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Begging for Just This One NightBlade Fix

Brizz
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Dark Cloak.

I understand that the game needs a lot of love with fixes and bugs to where you want to pile it all into one large patch.

I love my NightBlade, and I love this game. Please, I beg you, hotfix Dark Cloak to where it is reliable in pvp, and I will continue to play this game while you work on all of the other abilities.

Dark Cloak is our Bolt Escape, it is our Dragon Blood... Without it we are nothing.
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  • tanthil
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    Dear devs,

    People are now begging.

    That is all
  • Brizz
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    After a night of pvping and yelling at my computer, I've decided that I'm going to post on this forum every time that this ability fails and gets me killed starting with:

    The 10 times I've found ANY kind of sorcerer that casts anything on me while trying to vanish.

    DEAD
    Edited by Brizz on May 21, 2014 11:43AM
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  • Brizz
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    DK charging me over and over, Dark Cloak fail 3 times.

    DEAD.
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  • vyndral13preub18_ESO
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    Id be surprised if it ever gets fixed. I take that back. I know a whole lot has changed over the years, but i do know WoW spent for ever trying to fix their vanish type ability and never could. The latency in pvp always made it impossible for the game to correctly stack damage. So a spell/skill fired before you poofed, that should of hit you, didn't until after the poof pulling you from stealth. So you were constantly being pulled out of stealth after poofing.

    They eventually made the ability grant 1 second of complete immunity to prevent the take damage, break stealth part of the problem.

    Anyway that was years ago, but it sounds like the exact same problem. Maybe we have a better fix now.
    Edited by vyndral13preub18_ESO on May 21, 2014 12:12PM
  • siuolly
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    Yes... please fix Dark Cloak asap.. this ability gets me kill instead of saving my butt.
  • Gisgo
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    +1 many things to fix but this is crucial, its frustrating to play with our most used skill being broken.
    Edited by Gisgo on May 21, 2014 12:21PM
  • Brizz
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    Another sorcerer using Mages' Fury while I'm at 90% life and somehow it causes Dark Cloak to completely fail. Seems if a sorc is around I shouldn't even try to use Dark Cloak, as Daedric curse breaks it as well.

    DEAD.
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    Brizz The Elder Dragon - v14 EP Dragon Knight
    Brizz - v12 DC Nightblade <Former Emperor - Celarus NA>
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  • Brizz
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    3 enemies chasing me, 1 vanish successful! (omg), 2nd vanish fails, venom arrow spam.

    DEAD.
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    Brizz The Elder Dragon - v14 EP Dragon Knight
    Brizz - v12 DC Nightblade <Former Emperor - Celarus NA>
    Brizeer - v4 Stamina Sorcerer - Prophet of Zazeer-Destroyer of Buff Severs and Eater of Sweet Rolls-
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  • frwinters_ESO
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    They are aware of NB issues and some of the issues will be fixed in the next patch.
  • Aett_Thorn
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    Brizz wrote: »
    Another sorcerer using Mages' Fury while I'm at 90% life and somehow it causes Dark Cloak to completely fail. Seems if a sorc is around I shouldn't even try to use Dark Cloak, as Daedric curse breaks it as well.

    DEAD.

    Are these two abilities somehow counting as DoTs, and that is why they are preventing it from working?
  • Kewljag_66_ESO
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    Brizz wrote: »
    DK charging me over and over, Dark Cloak fail 3 times.

    DEAD.

    WHen they charge you block it, instead of wasting all your magika on dark cloak use surprise attack followed by flurry, use this combo and you will be able to kill DKs of equal level / gear. Most Nbs i know dont even use dark cloak, the magika is better used for damage
    Edited by Kewljag_66_ESO on May 21, 2014 6:46PM
  • Doomraven
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    Forgive my ignorance, but what is broken about Dark Cloak? I don't play NB (yet)
  • Aoifesan
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    Doomraven wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorance, but what is broken about Dark Cloak? I don't play NB (yet)

    1)It will take mana and not make you vanish. 2) It will allow you to vanish, but will immediately reappear you for doing damage with a DoT (this shouldn't be the case the vanish only lasts for 2.9 secs anyway) 3) As a result of either of the above occurring or in conjunction with them, it will not grant the 100% crit for your next attack that it is supposed to.
  • methjester
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    They are aware of NB issues and some of the issues will be fixed in the next patch.

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!

    I guess the two months it took them to get to this patch (I still won't believe it til it drops) wasn't enough time. But the NEXT PATCH!!!
  • Doomraven
    Doomraven
    Aoifesan wrote: »
    Doomraven wrote: »
    Forgive my ignorance, but what is broken about Dark Cloak? I don't play NB (yet)

    1)It will take mana and not make you vanish. 2) It will allow you to vanish, but will immediately reappear you for doing damage with a DoT (this shouldn't be the case the vanish only lasts for 2.9 secs anyway) 3) As a result of either of the above occurring or in conjunction with them, it will not grant the 100% crit for your next attack that it is supposed to.

    Damn, that's rough. I hope they fix that soon for you guys.
  • jdandrews108b14_ESO
    methjester wrote: »
    They are aware of NB issues and some of the issues will be fixed in the next patch.

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!

    I guess the two months it took them to get to this patch (I still won't believe it til it drops) wasn't enough time. But the NEXT PATCH!!!

