is damaging TES franchise, sadly.

I suppose TES VI will be out in 2016/2017. They are now with Fallout 4 that it seems it will be out later 2015.

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

True, but it wil take long i guess...

RazielSR · June 2014

steveb16_ESO46 wrote: »

Evergnar wrote: »

kimboh wrote: »

Of course I would love a new sp TES game but I knew this was going to be an MMO so I knew what to expect.

Pretty much this as well. Even though I'm a bigger TES fan than MMO I want ESO to be the best MMO it can be. Not single player oriented. I want to be able to experience every last thing in the game with a friend or group of friends.

ESO from 1-50 is essentially a single player game with some limited optional MMO attached.

Which is fine until you then switch it to being a hard-core combat grinder at VR, leaving a lot of people who enjoyed the journey so far saying What The Hell?

Exactly, the vast majority. that's one of the reaons why i cancelled my sub and I'm reinstalling skyrim with mods in my new rig to really be again what I want to be and play the way I want to play. And without paying every month.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

OF COURSE.

Betehsda is AWESOME and with TESO, it's CLEAR that the only ones capable to release a game about TES universe is BETESHDA.

I can't wait to TES VI. My thousands of hours in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are not enough. I need more TES. REAL TES. I feel TESO is damaging TES franchise, sadly.

I suppose TES VI will be out in 2016/2017. They are now with Fallout 4 that it seems it will be out later 2015.

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

True, but it wil take long i guess...

Looking at a quote in a magazine I read, it might be out late next year, so yeah a while yet.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

mfxdrew wrote: »

I sometimes wish that either Bethesda took full control and made this or takes it over and fixes it. zenimax employees are sitting somewhere behind a desk asking whats wrong with our game? I am gonna be mad though when in a year Bethesda shows their new elderscroll game off.

Bethesda are working on a Fallout game as far as I know, and they had no say in this at all, ESO was dictated by Zenimax (Bethesda's owners) who formed ZOS to do it, Bethsoft only acted as lore consultants.

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

RazielSR · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

OF COURSE.

Betehsda is AWESOME and with TESO, it's CLEAR that the only ones capable to release a game about TES universe is BETESHDA.

I can't wait to TES VI. My thousands of hours in Morrowind, Oblivion and Skyrim are not enough. I need more TES. REAL TES. I feel TESO is damaging TES franchise, sadly.

I suppose TES VI will be out in 2016/2017. They are now with Fallout 4 that it seems it will be out later 2015.

The Skywind project will reproduce morrowind in the skyrim engine, which should be nice. I'm looking forward to that.

True, but it wil take long i guess...

Looking at a quote in a magazine I read, it might be out late next year, so yeah a while yet.

Anyway, we'll try it!

RazielSR · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one. Of course they are now with Fallout 4, but they have something about the new TES in the works too. I guess 2016-2017 will be the release date for TES VI.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Well we won't, they won't tell us about any new games until they are much further into development, because a delay is bad PR, and the minute you tell people about it delays start happening.

But I wouldn't be surprised if they are working on it right now.

AngryNord · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one. Of course they are now with Fallout 4, but they have something about the new TES in the works too. I guess 2016-2017 will be the release date for TES VI.

AFAIK Todd Howard have only confirmed he is working on SOMETHING, there has been no conformation as to whether it is Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 6, or something totally different.

RazielSR · June 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one. Of course they are now with Fallout 4, but they have something about the new TES in the works too. I guess 2016-2017 will be the release date for TES VI.

AFAIK Todd Howard have only confirmed he is working on SOMETHING, there has been no conformation as to whether it is Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 6, or something totally different.

Yes, but it is normal to think that there is somehing about TES VI in the works too. They always work the same way. Maybe some concept, some art, ideas...I really think it will take place in Hammerfell.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one

I realise that, hence my "foreseeable timeframe" phrase, I have no doubt Todd and the others have a timeline mapped out potentially way into the future but any possible TES 6 is years away, literally which is why I replied to someone thinking in terms of a year.

kevlarto_ESO · June 2014

As much as I love all the Elder Scrolls single player games, I am happy here in ESO, one of things I always wanted was an Elder Scrolls game I could play with my friends, now when the new single player game comes out in a few years I am sure I will play it as well, nothing is written that we can no enjoy the best of both worlds.

