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Help me out. Where's the VET fun?
Help me out ESO community. I'm seriously struggling. How, oh how does one have fun in this game while VET levelling and beyond? I'm trying real hard to stay motivated, but as my another friends drops the game and un-subs every week, I'm finding it harder and harder to battle on.
I've arduously meandered through to Vet 6 now, but I can't do it anymore. It is all just so, ridiculously boring. It's the same old grindy, slow, dull questing over and over again with no reward or even attainable goal. It's watching paint dry. I want to keep playing, I do. I *want* the game to be fun, but it's just... not. Just about every enemy I encounter of any elite rank is absurdly tough, some - like trolls - feel totally unbeatable, even when I'm 80% decked out in epics.
Cyrodill is either just an enormous zerg in which you personally have little to no impact, or endless treks across open land to complete the occasional quest. Both of these options, mind you, yield the tiniest, most insignificant of rewards or vet points.
For me personally, the prospect of the max vet rank constantly going up compounds the frustration/boredom. The idea of getting to max rank, is to get there then start collecting/creating all of the awesome gear and setting up the great build to tackle PvP/Dungeons/Crag. But with the plans to keep the Vets ranks constantly going up, there's just no reason to bother with that gearing and planning. It removes all incentive.
I know I'm not alone in these sentiments, but I also know that there must be players out there in the depths of vet-rank purgatory that have found a way to enjoy the game enough to keep going, even at 12 and beyond.
So, help a fellow ESO-bro out. Tell me the trick to enjoying this game. What are you doing that I am not doing? Where's the fun in this game? How do I mitigate the boredom while ranking up to 12, and what do I do when I get there?
I've arduously meandered through to Vet 6 now, but I can't do it anymore. It is all just so, ridiculously boring. It's the same old grindy, slow, dull questing over and over again with no reward or even attainable goal. It's watching paint dry. I want to keep playing, I do. I *want* the game to be fun, but it's just... not. Just about every enemy I encounter of any elite rank is absurdly tough, some - like trolls - feel totally unbeatable, even when I'm 80% decked out in epics.
Cyrodill is either just an enormous zerg in which you personally have little to no impact, or endless treks across open land to complete the occasional quest. Both of these options, mind you, yield the tiniest, most insignificant of rewards or vet points.
For me personally, the prospect of the max vet rank constantly going up compounds the frustration/boredom. The idea of getting to max rank, is to get there then start collecting/creating all of the awesome gear and setting up the great build to tackle PvP/Dungeons/Crag. But with the plans to keep the Vets ranks constantly going up, there's just no reason to bother with that gearing and planning. It removes all incentive.
I know I'm not alone in these sentiments, but I also know that there must be players out there in the depths of vet-rank purgatory that have found a way to enjoy the game enough to keep going, even at 12 and beyond.
So, help a fellow ESO-bro out. Tell me the trick to enjoying this game. What are you doing that I am not doing? Where's the fun in this game? How do I mitigate the boredom while ranking up to 12, and what do I do when I get there?
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Zodi53✭✭✭I feel 100% the same way as you do now, and i'm also V6. It's a shame. I love the game and I love the series but at this stage it just feels like its over. I can't find anything more fun to do anymore7 -
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✭I'm VR7 now and what i do the least of all the time i'm in game is questing in Glenumbra. Enemies are no fun to even attempt to take out. Mobs in a group of more then one is rarely beatable except if it's groups of skeevers and mudcrabs.
In fact, i'm starting to find the game severely boring. So meeting up with friends ingame and just do random stuff keeps it going, for now.
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Loco_Mofo✭✭✭✭✭My main is VR6 and parked also. Maybe one day if Zeni fix the magicka > stamina issue and the other 100 things that bug me in ESO, I'll unpark him.
Until then I'm having a blast playing UFC on the PS4.4 -
Qumulous✭✭✭This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.12
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✭This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.PC EU5 -
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✭✭✭Maotti_Nor wrote: »This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.
