Are additional VR levels coming soon?
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From the patch notes "The Elder Scrolls Online v1.1.5 features additional quest fixes, and is one of our last incremental patches before our second game content update."
When you say second game content update I really hope you don't mean more VR levels already like the last one. You already have a significant portion of the population quitting or leveling alts at lower VR ranks and craglorn is a ghost town. It seems that with glyphs going to V14 that the plan is to push the VR ranks up soon. I honeslty think this will be the nail in the coffen for the game. People are already frustrated with the current grind it would be much wiser to spend time fixing what is already there and adding incentives to do content than to make the grind longer.
When you say second game content update I really hope you don't mean more VR levels already like the last one. You already have a significant portion of the population quitting or leveling alts at lower VR ranks and craglorn is a ghost town. It seems that with glyphs going to V14 that the plan is to push the VR ranks up soon. I honeslty think this will be the nail in the coffen for the game. People are already frustrated with the current grind it would be much wiser to spend time fixing what is already there and adding incentives to do content than to make the grind longer.
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jeradlub17_ESO✭✭✭Lord i hope not. vet lvls were the worst mmo idea ever.- Dallamar, Sorc, EP
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Lukee✭✭Almost certainly, but the next increase probably won't be for at least a few months (I Hope)0 -
Rioht✭✭✭Craglorn is a ghost Town? Have you been to the anomolies, burial or towers? There is ways a ton of people/groups at those locations. That being said, I agree there should not be any additional VR levels, hopefully not for ankther new months0
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kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭With population decreasing so quickly how are you supposed to talk new people in to playing the game when the finish line is contantly moving? Hey join this game and play with me .. never?? By the time you are VR10 the game changed to VR12 by the time you hit that I'll be VR14 and we will never play together want to join?
Honeslty with only four classes people are going to be hitting the point where they have all four leveled up already and no way to play with friends unless you want to reroll a class you have already played or play in another faction. Neither choice is very appealing since we have already played through the other factions with VR quests and can easily switch to any other role with our current characters.3 -
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✭The next content update patch next week is not the same as craglorn, it's just a verteran dungeon being added along with class fixes. They will be adding more veteran levels most likely, but not with this one. They would've said so otherwise.☠ Is it better to out-monster the monster or to be quietly devoured? ☠
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Spiritreaver_ESO✭✭✭From the patch notes "The Elder Scrolls Online v1.1.5 features additional quest fixes, and is one of our last incremental patches before our second game content update."
When you say second game content update I really hope you don't mean more VR levels already like the last one. You already have a significant portion of the population quitting or leveling alts at lower VR ranks and craglorn is a ghost town. It seems that with glyphs going to V14 that the plan is to push the VR ranks up soon. I honeslty think this will be the nail in the coffen for the game. People are already frustrated with the current grind it would be much wiser to spend time fixing what is already there and adding incentives to do content than to make the grind longer.
Unless ZOS is really hoping for a real rage-storm, 1.2 is gonna be more fixes. Most notably the comprehensive Nightblade update that they have been putting off for way too long.0 -
Worstluck✭✭✭✭✭Yes. VR will probably increase to 14 next patch, which is supposed to hit June 23rd. You will notice in below video, monsters and the players are VR13, and you might have noticed that monumental glyphs are for VR10-14. Enjoy your veteran ranks! They are a blast!
See here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ADsxN2GfI_w
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✭✭✭✭✭i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."8 -
LariahHunding✭✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."
Troll post is droll.
Weak sauce, 1/10.
"Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."
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If Zenimax keeps increasing the VR level cap every 2 months they can definitely expect to loose customers. There is a reason other MMOs don't raise the level cap on a whim. There is just enough differences between the classes now to give people the desire to try the other classes, if the VR keeps raising then alts are less likely to be played and therefore boredom will set in much sooner IMO. The model of lets raise the level cap by 2, then throw in a new zone to go with it just doesn't work, especially when you design the new zone to be accessible by anyone VR1+.
Also if Veteran Ranks continue to only open access to new gear only, but no skill points, attribute points or skills even the most die hard Veterans will get bored fast and move on.2 -
kitsinni✭✭✭✭✭Well that pretty much eliminates the chance of getting any of the people I played with that left back
There might have been a chance if they knew all they had to do was get to V12 and there was content to be played but at this point they know by the time they hit V12 they will need to get V15 and by the time they can get to V15 there will be V18 .. the never ending treadmill of grind. 3 -
Electus✭✭✭strongoakb14a_ESO wrote: »If Zenimax keeps increasing the VR level cap every 2 months they can definitely expect to loose customers. There is a reason other MMOs don't raise the level cap on a whim. There is just enough differences between the classes now to give people the desire to try the other classes, if the VR keeps raising then alts are less likely to be played and therefore boredom will set in much sooner IMO. The model of lets raise the level cap by 2, then throw in a new zone to go with it just doesn't work, especially when you design the new zone to be accessible by anyone VR1+.