AlexDougherty · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one

I realise that, hence my "foreseeable timeframe" phrase, I have no doubt Todd and the others have a timeline mapped out potentially way into the future but any possible TES 6 is years away, literally which is why I replied to someone thinking in terms of a year.

True, we will have had press releases at least a year before they release, so it's well over a year away.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one. Of course they are now with Fallout 4, but they have something about the new TES in the works too. I guess 2016-2017 will be the release date for TES VI.

AFAIK Todd Howard have only confirmed he is working on SOMETHING, there has been no conformation as to whether it is Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 6, or something totally different.

I believe it's been established it's the next Fallout.

In fact it would be very stupid of them to be thinking of a TES 6 release any time soon and Zenimax wouldn't allow it, any hint of a TES 6 inside a year could have a serious impact on ESO's launch.

Moreover, as far as the TES franchise is concerned, ESO's existence wouldn't need TES 6 inside a year from now.

AngryNord · June 2014

RazielSR wrote: »

I really think it will take place in Hammerfell.

I agree. I had to stop discussing this in the end on the Bethesda forums, it seems there is a very vocal crowd there that insists that the NeXT Elder Scrolls game MUST take Place in _both_ Valenwood _and_ Elsweyr...

Rosveen · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I've seen no mention of a TES 6 in any foreseeable timeframe.

Todd said they are working a bit on it. You know, TES games are always in the works once they finsihed with the last one. Of course they are now with Fallout 4, but they have something about the new TES in the works too. I guess 2016-2017 will be the release date for TES VI.

AFAIK Todd Howard have only confirmed he is working on SOMETHING, there has been no conformation as to whether it is Fallout 4, Elder Scrolls 6, or something totally different.

I believe it's been established it's the next Fallout.

It will not be established until Bethesda's official announcement, which isn't happening any time soon.

AngryNord · June 2014

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I believe it's been established it's the next Fallout.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/18/apparently-we-wont-hear-about-fallout-4-for-a-while/

AlexDougherty · June 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

I really think it will take place in Hammerfell.

I agree. I had to stop discussing this in the end on the Bethesda forums, it seems there is a very vocal crowd there that insists that the NeXT Elder Scrolls game MUST take Place in _both_ Valenwood _and_ Elsweyr...

Technically it could take place anywhere on Nirn, admittedly it would be weird as anything for it not to be in Tamriel.

AngryNord · June 2014

AlexDougherty wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

I really think it will take place in Hammerfell.

I agree. I had to stop discussing this in the end on the Bethesda forums, it seems there is a very vocal crowd there that insists that the NeXT Elder Scrolls game MUST take Place in _both_ Valenwood _and_ Elsweyr...

Technically it could take place anywhere on Nirn, admittedly it would be weird as anything for it not to be in Tamriel.

There are a few People here and there on forums that are very adamant about wanting a game set in Akavir...

AlexDougherty · June 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

AlexDougherty wrote: »

AngryNord wrote: »

RazielSR wrote: »

I really think it will take place in Hammerfell.

I agree. I had to stop discussing this in the end on the Bethesda forums, it seems there is a very vocal crowd there that insists that the NeXT Elder Scrolls game MUST take Place in _both_ Valenwood _and_ Elsweyr...

Technically it could take place anywhere on Nirn, admittedly it would be weird as anything for it not to be in Tamriel.

There are a few People here and there on forums that are very adamant about wanting a game set in Akavir...

I know, and I have to admit I would be curious about Akavir myself.
But Akavir would have to have completely new races, no Elfs or Argonians there, but there are cat people but I'm not sure if they are Khajiit.

isengrimb16_ESO · June 2014

At least my sub with ESO means there'll always be updates and patches and fixes. I just found out about their no-expansions plan (ie, we won't ever have to buy anything on top of the base game, nor pay more than our sub for new content), and that thrilled me to no end.

Skyrim, with its high moddability, struck me as an experiment of sorts. The base game itself seems to have struck people as pretty "bare bones", just BEGGING to be fleshed out by the community - who then make mods that others in the community can pick and choose from to customize their own version of the game. And while I think they're right, I DO NOT think releasing a highly moddable skeleton game is a BAD thing.