Casuals are just now starting to hit vet ranks. So as time goes on more people will start showing up in bet ranks making more people available for grouping and making vet ranks what they are supposed to be.6 -
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✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.
Casuals are just now starting to hit vet ranks. So as time goes on more people will start showing up in bet ranks making more people available for grouping and making vet ranks what they are supposed to be.
Yeah, and most of the casuals will stop right there because they too will see how awfully difficult things are compared to what they were used too leveling up 1-50.
The only reason i managed to get to the Daggerfall Covenant was because i had a friend to play with for most of the EP quests.
My friendlist is a good example of this. I have some who are Vet 1 and in Stonefalls and haven't been online for weeks. Coincidence?Edited by Maotti on June 20, 2014 1:48AMPC EU8 -
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✭✭✭Maotti_Nor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.
Casuals are just now starting to hit vet ranks. So as time goes on more people will start showing up in bet ranks making more people available for grouping and making vet ranks what they are supposed to be.
Yeah, and most of the casuals will stop right there because they too will see how awfully difficult things are compared to what they were used too leveling up 1-50.
The only reason i managed to get to the Daggerfall Covenant was because i had a friend to play with for most of the EP quests.
My friendlist is a good example of this. I have some who are Vet 1 and in Stonefalls and haven't been online for weeks. Coincidence?
I have friends on my list who are vet12 and still log on everyday. Some people want challenge some don't.4 -
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✭ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.
Casuals are just now starting to hit vet ranks. So as time goes on more people will start showing up in bet ranks making more people available for grouping and making vet ranks what they are supposed to be.
Yeah, and most of the casuals will stop right there because they too will see how awfully difficult things are compared to what they were used too leveling up 1-50.
The only reason i managed to get to the Daggerfall Covenant was because i had a friend to play with for most of the EP quests.
My friendlist is a good example of this. I have some who are Vet 1 and in Stonefalls and haven't been online for weeks. Coincidence?
I have friends on my list who are vet12 and still log on everyday. Some people want challenge some don't.
I want a challenge too, but being oneshot with overcharged armor is not fun, it's annoying!
So what i'm saying is they shouldn't nerf the hit points or armor on enemies. Just tone down the damage they do to me a little bit, because it's simply too much.Edited by Maotti on June 20, 2014 1:54AMPC EU1 -
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✭✭The fun in VR content is to die repeatedly to brokenly OP hit-sponge trash that also hit like a truck. Duh, L2P10 -
serenity_painted✭✭✭If the game isn't fun, don't play it. I'm not trying to flame you or anything like that.
But leveling vet levels after you've completed the main story really is a giant drag, if feels like you haveto start over from square 1 doing the same type of quests you already did, and if you don't enjoy the stories, you're gonna get really, really bored it's probably best just to stop.
I took a long break and completely changed my main leveling build,do dungeons when ever i can and only do the quests i haveto unless an interesting one pops up and i find the game pretty fun now, though it's starting to wear thin agian now that i moved on to my second alliance.1 -
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✭✭✭Maotti_Nor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »ers101284b14_ESO wrote: »Maotti_Nor wrote: »This game is not hard at all. A little challenge and people always want the easy button.
Challenging is fine, unmanageable alone is another thing. There's practically no one in the second alliance zones to help one out.
However there's many more people in my first veteran alliance zones, especially Stonefalls which is understandable.
Casuals are just now starting to hit vet ranks. So as time goes on more people will start showing up in bet ranks making more people available for grouping and making vet ranks what they are supposed to be.
Yeah, and most of the casuals will stop right there because they too will see how awfully difficult things are compared to what they were used too leveling up 1-50.
The only reason i managed to get to the Daggerfall Covenant was because i had a friend to play with for most of the EP quests.
My friendlist is a good example of this. I have some who are Vet 1 and in Stonefalls and haven't been online for weeks. Coincidence?
I have friends on my list who are vet12 and still log on everyday. Some people want challenge some don't.
I want a challenge too, but being oneshot with overcharged armor is not fun, it's annoying!
