Are additional VR levels coming soon?
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jbreen95_ESO✭✭Love all of these people complaining...they really don't get it....
These vet levels are to weed out all of you complainers!!!!
The higher they are, the less people like me have to deal with idiots who are used to easy mode games like wow currently is(vanilla was more legit but thats not my point).
I pvp... I want to face challenging opponents, and play along side skilled allies. If V12 was able to be hit in an afternoon there would be large sums of people who don't know how to play their character. Few would be worthy of the level and the ones that were would have no way of showing it.
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭jbreen95_ESO wrote: »Love all of these people complaining...they really don't get it....
These vet levels are to weed out all of you complainers!!!!
The higher they are, the less people like me have to deal with idiots who are used to easy mode games like wow currently is(vanilla was more legit but thats not my point).
I pvp... I want to face challenging opponents, and play along side skilled allies. If V12 was able to be hit in an afternoon there would be large sums of people who don't know how to play their character. Few would be worthy of the level and the ones that were would have no way of showing it.
You win the internet tough guy keyboard warrior award congrats pick up your grenade launcher keyboard at the door.9 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭jbreen95_ESO wrote: »Love all of these people complaining...they really don't get it....
These vet levels are to weed out all of you complainers!!!!
The higher they are, the less people like me have to deal with idiots who are used to easy mode games like wow currently is(vanilla was more legit but thats not my point).
I pvp... I want to face challenging opponents, and play along side skilled allies. If V12 was able to be hit in an afternoon there would be large sums of people who don't know how to play their character. Few would be worthy of the level and the ones that were would have no way of showing it.
You are obviously not VR12. I can't tell you how many VR12's I've seen with green/blue gear, no pvp rank, and can't really do anything because they just grinded Craglorn. FYI, you can essentially go from V1 to V12 in a weekend if you want, so your little theory doesn't really pan out....Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »gougefub17_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."
Troll post is droll.
Weak sauce, 1/10.
my post is not a troll post, it's just my honest opinion and i do hope they raise vet levels as high as possible.
Whats the difference between...
Hitting a 100hp mob with a 10 damage weapon
Hitting a 1000hp mob with a 100 damage weapon
And
Hitting a 10.000hp mob with a 1000 damage weapon
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Levels are useless
Its all about content and skins (and hopefully more morphs and skills).
Do it like Guild Wars. Introduce new content, new skins, new sets, new skill(lines) but not new levels.
A raise every 2 months and Im out for sure.
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Pinn✭✭strongoakb14a_ESO wrote: »...if the VR keeps raising then alts are less likely to be played and therefore boredom will set in much sooner IMO...
This.
I am leveling an alt now and will be less inclined to do this if the goal posts are constantly moved back. Prolly just quit rather than slog through ALL the content THEN the added content as well.2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭dennis.schmelzleb16_ESO wrote: »
A raise every 2 months and Im out for sure.
They just said in this very thread that they aren't raising the level cap with this content update. Why is this still an issue?----
Murray?3 -
Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭Well, people are concerned that they might raise the level cap in July, because the Official Statement didn't confirm or disconfirm what they would do after this month.
If they raise it in July, it would still be a raise every 2 months, since the last one was in May.
Huge difference. In the third situation, the mob's HP is OVER 9000!dennis.schmelzleb16_ESO wrote: »Whats the difference between...
Hitting a 100hp mob with a 10 damage weapon
Hitting a 1000hp mob with a 100 damage weapon
And
Hitting a 10.000hp mob with a 1000 damage weapon
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seitekisaki✭✭✭I would like more VR levels. I wouldn't care about leveling through VR again if it wasn't so time consuming. I actually like VR areas, but idk if I like how slow it is. Just a tad bit faster not too much is needed imo. Some people complain about vr10+ maybe some pub dungeons with repeatable quests for them. (idk seems bad, but eh..) Maybe more quests in Cyrodil will help them, but idc for that. I just want my night blade (nb) lvl 50. I have a dragon knight, but I like the siphoning tree on nb.Edited by seitekisaki on June 16, 2014 10:05PM0
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✭they seriously need to design better content than doing this never ending vr crap.2 -
shanersimms_ESO✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
Thank the ESO heavens!!! Another Vet cap increase before being able to finish off my gear at V12 after already wasting time and resources on my V10 set would have been the nail in the coffin for me. Can't keep up with that kind of pace.-Lord Shaszahan the Archmage, of The Septim Bloodline0 -
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✭shanersimms_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
Thank the ESO heavens!!! Another Vet cap increase before being able to finish off my gear at V12 after already wasting time and resources on my V10 set would have been the nail in the coffin for me. Can't keep up with that kind of pace.
never up your gear past blue, complete waste of money with never ending vr rising.2 -
devincutlerb14_ESOSoul ShrivenI must admit a little confusion here, so I hope someone will calmly explain it to me rather than flame me.
