I didn't vote because the way I would ideally want it would be to have them be the same zones, but different quests - quests done from the POV of your own faction instead of "what if you were this faction" quests.

While i completely understand that they will probably not do this , sure , it would be nice to have other zones to get vr lvls , could not hurt to have more options.

With that said , first i would like them to add zones for vr11/12 solo players , since craglorn is for groups.

Still , if they tried to touch my vr 10 char and sent her back to 50 , you can be sure i would not even look at the reason , i would just insta unsub.

I would say remove Vr and add back normal levels, to better differentiate people.

I think it's kind of a moot question. The alternative to Vet zones would be nothing, because then we'd be waiting for them to make a bunch more maps that currently don't exist. If all we had was Craglorn, everyone would be going "there's seriously only 1 map at endgame?!"

Sure, it'd be cool to have brand new everything, but that takes a lot of time to roll out.

Ur-Quan wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Vunter wrote: »

dido9880ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think the VR Zones are fun. I like experiencing the different storylines from the other alliances. I am not sure what the problem people have with the VR Zones are to be honest.

Actually, not everyone has only one char and someone may have to repeat the quests of a faction.
And as it is now, the factions haven't any sort of uniquity and the only thing that changes at the end is the little icon you have on your head on PvP

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong please ^^

You know it really bugs me the "have to repeat the quests of a faction". What MMO EVER allowed you to roll an alt and NOT have to repeat the same crap your previous character JUST went through.

This is by far the DUMBEST argument I have heard against the current VR levels. Simply because ALL MMOs have you repeat content. At least the content here is interesting.

Roll an alt once you get to Veteran Rank to experience the content their on an alt. Sure you wont be VR12 but you get your alt. Once you experience the content you can rush through it faster your second time through.

Repeating content on alts in the same faction is to be expected. Repeating all of the same content on every single character you create, regardless of faction, is the part that people (including myself) take issue with.

That's fine but to expect to NOT have to repeat content is just dumb. This game also has alternatives to the other factions for Veteran Rank as well. They may not be great options but im quite sure more coming so you can play your alt while waiting for more changes or use your current alternates.

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Ur-Quan wrote: »

Shaun98ca2 wrote: »

Vunter wrote: »

dido9880ub17_ESO wrote: »

I think the VR Zones are fun. I like experiencing the different storylines from the other alliances. I am not sure what the problem people have with the VR Zones are to be honest.

Actually, not everyone has only one char and someone may have to repeat the quests of a faction.
And as it is now, the factions haven't any sort of uniquity and the only thing that changes at the end is the little icon you have on your head on PvP

Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong please ^^

You know it really bugs me the "have to repeat the quests of a faction". What MMO EVER allowed you to roll an alt and NOT have to repeat the same crap your previous character JUST went through.

This is by far the DUMBEST argument I have heard against the current VR levels. Simply because ALL MMOs have you repeat content. At least the content here is interesting.

Roll an alt once you get to Veteran Rank to experience the content their on an alt. Sure you wont be VR12 but you get your alt. Once you experience the content you can rush through it faster your second time through.

Repeating content on alts in the same faction is to be expected. Repeating all of the same content on every single character you create, regardless of faction, is the part that people (including myself) take issue with.

That's fine but to expect to NOT have to repeat content is just dumb. This game also has alternatives to the other factions for Veteran Rank as well. They may not be great options but im quite sure more coming so you can play your alt while waiting for more changes or use your current alternates.

I've got 16 alts that I'm playing. Believe me, I repeat a lot of content, and I'm fine with that because that's the way I've chosen to play. I also haven't hit vet level with any of them yet. When I do hit vet content with my main (currently level 42), I'm probably going to stop playing him unless there's a lot more vet content by then that's not just re-doing all of the quests of the other factions. Even when there's enough vet content for me to be able to level my characters without repeating content, and without grinding, I'll still have to repeat content from other factions if I don't want to lose out on a lot of skill points.