I might be thinking WAY too bloody far in the future here, but imagine when the holography age comes (and it's probably not all that far away from being born - 20 years maybe? Maybe less, maybe more?) As far as immersion goes, you won't be able to beat it; but the vast majority are probably going to want bare-bones sandbox type programmes that they can fully customize themselves relatively easily; being pushed through a theme park won't be quite so tolerable to kids of the holography age, I wouldn't think. Wouldn't a highly personalizable holo version of Skyrim just rock?

Anyway, that's just rambling due to being sober for too long. The bottom line is, ESO is a group game; not so customizable, but now that I know I'll _never have to pay for new content beyond my sub fee_, I'm satisfied with the model.

The single-player games will probably continue to concentrate on having a level of personalization that you can't have in multiplayer games.

I'm glad Zenimax Media went and made a separate company for ESO, and that Bethesda will continue to make single player games. Because I enjoy the advantages that both will bring me and my computer-gaming experience.

raglau · June 2014

The holy grail would of course be another excellent single player TES game.

But given that a TES MMO was inevitable I am relatively happy with what we have. I knew that an MMO was going to be a compromise in a lot of ways, it's certainly turned out better than I thought it would but I am only level 49, I hear my experience is about to take a serious downturn!

But this game being released does not mean we will never get another amazing TES single player game. In fact, I'd say it actually hurries it along. It's quite clear to me this game is a white elephant (I personally like it but I am not an ostrich) and therefore to bring some money in and save the brand name, a new TES single player game needs to announced relatively soon.

mfxdrew wrote: »

I sometimes wish that either Bethesda took full control and made this or takes it over and fixes it. zenimax employees are sitting somewhere behind a desk asking whats wrong with our game? I am gonna be mad though when in a year Bethesda shows their new elderscroll game off.

jeevin · June 2014

I would much rather be playing another Bethesda developed game with or without online function(playing with friends in ESO hardly functions anyway). It's hard to deny Zenimax Online Studio has made a mess of this game and it certainly doesn't live up to the Elder Scrolls standards. Zenimax isn't afraid to release a buggy game but ESO take bugs and broken game play to another level.

fromtesonlineb16_ESO · June 2014

AngryNord wrote: »

fromtesonlineb16_ESO wrote: »

I believe it's been established it's the next Fallout.

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2014/02/18/apparently-we-wont-hear-about-fallout-4-for-a-while/

I didn't claim they'd announced it.

wrlifeboil · June 2014

Falmer wrote: »

Well, these are two different teams(studios). Bethesda softworks is owned by Zenimax.

So you are actually getting both. So that's only a good thing in my book. ESO didn't delay the implementation of the next ES single player game.

Bethesda Softworks is the publisher. Like EA would be for Titanfall or Activision for Destiny. Look on your box. Or check the name of the game publisher at any online store.

I think you mistook Bethesda Softworks for Bethesda Game Studios. Bethesda Game Studios has been the developer group for TES since Morrowind.

phairdon · June 2014

If anything; I wish we had a single player Elder Scrolls game with all the different regions, including Cyrodiil as we know it from Oblivion. It was what made this game appealing to me, being able to venture through all of Tamriel - it just happens to be an mmo.

Also read somewhere there is another single player Elder Scrolls in the works. Going to be of interest to see which region/regions & era the game will be based around, plus the size of the game seeing at the next Witcher game is supposedly three times the size of Skyrim.

Elloa · June 2014

NOPE.

I've dreamt about a Elder Scrolls Game online, I got it, I'm happy.
I do not like so much solo game, even very good one, cause they are solo. So I'm really happy about ESO. Of course, it's not perfect, but it's good enough to make me dream and allow me to enjoy some good aventures with friends.

mfxdrew · June 2014

Elloa wrote: »

NOPE.

I've dreamt about a Elder Scrolls Game online, I got it, I'm happy.
I do not like so much solo game, even very good one, cause they are solo. So I'm really happy about ESO. Of course, it's not perfect, but it's good enough to make me dream and allow me to enjoy some good aventures with friends.

don't get me wrong I want an online TES game as much as anyone else who has played it but I want a good one, not a bad online one then a good single player one. if Bethesda is making a single player one they could care less about eso and its all just became about money