So what i'm saying is they shouldn't nerf the hit points or armor on enemies. Just tone down the damage they do to me a little bit, because it's simply too much.
Yeah and they most likely will because of so many complaints on it. It's funny because in FF14 people also complained about mobs because you could take on 3 enemies that where 5 levels higher than yours, but others say the game was too hard. Gotta hit that middle ground I guess.Edited by ers101284b14_ESO on June 20, 2014 1:59AM0 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭You can level crafting if you haven't already. Respec costs suck but you can try out a totally different build. Do vet dungeons. Go back and do regular dungeons solo for shards and skill points if you missed them. Go through and do any missed dolmens, delves, public dungeons. Join a new guild. Help noobs out. Idk, there isn't a whole lot to do if you don't want to quest.
I logged on my VR3 alt today to feed his horse, but decided to do some quests on him in Greenshade. There were lots of people around. Started doing some quests, but literally every fight I had in the quest area (some necromancers or something) ended with me being out of stamina, 60% hp or lower, and the feeling that I was getting my but kicked. Logged off after an hour and remembered why I hadn't played him since the 1.1.2 patch hit. Overbuffed trash gets tedious.
I hope they can make some VR changes pretty quick!Edited by Worstluck on June 20, 2014 2:26AMWorstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Singular✭✭✭✭You could go grind in Craglorn. Then, when you get sick of that, go back to questing for a bit. It's working for me. But I also don't log in so much anymore and am regretting my sub.War, give me war, give me war.3
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kimboh✭✭✭✭Same, I will continue to level slowly, but for now I'm going for achievements, public dungeons/world bosses/dolmens, collecting sky shards/lore books, researching traits, hunting for provisioning ingredients and rare motifs, farming mats and gold, levelling Mage/fighters guild skills and experimenting with different builds.
And playing my lute.Status: offline<l Cygnus X|VR14|Sorc l><| Romulus Prime|VR12|Temp |><| Qwoptus |lvl30|DK|><| DC|EU |>1 -
cimiraticb16_ESOSoul Shrivenndbuddrwb17_ESO wrote: »Help me out ESO community. I'm seriously struggling. How, oh how does one have fun in this game while VET levelling and beyond? I'm trying real hard to stay motivated, but as my another friends drops the game and un-subs every week, I'm finding it harder and harder to battle on.
I've arduously meandered through to Vet 6 now, but I can't do it anymore. It is all just so, ridiculously boring. It's the same old grindy, slow, dull questing over and over again with no reward or even attainable goal. It's watching paint dry. I want to keep playing, I do. I *want* the game to be fun, but it's just... not. Just about every enemy I encounter of any elite rank is absurdly tough, some - like trolls - feel totally unbeatable, even when I'm 80% decked out in epics.
Cyrodill is either just an enormous zerg in which you personally have little to no impact, or endless treks across open land to complete the occasional quest. Both of these options, mind you, yield the tiniest, most insignificant of rewards or vet points.
For me personally, the prospect of the max vet rank constantly going up compounds the frustration/boredom. The idea of getting to max rank, is to get there then start collecting/creating all of the awesome gear and setting up the great build to tackle PvP/Dungeons/Crag. But with the plans to keep the Vets ranks constantly going up, there's just no reason to bother with that gearing and planning. It removes all incentive.
I know I'm not alone in these sentiments, but I also know that there must be players out there in the depths of vet-rank purgatory that have found a way to enjoy the game enough to keep going, even at 12 and beyond.
So, help a fellow ESO-bro out. Tell me the trick to enjoying this game. What are you doing that I am not doing? Where's the fun in this game? How do I mitigate the boredom while ranking up to 12, and what do I do when I get there?
Simple answer... nothin ! Hopfully they do something in the future :>
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Prokonto✭✭✭You could go grind in Craglorn. Then, when you get sick of that, go back to questing for a bit. It's working for me. But I also don't log in so much anymore and am regretting my sub.