Ideally, in my opinion, players would have several options:

- The ability to take on infiltration missions into the other alliances, where you have to earn their trust in order to put yourself close to the alliance leader (this would require several new missions in each vet zone that are focused on your alliance, plus a change to the end of each veteran zone where you make a decision on whether to hurt that alliance, or turncoat yours and change alliances).

- The ability to level your veteran character in a plethora of new adventure zones, like Vardenfall, Western Skyrim, Southern Black Marsh, etc.

- The ability to go back to your alliance and experience a whole new challenge of missions in your home zones, now affected because of your progression as hero of Tamriel, with a world altered by your actions. Much like veteran ranked dungeons, it would also include new area's to explore and experience, maybe in the edges and borderlands of each zone.

Yes, yes, and more yes. This game is so alt-unfriendly it's unbelievable, I've never seen an MMO that discourages players so much from creating additional characters.

Granted, it's great for those people who want one and only one character, but I like to make different classes/character archetypes, and I absolutely loathe doing the same quests more than once.


Personally, Here's what I'd like to see at vet ranks:

-Experience gained from PvP in cyrodiil (kills, daily quest completions, keep capturing, resource capturing, defending, etc. etc.) increased by a huge margin. Once someone hits 50/v1, they should be able to progress through the rest of their veteran ranks solely through pvp if they choose to do so, and it should take no longer than levelling through pve.

-Additional veteran zones based on the other planes of oblivion. At v1, we've finished coldharbour with all it's dreary cold dark emo-ness. After that we should be able to progress to the more fiery realms of oblivion like we saw in TES IV: Oblivion, as well as other realms like azurah's moonshadow or hermaeus mora's realm.



Eventually I'd also like to see restructured opposing alliance zones, that basically have quests from your own faction taking place in other faction territory to simulate the ongoing war effort - basically you would be entering enemy zones with an army and doing war-related quests to assault and capture enemy territory for your alliance.

I think if the zones where different it would add value to using a character in a different faction. The way I see it now is: I start my character, I play it though the second faction, then though the third faction, after that I create a new character and stay in the faction I started in before and just use a different class.

I'd do this because I would know all the quests. Sure I could start the next character in another faction and zip right though the quests, but what would be the point?

I realize this poll isn't to call for a change to the game, but it is to express an opinion.

Don't get why anyone wouldn't want new content instead of recycled content

i expected to take the fight to the other alliances, not simply do the other alliances quests:/. though it can still be fun, the rewards are not worth it, and the difficulty does not help matters much either. I myself don't even care much for the veteran rank system itself. Id rather have lvl 50 be the max level, and "veteran zones" simply be something more for PvE focused players to do if they want, not something to do so you can be top dog in PvP, and 3 shot half the ppl you meet. I don't get why they emphasized lvl 50 so much in their advertisements, only for it to, in reality, be a joke compared to the real max rank.

Wolfshead wrote: »

Well basically every mmo you play at some point you will repeat all quest and whole end game content just take WoW for example only time it is interesting

And once you done it all do you then have to go do all the other side's stuff?

Next, you should make a poll called "would you like a higher salary? Yes/No"

I'm currently running a main (level 42) and started couple of alts (originally mules) to try different game style and different zone but since the Vet ranks came out I'm starting to wonder if I really want to waste time grinding alts if I'm going to have to do most of it again with my main at Vet level.

I don't mind exploring the same lands because it feels as though your knowledge of the country from previous travels stands you in good stead, however I really am not looking forward to the same quests without a good reason why, for example, my Bosmer would want to help people in the other factions who she's been fighting against for the previous 50 levels. It would have been nice if, as some have suggested, there is a reason to travel into those lands perhaps to spy on their battle plans etc.

Still, considering some of the storylines, the NPC's in Silvenar treat my level 42 Bosmer as though she's from outer space and never heard of the Green Lady or Bosmer lore!