Also if Veteran Ranks continue to only open access to new gear only, but no skill points, attribute points or skills even the most die hard Veterans will get bored fast and move on.
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LariahHunding✭✭✭✭How can a company be this damn tone-deafed. Of all the topics on this forum, the hatred of the VR content and the leveling by far as the most consensus. Not everybody hates, but is rare for some to love it, or even admit that it is fun."Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."
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✭✭✭✭✭gougefub17_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."
Troll post is droll.
Weak sauce, 1/10.
my post is not a troll post, it's just my honest opinion and i do hope they raise vet levels as high as possible.
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ZOS_GinaBrunoCommunity ManagerWe can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.32 -
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✭✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »gougefub17_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."
Troll post is droll.
Weak sauce, 1/10.
my post is not a troll post, it's just my honest opinion and i do hope they raise vet levels as high as possible.
I prefer a level grind over a gear grind. But maybe i am strange.2 -
Aeradon✭✭✭✭✭Crypt of Hearts is targeted to VR12. So yes.
http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/discussion/106452/pts-patch-notes-v1-2-0/p1People keep telling me they're gonna buy me an ale. They never do.
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Rammi✭✭✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
Thank god!!
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
Good to hear.
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
If you want to make us feel better, say "we're not planning to raise it anytime soon." I think it's clear that most players want VR12 to be the cap for quite a while, with additional progression being horizontal, cosmetic and otherwise less onerous.
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LariahHunding✭✭✭✭Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »gougefub17_ESO wrote: »Hlaren_shortsheath wrote: »i hope they DO make vet level 14 and 15 and vet 20 and all the way up to vet level 100 telvanni
im all for new content higher vet levels and darkbrotherhood, thieves guild!
i say it again "i do hope they raise vet levels."
Troll post is droll.
Weak sauce, 1/10.
my post is not a troll post, it's just my honest opinion and i do hope they raise vet levels as high as possible.
Get yourself a new keyboard where the shift key works, less likely to thought a troll.
I rather have horizontal expansion than more vertical."Give a man a sweet roll, he only has one to steal. Give him a sweet roll recipe, he have bunches to steal."
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✭ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
well not for but with it?
Edited by Tankqull on June 16, 2014 4:04PMspelling and grammar errors are free to be abused
Sallington wrote: »Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"0 -
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✭It isn't that vet levels are "bad" it is that the game changes into a total dredge with the "rewards" spread out really few and far between and advancing your character is all of a sudden really painstaking.
Vet Zones have a lot that can just kill you in light attacks even when 2 VR levels ahead of the zone. Unlike normal zones there is no real sense of advancement, because Skill Point gains are nearly non-existent. Dungeons aren't very rewarding and almost every mob in a Solo Dungeon can kill you and will take you a Mad Max effort to get the skyshard.
If you are lucky you can solo the boss but if not the boss will have about 5 trash in all kite distances. If you are lucky you will occasionally find another player stuck on something you are. The big problem is that all of the rewards are spread out far enough that you don't really feel like your character is getting stronger.
The boredom of 1-5 ability bar catches up with you big time. For all the abilities you have you are very limited on what you can actually use. If I want to be a conjurer sorcerer, I have to put 2 pets on both bars. Instead of "10 slots" like apologists claim, I now have 6 slots left for actual abilities but only 3 on each bar.
Of all the abilities I have available in my build, many of them will never actually see play because I can't justify slotting Rune Prison when I need Clannefar, Twilight, Combat Prayer, Mutagen, Empowered Ward on one bar, Clannefar, Twilight, Critical Surge, Impulse, Daedric Mines on the other bar.
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Heh, yes you're correct. It's Mondaytankqullb16_ESO wrote: »ZOS_GinaBruno wrote: »We can confirm that we will not be raising the Veteran Rank level for our next content update.
well not for but with it?
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Aeratus✭✭✭✭✭Good to hear that the level cap is not being raised at least for another month.
Most of the average players who are playing at their pace would be disheartened to see the level cap raised again so soon. Raising the level cap should not be used to appease the small percentage of players who are level rushers and exploiters, who will never be appeased for more than 3 days anyways.2 -
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Since the nerfbat destroyed the Crystals there are a LOT fewer people doing that content now than before.Craglorn is a ghost Town? Have you been to the anomolies, burial or towers? There is ways a ton of people/groups at those locations. That being said, I agree there should not be any additional VR levels, hopefully not for ankther new months
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Raash✭✭✭✭Halleluja! Please raise the vet lvls (again!) and make my ESO experience complete! Do I need to mention I fairly receantly grinded hell and bought mats and enchants for hundred of thousands of gold and crafted legendary armor? I dont? Ok good. so please take whoever is making those mad ideas and put him/her in a 5 mile deep hole and put worlds total amount of metal on top and never speak about it again! Amen2