Grind in Craglorn is so effective way to Vr lvling. Just pushed from Vr3 to Vr5 on Kareth of Shadows in less than 3h. Its quite booring but best way.
edit: read "best" as fastest;>Edited by Prokonto on June 20, 2014 2:35AM0 -
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✭✭I believe that eventually they will right the ship. They have to. ESO Has a lot of potential so in the meantime I have resigned myself to enjoying it for what it is. A beautiful world. I've slowed down. Crafting more. Exploring more. Socializing with Guild mates and friends. Poke around here. Poke around there.
I have simply lowered my expectations. And I am enjoying the game more now. Plus there really isn't anything else that i want to try atm, so I will stick around for a while and wait to see how ZOS handles the mass exodus of players.Edited by Alphashado on June 20, 2014 2:50AM6 -
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✭✭So, help a fellow ESO-bro out. Tell me the trick to enjoying this game. What are you doing that I am not doing? Where's the fun in this game? How do I mitigate the boredom while ranking up to 12, and what do I do when I get there?
Many MMO´s give players only dungeons and raids at Max Level, while I cant speak for everyone I find that extremely boring and dull.
Therefore I am very happy that ESO isn't such a game, as I wont have fun with running one out of 5 dungeons all day to do something useful at max level.
At ESO you have the choice, you can do pvp, run dungeons or quest at max level. Personally I find that choice fair!
Just see it from the perspective of ZO, they created all those nice quest´s and story lines. It would be really sad if all that invested time is wasted when everyone MUST do dungeons past 50.
WOW, GW2, WS and SWTOR all have such a system - if you like to run dungeons only at max level I would advice that you check them out. ESO hopefully doesn't turn into a raid or die game at max level.3 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭Not sure what game you are playing @Audigy , but there is literally nothing to do at VR12 except for vet dungeons, Cyrodiil, Trials, or alts, if you have completed the quests, upgraded your gear and got the achievements you want. Those games you mentioned offer much more to do at end game, at least in my opinion. Granted, I don't play any of them anymore and I like ESO now, but there really isn't a whole lot do yet.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Nickers✭✭Using one's imagination is a good start. Getting into the story and role play will do you well. I'm V6 as well and refused to grind in craglorn with some of my mates, they are now burned out so perhaps that is why I can see the fun in just hanging about with friends, helping others and setting some personal goals...like everything in this world, it is as good as you make it.Faction:AD
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✭✭✭Not sure what game you are playing @Audigy , but there is literally nothing to do at VR12 except for vet dungeons, Cyrodiil, Trials, or alts, if you have completed the quests, upgraded your gear and got the achievements you want. Those games you mentioned offer much more to do at end game, at least in my opinion. Granted, I don't play any of them anymore and I like ESO now, but there really isn't a whole lot do yet.
Yet being the keyword here. I do agree they need more but not everyone has hit VR 12. I bet most of the player base hasn't even come close and are just now hitting VR1. They probably brought craglorn to tide over the hardcore crowd. New dungeons are coming Monday. But a lot of people (mostly casual and average players) still haven't even gotten to craglorn yet. And if they really do bring new content out every 6 weeks its probably to give hardcore players new content before they get too bored. I know I'm rambling but new content every 6 weeks is insane.0 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭@ers101284b14_ESO Yeah it's hard for me to complain really, because I am not the average player, and I happened to have a lot of free time the past few months. If this game had come out during the holidays I wouldn't even be vet rank yet (well, I would by now, but you know what I mean lol). I am very curious about what is coming in update 3 and what they are planning to make vet ranks more enjoyable for the people who aren't really liking them right now. I went through them before 1.1.2 and it was a little more balanced in terms of NPC damage.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Many MMO´s give players only dungeons and raids at Max Level, while I cant speak for everyone I find that extremely boring and dull.
Therefore I am very happy that ESO isn't such a game, as I wont have fun with running one out of 5 dungeons all day to do something useful at max level.
At ESO you have the choice, you can do pvp, run dungeons or quest at max level. Personally I find that choice fair!
Just see it from the perspective of ZO, they created all those nice quest´s and story lines. It would be really sad if all that invested time is wasted when everyone MUST do dungeons past 50.