What's the problem with raising VR caps?
I saw someone say it would stop you from playing alts. Why?
Let's say I currently have a VR 12 main and a level 48 alt. If the VR cap were suddenly raised to 14, why couldn't I still continue to pay and enjoy my level 48 alt? Is someone holding a gun to my head and forcing me to play my main up to the cap as soon as possible?
Is the real gripe that people wait to use their purple and yellow crafting materials until they hit the level cap, with the idea that they would be remaining at that level for the foreseeable future and therefore it warranted finally using all the great crafting materials?
Or is the problem simply that people insist on having the most uber characters possible in the game and when they hit VR 12 they feel they have "won" the game and now the finish line is being moved further away?
Personally, the only legitimate gripe I can comprehend of the above is gripe #2. But even then, yellow crafting materials are common enough that I can't see getting too bent out of shape over it. A yellow VR 12 item with a legendary enchantment is still going to be pretty damned good at VR 14.
But still, I would be interested if I missed any reasons to oppose increasing the cap.3 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭The issues with always raising the vr level are that for new people to want to play the game it just keeps putting them further and further from their friends they want to play with. Say I go and recruit some friends and they start the grind to v12 so we can do trials by the time they hit 12 I'm 15 then by the time they hit 15 I'm 18 etc. Also for a new person starting off that leaves an extreme amount of leveling before you get to cap. Some people are fine with always leveling but a lot of people want to get to cap and do content with friends for a while then when cap is raised after 6 months or so you can level together and do the new content. People are far less likely to level alts if the finish line is always moving. Most MMO people want to have at least one character at level cap and play the other characters when not raiding or playing their main. If you have to level every two months it begins to feel like there is no point in hitting the cap an people lose interest.1
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✭✭✭✭In reality Craglorn created a lot more V12s than there would have been V10s if it had never released.V16 Uriel Stormblessed EP Magicka Templar(main)
V16 Derelict Vagabond EP Stamina DK
V16 Redacted Ep Stam Sorc
V16 Insolent EP Magicka Sorc(retired)
V16 Jed I Nyte EP Stamina NB(retired)3 -
Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »Lord i hope not. vet lvls were the worst mmo idea ever.
Veteran Ranks are actually a great idea. But how they handled it is another story, a sad one really. I've made a topic for Veteran Rank the way it should've been done, but not many seem to be interested in commenting, most just keep complaining and complaining on other "hate VR topics". Players feedback is even more disappointing than the VR.
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Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »Lord i hope not. vet lvls were the worst mmo idea ever.
Veteran Ranks are actually a great idea. But how they handled it is another story, a sad one really. I've made a topic for Veteran Rank the way it should've been done, but not many seem to be interested in commenting, most just keep complaining and complaining on other "hate VR topics". Players feedback is even more disappointing than the VR.
Complaining is player feedback, whether it's constructive or not. Not everyone wants to be an armchair developer. People just know that they aren't having fun or are getting frustrated with whatever and complain about it. I personally don't know how to fix most of the things with this game, but that doesn't mean any feedback I provide without a solution is just complaining.Worstluck - Breton Nightblade "Some of us refused to bow. We knew the old ways would lead us back to having a kingdom of our own."
―Madanach
Elfluck - Dunmer Dragonknight "When I will walk the earth again, the Faithful among you shall receive your reward: to be set above all other mortals forever. As for the rest: the weak shall be winnowed: the timid shall be cast down: the mighty shall tremble at my feet and pray for pardon."
―Mehrunes Dagon
Deadluck -Imperial Templar "Men are but flesh and blood. They know their doom, but not the hour"
―Uriel Septim
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✭✭✭if it was up to me, I would just take veteran ranks out of the game, and make lvl 50 the max lvl. then over time add 10 more lvls, then another 10(like world of warcraft) I would do this VERY slowly, not every update I do. but that's just me, and I am no expert.1 -
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
who-friggin-rray!
I was getting worried when I saw my first VR10-14 glyph and though, oh great just another level for everyone to race towards.
Edited by kijima on June 18, 2014 3:26AMBeen here since Feb 2014 - You'd think I'd be half reasonable at this game by now...0 -
Maleficus✭✭✭The level cap needs to stop at some point, otherwise it just undoes what people spend weeks/months working on... More challenging content, dungeons and more gear upgrades.. NOT MORE LEVELS1 -
Bloodfang✭✭✭✭✭jeradlub17_ESO wrote: »Lord i hope not. vet lvls were the worst mmo idea ever.
Veteran Ranks are actually a great idea. But how they handled it is another story, a sad one really. I've made a topic for Veteran Rank the way it should've been done, but not many seem to be interested in commenting, most just keep complaining and complaining on other "hate VR topics". Players feedback is even more disappointing than the VR.