    I just checked over the notes on fixes for patch 1.1 and nothing is mentioned about Dark Cloak.
    Saw they got the useless Potion Effectiveness increase to work correctly though...sigh
  • methjester
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    methjester wrote: »
    They are aware of NB issues and some of the issues will be fixed in the next patch.

    HA HA HA HA HA!!!

    I guess the two months it took them to get to this patch (I still won't believe it til it drops) wasn't enough time. But the NEXT PATCH!!!

    I just checked over the notes on fixes for patch 1.1 and nothing is mentioned about Dark Cloak.
    Saw they got the useless Potion Effectiveness increase to work correctly though...sigh

    They're withholding this patch's notes for whatever reason but... They assure us all of our Nightblade woes will be addressed in the NEXT PATCH!!
  • Liquid_Time
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    @methjester
    I hope so :cry:
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  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
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    Community Manager
    Dark Cloak is on our radar, and one of the Nightblade abilities we're working on fixing. Any additional details you all can provide would be helpful. We understand what the issues are from your posts, but we could use your help tracking down which DoT abilities are not being removed when Dark Cloak is activated (it does not seem to be a global issue.)
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  • Liquid_Time
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom‌
    Well I will speak for many.. Thank you for responding and as for your requested information.. I am not sure if they are listed in any previous posts or not.. I may go dig a little and see.
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  • NordJitsu
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    I'll get a guild group together tonight and we'll go through and test all the dots we can think of and post a video.
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  • Liquid_Time
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    @NordJitsu‌
    Dedication my man. Dedication.
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  • ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    ZOS_JessicaFolsom
    Community Manager
    NordJitsu wrote: »
    I'll get a guild group together tonight and we'll go through and test all the dots we can think of and post a video.

    That's fantastic. Thank you!
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  • joshisanonymous
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    Dark Cloak is on our radar, and one of the Nightblade abilities we're working on fixing. Any additional details you all can provide would be helpful. We understand what the issues are from your posts, but we could use your help tracking down which DoT abilities are not being removed when Dark Cloak is activated (it does not seem to be a global issue.)

    Does this mean you're only working on the portion of Dark Cloak that removes DoTs? I didn't think that was really the issue.
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  • Attorneyatlawl
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    Dark Cloak is on our radar, and one of the Nightblade abilities we're working on fixing. Any additional details you all can provide would be helpful. We understand what the issues are from your posts, but we could use your help tracking down which DoT abilities are not being removed when Dark Cloak is activated (it does not seem to be a global issue.)

    Does this mean you're only working on the portion of Dark Cloak that removes DoTs? I didn't think that was really the issue.

    There are two issues: A.) Some dots/bleeds don't get removed, and B.) If you have dots/bleeds active on an enemy target, some (not all, but just some) of them if they tick will pop you out of your own dark cloak.
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  • joshisanonymous
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    There are two issues: A.) Some dots/bleeds don't get removed, and B.) If you have dots/bleeds active on an enemy target, some (not all, but just some) of them if they tick will pop you out of your own dark cloak.

    For A: Some people seem to be complaining that their cloak drops when there aren't any DoTs being applied. For instance, Brizz only mentions being charged. I also read in another thread someone complaining about how just an AoE would knock them out of stealth. So are these people mistaken about how it's supposed to work?

    For B: I was under the impression that having a DoT on your enemy kicked you out of your cloak by design, but you seem to be suggesting this is actually just a bug. I guess I'm still pretty confused about what the issues are.
    Edited by joshisanonymous on May 21, 2014 11:12PM
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  • Brizz
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    Dark Cloak is on our radar, and one of the Nightblade abilities we're working on fixing. Any additional details you all can provide would be helpful. We understand what the issues are from your posts, but we could use your help tracking down which DoT abilities are not being removed when Dark Cloak is activated (it does not seem to be a global issue.)

    *sigh of relief* Thank you!

    I believe that the main issue with this ability failing is projectiles and charges. If a projectile is in the air, or if an enemy has started a charge, it will break the vanish nearly every time. (on a game with hundreds of players in one campaign, this is VERY often)

    It may be useful to add the roll dodge mechanic to Dark cloak (projectiles will "miss" as well as charges) or possibly give a short duration immunity (similar to Ball of Lightning)

    Again, thank you for replying and acknowledging our concerns, it goes a LONG way.

    -Brizz :smile:
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  • NordJitsu
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    Well any sort of damage will pull you out. I'm pretty sure that's by design.

    But it should be removing enemy DoTs and apparently sometimes isn't.

    As to whether your OWN DoTs are supposed to be pulling you out, I'm not sure. But I'll try to get that documented as well.

    No promises on how quick I can get this up though. Sometimes getting people organized is like wrangling stray cats.
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  • Brizz
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    It is also worth noting (not sure if this is intended) that weapon swapping even with Dark Cloak on both bars - pulls you out as well.
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  • Selodaoc
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    Dark Cloak is useless in PvP. 1) Everyone just spams AoE in your general area. EVERYTHING breaks stealt. dots, cc, aoe. Even your own dots break stealth. 2) Everyone and their dogs use magelight or other stealth detection, then its 1 again. NB as a class should have no movement penalty in hidden/stealth
    Edited by Selodaoc on May 22, 2014 12:55AM
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