WOW, GW2, WS and SWTOR all have such a system - if you like to run dungeons only at max level I would advice that you check them out. ESO hopefully doesn't turn into a raid or die game at max level.
Exactly my feeling as well.
Lucky enough, Zenimax long term plan for the game is just that there is NO end game. Only new content, that amazingly they keep connected to lore!
The "end" plan for ESO, is to keep creating an evolving living Tamriel that do change over time, sometimes depending on what we as players do.
An ongoing player experience that you are part of Tamriels past, present and choose your path in its future.
Why are people saying Craglorn is a grind? Do you grind dungeons, the achievements, trails or even the raid there? Is that grinding? I have yet to experience any Craglorn dungeon because I am only Vet 1, but those I will do! Not sure I would do em over and over when I have the whole Tamriels dungeons to choose from. New and changed versions too!
What I can see what Zenimax is focusing on, beside balance and stability, is high end content. Isnt there as bunch of high end stuff in both patch 1.2 and 1.3?
Patch 1.2 and 1.3 also of course includes a bunch of stuffs across the board.
And What about their focus on making vet levels more interesting by adding some sort of points, you can allocate? Kinda a lot of focus going on High end.
And everyone, no matter their level, have Cyrodiil? Ok, there are players who have done it all in Cyro. Managed to win the campagn or own the whole zone. Fair enough.
Have you all done that? I am a NOOB pvper, but got several good experiences from Cyrodiil with a big Army groups. In Cyro, I am not interested in any type of Zerg. But the big groups I got in, ALL pugs, before the big large group bug set in, had a leader, a plan. Sometimes we failed and sometimes I had the honor of contributing to our alliance taking a keep.
Cyrodiil is very well done for PvE players too. If you have not tried it, join the war. Tuesday patch would fix the group lag bug, but a guildie where there today and said it worked fine. I had to check it and Got more exp in 1 hour there, then I had all day.
And if all else fails.....you always have Cadwell.
Edited by Cogo on June 20, 2014 3:36AMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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✭✭✭@ers101284b14_ESO Yeah it's hard for me to complain really, because I am not the average player, and I happened to have a lot of free time the past few months. If this game had come out during the holidays I wouldn't even be vet rank yet (well, I would by now, but you know what I mean lol). I am very curious about what is coming in update 3 and what they are planning to make vet ranks more enjoyable for the people who aren't really liking them right now. I went through them before 1.1.2 and it was a little more balanced in terms of NPC damage.
If I remember right the patch coming Monday is going to have the dye system, new vet dungeon Crypt Heart or whatever it's called, balances to NB and Templar, more bug/ quest fixes. I believe they also said they are going to stoop nerfing everything and start just slowly tweaking classes little by little til they get it close.1 -
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✭Double post cause I am a dumb orc.Edited by Cogo on June 20, 2014 3:33AMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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✭You could go grind in Craglorn. Then, when you get sick of that, go back to questing for a bit. It's working for me. But I also don't log in so much anymore and am regretting my sub.
Grind in Craglorn is so effective way to Vr lvling. Just pushed from Vr3 to Vr5 on Kareth of Shadows in less than 3h. Its quite booring but best way.
edit: read "best" as fastest;>
Interesting comment. "Quite boring but the best way".
You know, that is the same answer I have got from several questions to people who became high level very fast.
1. Why do you use a skyshard addon/map?
2. Why do you follow "leveling guides" in ESO?
3. How the DUZE did you get to highest level so fast? (Question to an own guildie over a month ago)
All 3 questions had the same answer....
I still havn't had 1 second of boring moment in ESO. And apart from extremely frustrating unplayable lag/disconnects in Cyro, that started after some patch, because around level 30 or so (Late may, early june) I was having quite a blast in Cyrodiil!Edited by Cogo on June 20, 2014 3:46AMOghur Hatemachine, Guild leader of The Nephilim - EU Megaserver
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Guildsite: The Nephilim
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-Voltaire
"My build? Improvise, overcome and adapt!"1