Complaining is player feedback, whether it's constructive or not. Not everyone wants to be an armchair developer. People just know that they aren't having fun or are getting frustrated with whatever and complain about it. I personally don't know how to fix most of the things with this game, but that doesn't mean any feedback I provide without a solution is just complaining.
Complaining is not a feedback, and it's certainly nothing constructive. Saying - oh my god VR is too hard, nerf it nerf it - just can't be taken seriously.
If you have the time to complain about something, you should have the time to suggest how it's supposed to work in your book too (ideas are known for changing world to a better place!).
Just because something is too hard for you, doesn't mean it's too hard for everyone. There were hundreds of topics about the same damn thing, hundreds of explanations why not all want the same thing, and yet those people just keep on complaining, you can't reason with such people.
I never said a feedback you provide should offer a solution too, it's great if you come up with someting, but it's not necessarily. The problem with many on this forum is, they can't keep anything on the reasonable civil level. They rather complain / criticize because that is all they are capable of doing, they don't want a solution. They live to criticize. Nothing you do will ever please them.
Edited by Bloodfang on June 18, 2014 3:38AM1 -
jbreen95_ESO✭✭
I am v12... u can message me, "Poisoner"You are obviously not VR12.
This is correct! and you prove my point. if the level cap was v10 there would be EVEN MORE unskilled players that I need to deal with. so when they raise it to 14(which they arnt even doing as soon as you think) I can again...deal with less idiots and it affects me positively.I can't tell you how many VR12's I've seen with green/blue gear, no pvp rank, and can't really do anything because they just grinded Craglorn.
false. if it was SO EASY then why are all these people complaining that its too hard?FYI, you can essentially go from V1 to V12 in a weekend if you want, so your little theory doesn't really pan out....Edited by jbreen95_ESO on June 18, 2014 10:10PM1 -
Nylan✭✭Sounds like a lot of you don't really want to play a MMO, maybe a FPS is more in line with what you want?1
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Aoifesan✭✭✭nerevarine1138 wrote: »dennis.schmelzleb16_ESO wrote: »
A raise every 2 months and Im out for sure.
They just said in this very thread that they aren't raising the level cap with this content update. Why is this still an issue?
TLDNR would be why1 -
Looking at the video- a Sorc tank and DK in light armor with a staff? That explains a lot.0
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭jbreen95_ESO wrote: »This is correct! and you prove my point. if the level cap was v10 there would be EVEN MORE unskilled players that I need to deal with. so when they raise it to 14(which they arnt even doing as soon as you think) I can again...deal with less idiots and it affects me positively.
Actually no. VR12 came with craglorn which was the only thing that allowed people to easily grind thorugh all VR. When you actually had to do the VR zones it took actually knowing how to play your character to get to V10. So when the cap was V10 the people that were V10 were a lot more skilled. Now with the addition of VR ranks they added ways to grind it out and that is what allowed for so many V12's that never actually played a Vet level that was not a group grind.
You can pretty much put money on the fact that with more VR levels there will be more and easier grinds to reach them. They lost so many customers that hit Vet levels and it was just to much for them that there is no way they are going to make people actually go through vet levels the hard way anymore. It is just business you can't lose that many customers to stick with your game being challenging.0 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭ConquerorDromtar wrote: »Looking at the video- a Sorc tank and DK in light armor with a staff? That explains a lot.
Notice they also added in a light armor Nightblade with a Resto staff as a healer just so they could prove a NB could do it? LOLEdited by kitsinni on June 19, 2014 3:47PM1 -
jbreen95_ESO✭✭jbreen95_ESO wrote: »This is correct! and you prove my point. if the level cap was v10 there would be EVEN MORE unskilled players that I need to deal with. so when they raise it to 14(which they arnt even doing as soon as you think) I can again...deal with less idiots and it affects me positively.
Actually no. VR12 came with craglorn which was the only thing that allowed people to easily grind thorugh all VR. When you actually had to do the VR zones it took actually knowing how to play your character to get to V10. So when the cap was V10 the people that were V10 were a lot more skilled. Now with the addition of VR ranks they added ways to grind it out and that is what allowed for so many V12's that never actually played a Vet level that was not a group grind.
You can pretty much put money on the fact that with more VR levels there will be more and easier grinds to reach them. They lost so many customers that hit Vet levels and it was just to much for them that there is no way they are going to make people actually go through vet levels the hard way anymore. It is just business you can't lose that many customers to stick with your game being challenging.
so dont *** about "cap", *** about what you are actually bitching about... difficulty
and you absolutely cannot "put money on" each level increase being exactly the same and easy, thats *** dudeEdited by jbreen95_ESO on June 25, 2014 3:43AM0